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Old 08-22-07, 04:50 PM
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I think the opening of Mean Streets would silence critics just as well.
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I think the last time I saw them together they opened up with Atomic Punk.
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Originally Posted by Rocketdog2000
Having seen the band with both Roth and Hagar, and each both solo, I will easily give the nod to Roth being the better show with Van Halen. The '81 Fair Warning tour show I saw them on is still one of my top three concerts of all-time! I cannot say nearly the same of any show I saw them with during the Hagar years.

Solo, however, I prefer Sammy's show - and that's always been my thing where his being in the band is concerned. While he made some decent music with Van Halen, I just prefer Sammy as a solo artist more, and I think he's much better off on his own. I dig Dave's solo stuff, too, but Roth with Van Halen is, and always will be my "definitive" version of the band.

I also agree that Cherone just ended up being not right for the band at all. Based on listening to the first Extreme album alone, you might not think so, and I have no issue with his singing in that band. But with VH, my biggest problem was that, to me at least, he spent the whole time aping Sammy Hagar's style rather than using his own. And that I was not down with.
I was 3 in 1981...just for reference purposes. My first VH show was the OU812 tour. I did see Roth on the Skyscraper tour though...I think I was 10. I don't remember much of it, except I was amazed at how loud it was, and I got a T-shirt. I wish I could have seen the Roth era VH in their Fair Warning Prime on tour...I bet that would have been a badass show.

I think I jumped a bit to post before, I'm not sure that it was Gary didn't fit. Someone said it better than I did above - that he was just in a bad situation with the band, and was kinda put in to be kinda like Sammy instead of just being Cherone.

As for the show opening...'Mean Streets' would be fucking badass. Who wants to see them do 'Me Wise Magic'? I've always thought that was a cool song.

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I just saw Extreme this past Sunday night. They debuted a new song called 'Rock and Roll Man' in honor of the late Brad Delp; song was quite good, very Beatle-ish and featured Nuno on keyboards!
Fresh off youtube, cool videos. I believe since this was a tribute show this is their whole set. The new song Rock and Roll Man is there someplace.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2ohoYbVRAM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQUjLwuXcG0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aE2qdZ8-74g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tmi1fr-sfBs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKWyvjLWtIc

pics - http://www.jeffreymatephoto.com/Extreme/Extreme.html

Originally Posted by lordzeppelin
I think I jumped a bit to post before, I'm not sure that it was Gary didn't fit. Someone said it better than I did above - that he was just in a bad situation with the band, and was kinda put in to be kinda like Sammy instead of just being Cherone.
Even with Extreme Gary always has had Hagar like rhythm/sound to his singing voice. Perhaps it just reminds fans to much of Sammy Hagar. You nailed it when you said he was just in a bad situation with the band and it was not well recieved by fans. 1 and done, but Gary Cherone was the bands third lead singer and will always be no matter what. Respect what the guy gave to this band on "3" and the live shows and that he had the belief in his talent and the balls to do it.

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I love the fact that there putting aside there differences and going out on tour finnally. It would just be plain stupid to pass up that much money.
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What's the story with tickets in certain cities not being on sale yet? VH is slated to be in Indy in a little over a month, and tickets are still TBA!
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The Indy show tickets go on sale Saturday, Sept. 8. Mellencamp in Indy goes on sale, the following Saturday, if you're interested...
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From Van Halen's website:

VAN HALEN IMMEDIATELY SELLS OUT
DATES, ADDITIONAL SHOWS ADDED!
Fans Across The Country Show Their Excitement for First Van Halen/David Lee Roth Tour in More Than 22 Years
LOS ANGELES, CA -- August 20, 2007

Tickets for the first Van Halen tour in more than 22 years with David Lee Roth as lead vocalist went on sale this weekend and resulted in immediate sell outs in multiple markets around the country, including Charlotte, Detroit (Palace), 2 shows in Toronto, 2 in Chicago and one in Philadelphia. Tour producer Live Nation immediately added additional shows in Philadelphia (Wachovia Center 10/3) and Detroit (Joe Louis Arena 10/20) which will go on sale this Saturday, August 25th.

An additional stop was also scheduled for Washington, DC’s Verizon Center (11/1), extending Van Halen’s historic trek to 29 dates in all. Tickets for the Washington, DC date will go on sale this Friday, August 24th. In addition, tickets for the band’s October 30th show at Boston’s TD Banknorth Garden go on sale this Saturday, August 25th.

A complete list of confirmed dates can be found HERE and more information and tickets are available at www.LiveNation.com. Additional announcements regarding on sale dates will be made in the coming weeks. Individuals who have the Citi® / AAdvantage® card, the official credit card of the tour, will be offered access to purchase preferred seats to all U.S. shows.

Fans can enjoy the ultimate Van Halen experience including concert pre-show parties, backstage access, premium seating and more. For additional details go to www.ILoveAllAccess.com. Fans are encouraged to also check in at www.Van-Halen.com for additional information.

Van Halen remains one of the most important and influential bands of all time. Formed in Los Angeles in 1974, the band quickly won a loyal hometown fan base with their electrifying live shows. From the moment they released their self-titled 1978 debut album, Van Halen shook the foundations of rock, thanks largely to Roth’s peerless showmanship, Eddie Van Halen’s revolutionary guitar virtuosity and their songwriting abilities. It changed rock music forever.

The band’s first album proved one of the biggest selling rock debuts, with key tracks like “Eruption,” “Running with the Devil,” “Jamie’s Cryin’,” “You Really Got Me” and “Ain’t Talkin’ ‘Bout Love” leading the way. The next year, the band followed up with “Van Halen II,” which included the hit “Dance the Night Away.”

