VH-1 Classic to air entire 4 hr R&R Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony
02-22-07, 04:17 PM
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VH-1 Classic to air entire 4 hr R&R Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony
Should be worth it just to see the Van Halen drama that unfolds
Show: Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony
Episode: Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony (2007)
Network: (VH1C) VH1 Classic
Date: Monday - March 12, 2007
Time: 8:30/7:30c PM
Duration: 4:00
Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony (2007)
Airs live from the Waldorf-Astoria Hotel in New York City.
The 2007 inductees are: Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five (Kid
Creole, Cowboy, Grandmaster Flash, Melle Mel, Mr. Ness, Raheim);
R.E.M. (Bill Berry, Peter Buck, Mike Mills, Michael Stipe); The
Ronettes (Estelle Bennett, Ronnie Spector, Nedra Talley); Patti Smith;
Van Halen (Michael Anthony, Sammy Hagar, Alex Van Halen, Eddie Van
Halen, David Lee Roth).
http://www.vh1.com/artists/rock_on_t...ys=&startdoc=1
Show: Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony
Episode: Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony (2007)
Network: (VH1C) VH1 Classic
Date: Monday - March 12, 2007
Time: 8:30/7:30c PM
Duration: 4:00
Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony (2007)
Airs live from the Waldorf-Astoria Hotel in New York City.
The 2007 inductees are: Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five (Kid
Creole, Cowboy, Grandmaster Flash, Melle Mel, Mr. Ness, Raheim);
R.E.M. (Bill Berry, Peter Buck, Mike Mills, Michael Stipe); The
Ronettes (Estelle Bennett, Ronnie Spector, Nedra Talley); Patti Smith;
Van Halen (Michael Anthony, Sammy Hagar, Alex Van Halen, Eddie Van
Halen, David Lee Roth).
http://www.vh1.com/artists/rock_on_t...ys=&startdoc=1
02-23-07, 12:59 AM
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I *heart* this channel
02-23-07, 08:57 AM
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Great news! I've always enjoyed getting to see the ceremony even in truncated form. I wish they would get the rights to broadcast the ceremonies that occurred before they began airing them on television.
03-13-07, 10:14 AM
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Geez was Peter Buck wasted or what? Drinking wine during the induction. Real class Pete. And tossing an amp into the front row almost hitting a couple people. The rest of REM are class acts though.
You could tell everyone in the hall was wondering what Sammy Hagar was doing on that stage during the closing song (People have the Power). Halls of Fame are created to exclude musical lightweights like Hagar but there he is riding Van Halen's coattails to try to be significant. Eddie Veddar tried like hell to avoid singing with him. And even skinny Michael Stipe almost stepped all over his fat ass. And what the hell is he doing singing a Patti Smith song about social activism when all he ever sings about is pussy and tequila?
What an embarrassment.
You could tell everyone in the hall was wondering what Sammy Hagar was doing on that stage during the closing song (People have the Power). Halls of Fame are created to exclude musical lightweights like Hagar but there he is riding Van Halen's coattails to try to be significant. Eddie Veddar tried like hell to avoid singing with him. And even skinny Michael Stipe almost stepped all over his fat ass. And what the hell is he doing singing a Patti Smith song about social activism when all he ever sings about is pussy and tequila?
What an embarrassment.
03-13-07, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by cungar
You could tell everyone in the hall was wondering what Sammy Hagar was doing on that stage during the closing song (People have the Power). Halls of Fame are created to exclude musical lightweights like Hagar but there he is riding Van Halen's coattails to try to be significant. Eddie Veddar tried like hell to avoid singing with him. And even skinny Michael Stipe almost stepped all over his fat ass. And what the hell is he doing singing a Patti Smith song about social activism when all he ever sings about is pussy and tequila?
What an embarrassment.
What an embarrassment.
03-13-07, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Chrisedge
Sammy has more class than lots of other folks in R&R.
03-13-07, 01:33 PM
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I love Sammy but ... the crteria for induction in the hall is 25 years, Sammy joined in 85 so he shouldn't be inducted with them because he was in VH only 23 years.
