Good news! 50 Cent to Quit if Outsold by Kanye West!
09-18-07, 01:59 AM
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Originally Posted by cungar
You have to give Kanye West credit for the mere fact he didn't invent some stupid rap name for himself.
09-18-07, 06:53 AM
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What a lame publicity stunt. What can you expect from someone who built their career on being shot multiple times? Getting shot again would have been so 2005.
Musician's play instruments. I don't see any musicians being discussed in this thread.
Originally Posted by Ronnie Dobbs
you can't really quit being a musician.
They ARE musicians.
09-18-07, 03:48 PM
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Well, it's started!
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070918/en_nm/dc_6
If this is indeed because he came in 2nd, then he's a poor sport and very ungrateful to his fans.
Chris
50 Cent scraps appearances
1 hour, 26 minutes ago
LONDON (Billboard) - Just hours after losing out to rival Kanye West on the U.K. albums chart, rapper 50 Cent has shelved a string of European appearances.
"50 Cent is very sad to confirm that due to a last minute, unforeseen and unanticipated change in his schedule, he will have to postpone his European promotion trip from September 18-25," his Interscope Records label said in a statement.
Among the events he will miss are the Music of Black Origin Awards and the Live Music Awards, both in London.
The competition between both rappers ratcheted up a gear when 50 Cent -- whose real name is Curtis Jackson -- claimed in the press that he would retire from making solo albums if West won the sales battle.
West's "Graduation" (Roc-A-Fella) bowed at No. 1 on the latest Official U.K. Albums Chart, published Monday, ahead of 50 Cent's No. 2 "Curtis." Initial data in the United States also showed him trailing West; official sales will be published Wednesday.
Reuters/Billboard
1 hour, 26 minutes ago
LONDON (Billboard) - Just hours after losing out to rival Kanye West on the U.K. albums chart, rapper 50 Cent has shelved a string of European appearances.
"50 Cent is very sad to confirm that due to a last minute, unforeseen and unanticipated change in his schedule, he will have to postpone his European promotion trip from September 18-25," his Interscope Records label said in a statement.
Among the events he will miss are the Music of Black Origin Awards and the Live Music Awards, both in London.
The competition between both rappers ratcheted up a gear when 50 Cent -- whose real name is Curtis Jackson -- claimed in the press that he would retire from making solo albums if West won the sales battle.
West's "Graduation" (Roc-A-Fella) bowed at No. 1 on the latest Official U.K. Albums Chart, published Monday, ahead of 50 Cent's No. 2 "Curtis." Initial data in the United States also showed him trailing West; official sales will be published Wednesday.
Reuters/Billboard
If this is indeed because he came in 2nd, then he's a poor sport and very ungrateful to his fans.
Chris
09-19-07, 09:10 AM
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Kanye West bests 50 Cent in album sales
NEW YORK - Just hours after he was officially crowned the victor in his much-hyped sales battle with 50 Cent, Kanye West turned up at GQ's 50th anniversary party as the featured performer.
But the evening was more like a coronation for West, whose "Graduation" widely outsold 50 Cent's "Curtis" in first week sales, according to Nielsen SoundScan: 957,000 copies to 691,000 copies.
"To be a champion, you've got to take out a champion," West declared Tuesday night, as an all-star crowd including Jay-Z, Beyonce and Diddy cheered him on. Moments later, he called for his "theme music," then launched into a performance of his song "Good Life."
Things couldn't be much better for West, who gave the struggling music industry its best debut of the year with "Graduation," besting the year's previous first-week champ, Linkin Park, which sold 623,000 of "Minutes to Midnight" when it debuted in May.
"It feels overwhelming," West told The Associated Press earlier in the day. "Everyone is coming up to me and telling me how proud they are of me."
Though selling almost 700,000 copies in the first week is a sterling achievement, it was still a considerable letdown for 50 Cent. His last album, 2005's "The Massacre," sold 1.1 million in its first week. In fact, West's "Graduation" is the only other album to come close to that figure since.
Last month, 50 didn't think of West as much of a competitor: "It's great marketing on Def Jam's part, by putting us out there at the same time and make like we can actually be compared on some level," he told the AP. In another interview, he said he would retire if West outsold him.
Fifty, who is planning a world tour for his album, was conciliatory in defeat. In a statement to the AP, which didn't address whether he planned to make good on his vow to retire, he said: "I am very excited to have participated in one of the biggest album release weeks in the last two years. Collectively, we have sold hundreds of thousands of units in our debut week. This marks a great moment for hip-hop music, one that will go down in history."
