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reubs82 04-14-07 04:38 PM


Originally Posted by Josh Hinkle
I'd pick up The Bends and OK Computer to start with. There two best and they are very accessible. Pablo Honey is too..but it's just not very good as a whole IMO.

If you did those two a lot, then check out Kid A or Hail to the Thief, though they are very different. If you LOVE Kid-A, then check out Amnesiac, if you hate it avoid it as its more or less an Album of Kid-A B-Sides. I love both albums, but if one doesn't like Kid-A they won't like Amnesiac.

I'll agree with your thoughts re: Kid A and Amnesiac. I didn't like Amnesiac very much until I started listening to Kid A (which didn't happen for the first time until a few months ago), but now I like Amnesiac pretty well.

I think I read somewhere that "Hail to the Thief" is the end of Radiohead "as we know them". It would be interesting if they went back to a more Pablo Honey style of rock music a la Creep.

DVD Josh 04-14-07 05:38 PM


Originally Posted by Arpeggi
The Bends is nowhere near one of Radiohead's best.

that seems to be a very minority opinion Arp.

cdollaz 04-14-07 06:17 PM

I think between Kid A and Amnesiac, there is a good album in there. But over 2 albums there is a lot of filler.

Josh H 04-14-07 06:56 PM


Originally Posted by cdollaz
I think between Kid A and Amnesiac, there is a good album in there. But over 2 albums there is a lot of filler.


Totally agree.

DVD Josh 04-14-07 07:37 PM


Originally Posted by Josh Hinkle
Totally agree.

Thirded. In fact, I could probably squeeze IMHO, one good album from everything after OKC

TheGodfather 04-14-07 08:39 PM


Originally Posted by reubs82
I think I read somewhere that "Hail to the Thief" is the end of Radiohead "as we know them". It would be interesting if they went back to a more Pablo Honey style of rock music a la Creep.

Actually I have most of the previously unrecorded new stuff they've been playing live lately, and the style is kind of a marriage between The Bends and OK Computer.

It's scary to think they have finally matured as a band but that's what it feels like to me. Like Pablo Honey was their "OMG we're gonna be rockstars" phase, The Bends was the "We'll show you rock like you've never heard it before" phase, OK Computer was the "Get a load of this" phase, Kid A / Amnesiac being the "We can do whatever we want and it's still great" phase, and Hail To The Thief just expanded on that in what might be their most personal album to date. Now it seems like "OK, we've got our legs under us, this is our style, sit back and enjoy".

For a complete studio album and track listing:

Pablo Honey (1993)
» You
» Creep
» How Do You?
» Stop Whispering
» Thinking About You
» Anyone Can Play Guitar
» Ripcord
» Vegetable
» Prove Yourself
» I Can't
» Lurgee
» Blow Out

The Bends (1995)
» Planet Telex
» The Bends
» High and Dry
» Fake Plastic Trees
» Bones
» Nice Dream
» Just
» My Iron Lung
» Bulletproof... I Wish I Was
» Black Star
» Sulk
» Street Spirit (Fade Out)

OK Computer (1997)
» Airbag
» Paranoid Android
» Subterranean Homesick Alien
» Exit Music (For A Film)
» Let Down
» Karma Police
» Fitter Happier
» Electioneering
» Climbing Up the Walls
» No Surprises
» Lucky
» The Tourist

Kid A (2000)
» Everything in its Right Place
» Kid A
» The National Anthem
» How to Disappear Completely
» Treefingers
» Optimistic
» In Limbo
» Idioteque
» Morning Bell
» Motion Picture Soundtrack

Amnesiac (2001)
» Packt Like Sardines in a Crushd Tin Box
» Pyramid Song
» Pull/Pulk Revolving Doors
» You and Whose Army?
» I Might Be Wrong
» Knives Out
» Amnesiac/Morning Bell
» Dollars and Cents
» Hunting Bears
» Like Spinning Plates
» Life in a Glass House