On the other hand Ronnie James Dio should have been inducted with Black Sabbath because he joined in 79 making it 27 years.
also, Velvet Revolver was horrible
On the other hand Ronnie James Dio should have been inducted with Black Sabbath because he joined in 79 making it 27 years.
also, Velvet Revolver was horrible
03-13-07, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by cungar
Wasn't responding to it once enough to get yours across?
Originally Posted by cungar
You could tell everyone in the hall was wondering what Sammy Hagar was doing on that stage during the closing song (People have the Power). Halls of Fame are created to exclude musical lightweights like Hagar but there he is riding Van Halen's coattails to try to be significant.
NOW it's been responded to twice.
03-14-07, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by cungar
Geez was Peter Buck wasted or what? Drinking wine during the induction. Real class Pete. And tossing an amp into the front row almost hitting a couple people. The rest of REM are class acts though.
You could tell everyone in the hall was wondering what Sammy Hagar was doing on that stage during the closing song (People have the Power). Halls of Fame are created to exclude musical lightweights like Hagar but there he is riding Van Halen's coattails to try to be significant. Eddie Veddar tried like hell to avoid singing with him. And even skinny Michael Stipe almost stepped all over his fat ass. And what the hell is he doing singing a Patti Smith song about social activism when all he ever sings about is pussy and tequila?
What an embarrassment.
You could tell everyone in the hall was wondering what Sammy Hagar was doing on that stage during the closing song (People have the Power). Halls of Fame are created to exclude musical lightweights like Hagar but there he is riding Van Halen's coattails to try to be significant. Eddie Veddar tried like hell to avoid singing with him. And even skinny Michael Stipe almost stepped all over his fat ass. And what the hell is he doing singing a Patti Smith song about social activism when all he ever sings about is pussy and tequila?
What an embarrassment.
03-14-07, 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Chrisedge
Plus no "Diamond Dave" VH album reached # 1, yet every studio album with Sammy did.
And we all know sales=quality. Just look at today's pop charts.
03-14-07, 04:49 PM
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Voting rigged in favor of Grandmaster Flash?
From Salon.com:
Wednesday, Mar 14, 2007
Hall of shame
Earlier this week, in New York, Patti Smith, the Ronettes, R.E.M. and Van Halen were inducted along with Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. The big news of the night was that the induction of Grandmaster Flash and his angry quintet marked the first time a rap act has gained entry into the hall. Unfortunately, Flash's induction may have been the result of some Jann Wenner-led shenanigans: On Wednesday morning, Fox News' Roger Friedman wrote that British invasion group the Dave Clark Five reportedly received more votes than Grandmaster Flash in the final tally, but "Jann went back to a previous ballot instead of taking the final vote as the last word," a source told Friedman. "He used a technicality about the day votes were due in. In reality, the Dave Clark Five got six more votes than Grandmaster Flash. But he felt we couldn't go another year without a rap act... We begged Jann to allow all six acts to be inducted. But he insisted that he couldn't because there wouldn't be enough time."
The suspect practices of this year's induction have shed some unflattering light on the way the hall works -- and the purpose of its existence. (Let's keep in mind its self-described mission is to honor "the legendary performers, producers, songwriters, disc jockeys and others who have made rock and roll the force that it is in our culture.") The bottom line is that the hall's inductees clearly reflect the taste of a certain type of listener, a listener who likes the same stuff as Jann Wenner. The Fox story claimed that a good chunk of the hall's 32-person nominating committee consists of Wenner employees such as Rolling Stone writers Joe Levy, David Fricke and Nathan Brackett and Wenner musical buddies like Paul Shaffer, Steven Van Zandt and Robbie Robertson (who are the only musicians on the committee). It's a kowtowing, not to mention gray-bearded, bunch of decision-makers. A great story from MTV.com quoted an anonymous member of the hall's nominating committee describing the nomination process: "I walk into the room and it's full of old men. There's no young people, there's like two women, there's no people of color -- well, I shouldn't say none, but there's a preponderance of old men. I look across the table and I see people sleeping -- I'm just waiting for someone to die at the table -- and they're making the decisions!"