Indeed, Billboard.com reported that the top four-selling albums, including Kenny Chesney's "Just Who I Am: Poets & Pirates," and "High School Musical 2," sold 2.2 million copies, more than the top 200 albums had sold in the previous week combined.
But while West is enjoying a No. 2 position on the charts with his hit "Stronger," 50 has struggled to connect with radio. None of his songs has matched past smashes like "In Da Club"; even his single "Ayo Technology," featuring Justin Timberlake and Timbaland, is languishing at No. 19.
50's album was originally scheduled to be released in June on Interscope Records, a division of Universal Music Group, but was pushed back to Sept. 11. Soon after, Kanye West, whose album was supposed to come out sometime in late summer, pushed his date to Sept. 11 as well.
West said it was his idea to go directly against 50.
"I was the underdog because I sold less records in the past, so it was a win-win for me," he said. "If I lost, everyone would be happy that I even went up against him."
It ended up the music industry version of Ali-Frazier, with an avalanche of pre-fight hype to match. 50 routinely trash-talked West, but it seemed to be in good fun: The pair made several appearances together, including on a recent cover of Rolling Stone. Both admitted the battle was a great marketing tool.
"The rivalry helped both of them," said Jay-Z, president of West's label Def Jam — also a division of Universal Music Group. "It was definitely one of those moments in the game that was exciting, everybody could pick a side and weigh in on and have an opinion ... it garnered a lot of attention."
West said the quality of his music was the key reason he prevailed: "I think my music is really inspirational and I really made it for the people. I really understood that in this Internet age people are their own superstars ... the best bet that we had was to make a soundtrack to their own lives."
He said he was especially touched that he had such a groundswell of support given some of the negative media attention he's gotten of late; namely, his meltdown at the MTV Video Music Awards after being shut out (though he poked fun at himself during Sunday's Emmy Awards).
"With all the negativity that the press tries to put on me, this perception that they try to create of me being a really bad person — for so many fans to go out and say, 'We still want to buy Kanye's album,' means a lot to me," he said. "This is a really pivotal moment for me emotionally."
Jay-Z, who is featured on a new 50 Cent remix of his hit "I Get Money," said this setback could actually benefit 50 in the long run.
"The worst thing about success is it makes you complacent. I think when you face any type of adversity it makes you dig deep ... everyone goes through it, all the greats go through it," he said. "In his music, he hadn't gone through any type of adversity. ... he'll come back and make great music."
NEW YORK - Just hours after he was officially crowned the victor in his much-hyped sales battle with 50 Cent, Kanye West turned up at GQ's 50th anniversary party as the featured performer.
But the evening was more like a coronation for West, whose "Graduation" widely outsold 50 Cent's "Curtis" in first week sales, according to Nielsen SoundScan: 957,000 copies to 691,000 copies.
"To be a champion, you've got to take out a champion," West declared Tuesday night, as an all-star crowd including Jay-Z, Beyonce and Diddy cheered him on. Moments later, he called for his "theme music," then launched into a performance of his song "Good Life."
Things couldn't be much better for West, who gave the struggling music industry its best debut of the year with "Graduation," besting the year's previous first-week champ, Linkin Park, which sold 623,000 of "Minutes to Midnight" when it debuted in May.
"It feels overwhelming," West told The Associated Press earlier in the day. "Everyone is coming up to me and telling me how proud they are of me."
Though selling almost 700,000 copies in the first week is a sterling achievement, it was still a considerable letdown for 50 Cent. His last album, 2005's "The Massacre," sold 1.1 million in its first week. In fact, West's "Graduation" is the only other album to come close to that figure since.
Last month, 50 didn't think of West as much of a competitor: "It's great marketing on Def Jam's part, by putting us out there at the same time and make like we can actually be compared on some level," he told the AP. In another interview, he said he would retire if West outsold him.
Fifty, who is planning a world tour for his album, was conciliatory in defeat. In a statement to the AP, which didn't address whether he planned to make good on his vow to retire, he said: "I am very excited to have participated in one of the biggest album release weeks in the last two years. Collectively, we have sold hundreds of thousands of units in our debut week. This marks a great moment for hip-hop music, one that will go down in history."
Indeed, Billboard.com reported that the top four-selling albums, including Kenny Chesney's "Just Who I Am: Poets & Pirates," and "High School Musical 2," sold 2.2 million copies, more than the top 200 albums had sold in the previous week combined.
But while West is enjoying a No. 2 position on the charts with his hit "Stronger," 50 has struggled to connect with radio. None of his songs has matched past smashes like "In Da Club"; even his single "Ayo Technology," featuring Justin Timberlake and Timbaland, is languishing at No. 19.