Hail to the Thief (The Gloaming) (2003)
» 2 + 2 = 5 (The Lukewarm)
» Sit Down. Stand Up. (Snakes & Ladders)
» Sail to the Moon. (Brush the Cobwebs out of the Sky)
» Backdrifts. (Honeymoon is Over)
» Go to Sleep. (Little Man being Erased)
» Where I End and You Begin. (The Sky is Falling in)
» We Suck Young Blood. (Your Time is up)
» The Gloaming. (Softly Open our Mouths in the Cold)
» There There. (The Boney King of Nowhere)
» I Will. (No man's Land)
» A Punchup at a Wedding. (No no no no no no no no)
» Myxomatosis. (Judge, Jury & Executioner)
» Scatterbrain. (As Dead as Leaves)
» A Wolf at the Door. (It Girl. Rag Doll.)

TheGodfather 04-14-07 08:51 PM

Incidentally, if anyone has the following tracks I would really appreciate it if you could e-mail them to me or tell me where I might be able to D-L them. I have every track or theirs ever recorded according to http://www.greenplastic.com/ except for the following 5. I've been all over and can't seem to find them.

Polyetheline (parts 1 & 2) -
from Paranoid Android CD1 & Airbag/How Am I Driving? EP

Bitter-Sweet -
Thom and Jonny joined Bernard Butler, Clune, Paul Kimble, and Roxy Music's Andy Mckay to form a super band called The Venus in Furs to record some tracks for the Velvet Goldmine soundtrack.
"Bitter-Sweet" is a Roxy Music cover.

Sing A Song For You -
A Tim Buckley cover. Probably only live versions available.

Up On The Ladder -
All I Need -
Both songs have not yet been released but may be on the next album. Probably only live versions available.


Thanks in advance for any help.

Rocketdog2000 04-14-07 10:01 PM


Originally Posted by JAA
Easily their two most consistent albums. I differ from most in that my desert island preference would go to The Bends. :)


Me, too. The Bends is the one essential Radiohead album I couldn't live without.

Arpeggi 04-14-07 11:19 PM


Originally Posted by TheGodfather

Up On The Ladder -
All I Need -
Both songs have not yet been released but may be on the next album. Probably only live versions available.


You forgot Arpeggi. That song is gonna own.

Arpeggi 04-14-07 11:21 PM


Originally Posted by cdollaz
I think between Kid A and Amnesiac, there is a good album in there. But over 2 albums there is a lot of filler.


Kid A is almost perfect. Just get rid of Optimistic and it'd be Radiohead's best album.

cdollaz 04-14-07 11:54 PM

Optimistic is probably the best song on that album.

reubs82 04-15-07 12:11 AM

Why the dislike for Optimistic?

And damn this thread...now I'm trying to track down all of their EPs and Singles...I'm thinking I'm better off looking for the EPs of b-sides b/c getting all of the maxi-singles will cost a fortune.

Arpeggi 04-15-07 12:29 AM


Originally Posted by reubs82
Why the dislike for Optimistic?

The band itself dismisses the song as rubbish and hasn't played the song in any live setting since 2001. It's the "Electioneering" of Kid A.

reubs82 04-15-07 01:08 AM

I see. I've never heard them live. Interesting that's their point of view on it. It's interesting how some bands disown their own music.

Rypro 525 04-15-07 01:44 AM


Originally Posted by reubs82
I see. I've never heard them live. Interesting that's their point of view on it. It's interesting how some bands disown their own music.

Don't they still kind of disown Creep as well?

TheGodfather 04-15-07 08:37 AM


Originally Posted by Arpeggi
You forgot Arpeggi. That song is gonna own.

I didn't forget it, I have it. It's definitely a hot one. The more I think of it, the new stuff is OK Computer with just a touch of The Bends as opposed to an equal marriage.

I'm still hoping we finally get a studio recording of "Follow Me Around".