Fealty to Wenner and age/taste demographics of the nominating committee go a long way in explaining how cloying singer-songwriters like Jackson Browne and forgotten nostalgia acts like the Flamingos make it into the hall while influential and challenging legends like Yes and Tom Waits are on the outside looking in. (You can view a list of the inductees here). And anyway, a rock hall of fame that doesn't include Captain Beefheart, T. Rex or the Meters isn't worth its salt. What do you think? Is the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame a worthwhile institution? If so, who are its most egregious oversights? Post your answers in the comments section.
-- David Marchese
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Wednesday, Mar 14, 2007
Hall of shame
Earlier this week, in New York, Patti Smith, the Ronettes, R.E.M. and Van Halen were inducted along with Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. The big news of the night was that the induction of Grandmaster Flash and his angry quintet marked the first time a rap act has gained entry into the hall. Unfortunately, Flash's induction may have been the result of some Jann Wenner-led shenanigans: On Wednesday morning, Fox News' Roger Friedman wrote that British invasion group the Dave Clark Five reportedly received more votes than Grandmaster Flash in the final tally, but "Jann went back to a previous ballot instead of taking the final vote as the last word," a source told Friedman. "He used a technicality about the day votes were due in. In reality, the Dave Clark Five got six more votes than Grandmaster Flash. But he felt we couldn't go another year without a rap act... We begged Jann to allow all six acts to be inducted. But he insisted that he couldn't because there wouldn't be enough time."
The suspect practices of this year's induction have shed some unflattering light on the way the hall works -- and the purpose of its existence. (Let's keep in mind its self-described mission is to honor "the legendary performers, producers, songwriters, disc jockeys and others who have made rock and roll the force that it is in our culture.") The bottom line is that the hall's inductees clearly reflect the taste of a certain type of listener, a listener who likes the same stuff as Jann Wenner. The Fox story claimed that a good chunk of the hall's 32-person nominating committee consists of Wenner employees such as Rolling Stone writers Joe Levy, David Fricke and Nathan Brackett and Wenner musical buddies like Paul Shaffer, Steven Van Zandt and Robbie Robertson (who are the only musicians on the committee). It's a kowtowing, not to mention gray-bearded, bunch of decision-makers. A great story from MTV.com quoted an anonymous member of the hall's nominating committee describing the nomination process: "I walk into the room and it's full of old men. There's no young people, there's like two women, there's no people of color -- well, I shouldn't say none, but there's a preponderance of old men. I look across the table and I see people sleeping -- I'm just waiting for someone to die at the table -- and they're making the decisions!"
Fealty to Wenner and age/taste demographics of the nominating committee go a long way in explaining how cloying singer-songwriters like Jackson Browne and forgotten nostalgia acts like the Flamingos make it into the hall while influential and challenging legends like Yes and Tom Waits are on the outside looking in. (You can view a list of the inductees here). And anyway, a rock hall of fame that doesn't include Captain Beefheart, T. Rex or the Meters isn't worth its salt. What do you think? Is the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame a worthwhile institution? If so, who are its most egregious oversights? Post your answers in the comments section.
-- David Marchese
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03-14-07, 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by cungar
And we all know sales=quality. Just look at today's pop charts.
Fact is, they sold more records and had bigger success with Sammy. Some folks prefer Dave. Some prefer Sammy, I like both. Glad the one with the class showed up to get the award at least.
03-14-07, 06:30 PM
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i like sammy and dave equally... Van Halen was a totatlly different band with each of the singers IMO. This Grand Master Flash thing sucks...wtf is a rap act doing being inducted into the ROCK AND ROLL hall of fame? It;s not like they honor Rock artists when they have VH! Hip Hop Honors..and they shouldnt
03-15-07, 08:43 AM
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I don't have a problem with rap acts being inducted but I do think Grandmaster Flash was given the nod for politically correct reasons. The Beastie Boys become eligible next year but Run DMC isn't eligible until the following year. It wouldn't look too good to have a group of white guys be the first act inducted even though they are obviously worthy of the honor.
03-15-07, 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Chrisedge
Fact is, they sold more records and had bigger success with Sammy. Some folks prefer Dave. Some prefer Sammy, I like both. Glad the one with the class showed up to get the award at least.