50's album was originally scheduled to be released in June on Interscope Records, a division of Universal Music Group, but was pushed back to Sept. 11. Soon after, Kanye West, whose album was supposed to come out sometime in late summer, pushed his date to Sept. 11 as well.
West said it was his idea to go directly against 50.
"I was the underdog because I sold less records in the past, so it was a win-win for me," he said. "If I lost, everyone would be happy that I even went up against him."
It ended up the music industry version of Ali-Frazier, with an avalanche of pre-fight hype to match. 50 routinely trash-talked West, but it seemed to be in good fun: The pair made several appearances together, including on a recent cover of Rolling Stone. Both admitted the battle was a great marketing tool.
"The rivalry helped both of them," said Jay-Z, president of West's label Def Jam — also a division of Universal Music Group. "It was definitely one of those moments in the game that was exciting, everybody could pick a side and weigh in on and have an opinion ... it garnered a lot of attention."
West said the quality of his music was the key reason he prevailed: "I think my music is really inspirational and I really made it for the people. I really understood that in this Internet age people are their own superstars ... the best bet that we had was to make a soundtrack to their own lives."
He said he was especially touched that he had such a groundswell of support given some of the negative media attention he's gotten of late; namely, his meltdown at the MTV Video Music Awards after being shut out (though he poked fun at himself during Sunday's Emmy Awards).
"With all the negativity that the press tries to put on me, this perception that they try to create of me being a really bad person — for so many fans to go out and say, 'We still want to buy Kanye's album,' means a lot to me," he said. "This is a really pivotal moment for me emotionally."
Jay-Z, who is featured on a new 50 Cent remix of his hit "I Get Money," said this setback could actually benefit 50 in the long run.
"The worst thing about success is it makes you complacent. I think when you face any type of adversity it makes you dig deep ... everyone goes through it, all the greats go through it," he said. "In his music, he hadn't gone through any type of adversity. ... he'll come back and make great music."
09-19-07, 03:59 PM
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my prob with both of them is that neither of them are good sports. 50 is in it to sell millions and Kanye is in it to win awards. They both miss the point. I personally believe Kanye has shot himself in the foot at the possibility of ever winning any serious Grammys. There are artists who are ten times the legend he is who've never won any of the "big" Grammys. I mean, Springsteen and Prince have for instance won their share of Grammys, but never an "Album Of The Year" which is what Kanye thinks is entitled to him. Springsteen and Prince have definately earned the right to bitch about not having an Album Of The Year Grammy before Kanye does. Bob Dylan didn't win "Album Of The Year" until 1997, 35 years into his career. And like it or not, Dylan's contributed more to music in one finger than Kanye has in his whole body.
With 50 Cent, he needs to realize outside of chart geeks, chart positions are very trivial. There are albums that went to #1 last year that people have forgotten about today, and albums from the 60's and 70's that didn't even make the top 40, or in some cases even top 100, that are viewed as legendary. You're not going to sell out of the ballpark every time, you should try to do the best album you can at this moment of time and be satisfied whether the album peaks at #1 or #106, because you know you did your best. 50 opened at #2 with higher first week sales than a lot of albums are selling their entire runs these days, yet is being a huge crybaby over it. In 10 years, will anyone care who was #1 or #2 this week?
With 50 Cent, he needs to realize outside of chart geeks, chart positions are very trivial. There are albums that went to #1 last year that people have forgotten about today, and albums from the 60's and 70's that didn't even make the top 40, or in some cases even top 100, that are viewed as legendary. You're not going to sell out of the ballpark every time, you should try to do the best album you can at this moment of time and be satisfied whether the album peaks at #1 or #106, because you know you did your best. 50 opened at #2 with higher first week sales than a lot of albums are selling their entire runs these days, yet is being a huge crybaby over it. In 10 years, will anyone care who was #1 or #2 this week?
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09-20-07, 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by mrpayroll
Wrong thread! 
Chris
Chris
He was mentioned a couple times above so I thought I'd say that. Back to the topic of 50 Cent and Kanye West: Their music isn't too bad, it's just overplayed enough to keep me from buying their new CDs. If I see them at a pawn shop or flea market cheap I would get them. There's only one rapper I'd run out and buy new music from and that's Dr. Dre.
09-21-07, 03:52 AM
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Originally Posted by nothingfails
my prob with both of them is that neither of them are good sports. 50 is in it to sell millions and Kanye is in it to win awards. They both miss the point. I personally believe Kanye has shot himself in the foot at the possibility of ever winning any serious Grammys.