They still don't perform Creep live, or anything off Pablo Honey for that matter.
I saw them at Liberty State Park in NJ 8/17/01. Beta Band and Kid Koala opened for them. It was a fantastic concert. The great thing about these guys is that they sound better live than in the studio. I Might Be Wrong - The Live Recordings album does them no justice. Here is a complete setlist.
01. The National Anthem
02. Lucky
03. Optimistic
04. Karma Police
05. I Might Be Wrong
06. Knives Out
07. Packt Like Sardines In A Crushd Tin Box
08. Exit Music
09. My Iron Lung
10. No Surprises
11. Dollars and Cents
12. Just
13. Pyramid Song
14. Paranoid Android
15. Idioteque
16. Everything In Its Right Place

» Encore
17. Morning Bell
18. Fake Plastic Trees
19. Climbing Up The Walls
20. How to Disappear Completely

» 2nd Encore
21. Talk Show Host
22. You and Whose Army?

» 3rd Encore
23. Like Spinning Plates

» 4th Encore
24. The Bends

No Creep despite a group of girls screaming for it all night - that and Let Down (which Thom Yorke just ignored although he was in a cheery and playful mood - as cheery as he's gonna be...). My favorite performance was of You And Whose Army? during which Thom started off alone at a piano with his back to the audience, face making all sorts of goofy contortions into a video camera showing on the enormous screens. The rest of the band joined in later for the crescendo. Awesome.

Any fan of theirs should really do whatever it takes to get to a live show. It's beyond a concert it's more of an experience.

Arpeggi 04-15-07 09:04 AM

I've seen them about 15 times including 3 times last year. Worth it every single time (even at Coachella)

zombiezilla 04-15-07 09:13 AM

No "Creep" at live shows?!? Fuck that. That's as bad as the Beastie Boys disowning "License to Ill". Just not caring about the people who buy the tickets and CDs.

Jack's Smirking 04-15-07 09:51 AM


Originally Posted by TheGodfather
They still don't perform Creep live, or anything off Pablo Honey for that matter.

I'm sorry, but I don't think this is quite accurate. While it's certainly not commonplace, I know that they do still perform Creep. I heard it at Coachella a couple of years ago, and also saw them perform it on the video of the V Festival. Additionally, I can recall looking through the set-lists of the 2006 performances, and believe they played it 3 or 4 times. :rock:

wendersfan 04-15-07 10:40 AM


Originally Posted by TheGodfather
Thanks in advance for any help.

You've made your settings such that no one can email you.

wendersfan 04-15-07 10:41 AM


Originally Posted by zombiezilla
No "Creep" at live shows?!? Fuck that. That's as bad as the Beastie Boys disowning "License to Ill". Just not caring about the people who buy the tickets and CDs.

It's 2007. Anybody going to a Radiohead show wanting to hear "Creep" probably deserves to be disappointed. :lol:

Arpeggi 04-15-07 10:52 AM


Originally Posted by Jack's Smirking
I'm sorry, but I don't think this is quite accurate. While it's certainly not commonplace, I know that they do still perform Creep. I heard it at Coachella a couple of years ago, and also saw them perform it on the video of the V Festival. Additionally, I can recall looking through the set-lists of the 2006 performances, and believe they played it 3 or 4 times. :rock:


They still play it but mostly as a joke.

zombiezilla 04-15-07 11:41 AM


Originally Posted by wendersfan
It's 2007. Anybody going to a Radiohead show deserves to be disappointed. :lol:


FIXED!

TheGodfather 04-15-07 06:33 PM


Originally Posted by wendersfan
You've made your settings such that no one can email you.

Thanks for the heads up - I changed it now so if you care to e-mail those tracks I'd be much obliged.

I haven't been disappointed by Radiohead yet, be it live performances or albums. The frequency with which they play Creep has absolutely no bearing on the amount of aural bliss this band has given me.

Rypro 525 04-16-07 01:56 AM

Well i happened to find "ok Computer" at target for 9.99 as part of an artist recommendation stand (ironically it was from My Chemical Romance)


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