09-22-07, 07:07 PM
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Big Sales Decline for both Kanye West's and 50 Cent's CD. Reba Poised For First Career No. 1 (9-21-07)
Billboard's first Woman of the Year may be in line for her first career No. 1 on The Billboard 200, as Reba McEntire's new album leads the Friday edition of Nielsen SoundScan's Building Chart.
Unweighted sales through close of Thursday from 94% of the Building Chart panel stand at 155,000 for "Reba Duets," which means McEntire is on course for her biggest sales week in more than a decade. Kanye West's "Graduation" stands is the Friday runner-up at 91,000.
An informed source estimates that West's album and 50 Cent's "Curtis" will each experience second-week declines of 76% after turning heads this with totals of 957,000 and 691,000, respectively.
Billboard estimates that the merchants who report to Nielsen SoundScan's Building Chart--Trans World Entertainment, Best Buy, Circuit City, iTunes, Border's, Target, Anderson Merchandisers, and Handleman Co.--represents 79% of the U.S. retail market.
McEntire appeared on the Sept. 19 telecast of "The Oprah Winfrey Show" on an episode that also featured Justin Timberlake and Kelly Clarkson, who each take turns on "Reba Duets." She will receive Billboard's inaugural Woman of the Year award on Oct. 5 in New York City.
Christmas week of 1993, when "Greatest Hits Volume Two" rang 183,000 copies, was the last time McEntire ended a Nielsen SoundScan week with a total larger than her sum on Friday's Building Chart. That was the largest weekly sum for any of the 12 prior albums she has released since Nielsen SoundScan launched in 1991.
McEntire's best peak on The Billboard 200 was a No. 2 plateau for 1994 set "Read My Mind," and she has notched nine No. 1s on Top Country Albums.
Way to go Reba!
Billboard's first Woman of the Year may be in line for her first career No. 1 on The Billboard 200, as Reba McEntire's new album leads the Friday edition of Nielsen SoundScan's Building Chart.
Unweighted sales through close of Thursday from 94% of the Building Chart panel stand at 155,000 for "Reba Duets," which means McEntire is on course for her biggest sales week in more than a decade. Kanye West's "Graduation" stands is the Friday runner-up at 91,000.
An informed source estimates that West's album and 50 Cent's "Curtis" will each experience second-week declines of 76% after turning heads this with totals of 957,000 and 691,000, respectively.
Billboard estimates that the merchants who report to Nielsen SoundScan's Building Chart--Trans World Entertainment, Best Buy, Circuit City, iTunes, Border's, Target, Anderson Merchandisers, and Handleman Co.--represents 79% of the U.S. retail market.
McEntire appeared on the Sept. 19 telecast of "The Oprah Winfrey Show" on an episode that also featured Justin Timberlake and Kelly Clarkson, who each take turns on "Reba Duets." She will receive Billboard's inaugural Woman of the Year award on Oct. 5 in New York City.
Christmas week of 1993, when "Greatest Hits Volume Two" rang 183,000 copies, was the last time McEntire ended a Nielsen SoundScan week with a total larger than her sum on Friday's Building Chart. That was the largest weekly sum for any of the 12 prior albums she has released since Nielsen SoundScan launched in 1991.
McEntire's best peak on The Billboard 200 was a No. 2 plateau for 1994 set "Read My Mind," and she has notched nine No. 1s on Top Country Albums.
Way to go Reba!
09-24-07, 08:53 AM
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I saw this today. The rich get richer.
http://www.forbes.com/business/2007/...igetmoney.html
West will have to sell millions of copies of his latest album, plus embark on a mega-successful worldwide stadium tour a la the Rolling Stones, to match 50’s estimated earnings by year’s end, even discounting his recent album. In May, Coca Cola (nyse: KO - news - people ) announced it would pay $4.1 billion to buy Vitamin Water, the bottled water company in which 50 Cent owns a stake. Fiddy’s estimated take from that sale, after taxes: $100 million.
http://www.forbes.com/business/2007/...igetmoney.html
West will have to sell millions of copies of his latest album, plus embark on a mega-successful worldwide stadium tour a la the Rolling Stones, to match 50’s estimated earnings by year’s end, even discounting his recent album. In May, Coca Cola (nyse: KO - news - people ) announced it would pay $4.1 billion to buy Vitamin Water, the bottled water company in which 50 Cent owns a stake. Fiddy’s estimated take from that sale, after taxes: $100 million.
09-24-07, 10:38 AM
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for Reba!I’m sure Kanye will have something to say about this. I’m glad that he outsold 50 cent in the ‘CD War’ but the guy has a huge ego & whines & cries like a little baby when he doesn’t win an award.