Subsequent albums like “Women and Children First” (1980), “Fair Warning” (1981) and “Diver Down” (1982), along with worldwide touring, solidified the band’s reputation for innovative and unparalleled live performances. Classic Van Halen tracks from the early 80’s include “Everybody Wants Some,” “Unchained”, “And The Cradle Will Rock”, “Beautiful Girls”, “Mean Street” and “Somebody Get Me A Doctor” just to name a few.

With their sixth album, released in, and titled “1984”, Van Halen rose to stratospheric heights. Recorded at Eddie Van Halen’s 5150 Studios, the multi-platinum smash yielded one of Van Halen’s signature hits, “Jump,” which remained #1 on the Billboard charts for an astounding five weeks straight. Other hits from the album include “Panama,” “Hot For Teacher” and “I’ll Wait.”

The band’s record of achievement is hard to top. Presented with two Diamond Award RIAA Certified Status’ for their albums “Van Halen” and “1984”, Van Halen joins an elite short list of two time Diamond Award honorees in the history of the music industry. The Diamond Award is presented to an artist for album sales of 10 million or more units. They are also in the Guinness Book of World Records for having the most #1 hits on Billboard’s Mainstream Rock chart than any other band in history.

Inducted into the Rock ‘N’ Roll Hall of Fame in March of this year, Van Halen has produced a treasured body of work that fans will admire for decades to come.
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This was taken from someone who was at the rehearsal. SPOILERS SPOILERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!







On Saturday night a friend of mine got me in to see a Van Halen
rehearsal in Los Angeles. (I've been sworn to secrecy on certain
aspects of this story, including location. Someone else may fill in
the details, but it won't be me.)

Photos at: http://tinyurl.com/2yt2sg

We arrived to an empty arena (except for the VH staff) containing
VH's full stage setup. No one from the band had arrived yet.

The stage has a runway which snakes out into the audience in a giant
"S" shape, which mirrors the lighting rig above it. The "S"
continues behind and above the stage so a band member can walk to the
very top and be standing above Ed's rig. There's a giant video
screen the width of the entire stage, but neither the screen nor the
stage lights were tested tonight; only the house lights were used.
(It didn't matter in the slightest.)

We arrived about an hour before the band while the crew fine-tuned
the equipment. Drums were tested, guitars tuned, and pink noise
blasted through the P.A. The general mood of everyone seemed very
high with lots of smiles and friendly faces. Many people nodded to
us and said, "hello."

Eddie was the first to arrive, and very shortly after that, Wolfgang
and Alex. Valerie was with Wolf as were about five of his friends
from school, I'm guessing. (They all looked the same age.) Alex and
Ed spent about 15 minutes on stage noodling while Wolfie was showing
his friends the venue. The three of them then met on stage and Eddie
said into the P.A., "We're not opening with it, but let's play "I'm
The One" just to warm up. And that they did. A funny moment
occurred when Ed screwed up the bit right before they usually go
acapella. He spoke into the mic, "Did I mess that up?" Wolf
confirmed, "Yeah, you were late." Both were smiling.

After "I'm The One", there was a bit more noodling and then some
down time as people waited for Dave. I'm not sure if he was running
late or if that's just how the schedule was.

When Dave did show up, right from the start, he was all smiles. He
was dressed in tight, flared out leather pants and a black/striped
dress shirt.

The rest of the account is going to contain, for lack of a better
word, "spoilers" of the show, including the set list, all though not
in order. If you don't want to know, fair warning.

Dave addressed the crowd and treated us as if we were guests in his
arena sized house. He thanked us for coming and talked about how
excited he was to be here and what a "privilege and honor" it was to
play with his "brutha's from another mutha." (And yes, that's a
quote.) He then went on to great lengths to explain what we would be
seeing tonight: that it was a rehearsal where they would be stopping
and starting, testing things out, etc. (And he did this all very
eloquently with many one-liners, as only Dave does.) Right before
the band began, he explained, "Okay as soon as you hear the first
note, that's when the curtain comes up." He did that throughout the
show; stopping to tell us what we would be seeing if this were the
actual concert. The constant commentary and casual asides reminded
me of that story I've heard where at a concert he wanted to turn the
P.A. around so that "everyone could be backstage." That's how this
show felt. As if we were being let it on the secret.

The show started with "You Really Got Me." Dave was standing on the
high part of the "S" stage above Alex waving a giant Red flag as the
show began. Then he threw the flag down, and for the first time in
over 22 years, David Lee Roth sang on stage with Eddie Van Halen.

I'd say there were only about 40-50 guests there that night who were
lucky enough to get in. Most of us sat in the "5-star" section
inside the loop of the "S" runway, but there wasn't even enough of us
to fill it up. And there was a silly L.A.attitude amongst the crowd
of" Oh-I'm-so-hip- I-don't-need- to-sit-in- the-front- row" thing going
on, as if this event was an every day occurrence. (After the first
song, I couldn't stay away, and moved from the 5th row to right up
front, just off center towards Ed's side.) The stage setup has at
least 8 speakers just for the people in the first few rows, so you
don't have to worry about hearing only the echoey remnants of the
main P.A. You'll get the full mix nice and loud. But Holy God,
bring earplugs.

Wolfgang did a fine job, even providing decent sounding backup
vocals. I have absolutely nothing bad to say about him, but I'd be
lying if I didn't say that Michael Anthony was missed. While Wolf
competently filled the position, he doesn't have the same sound,
either in his playing or in his voice, as Michael. It's such a shame
that silly personal conflicts can't be resolved so that people can
finally see the classic lineup again. I do have to say though, it's
obvious how much Ed loves playing with Wolfgang. He would be all
smiles when he walked over to Wolfie and after one song, stepped up
to the P.A. and said, "Great job, Wolf. Great."

Over the next hour and a half or so the band played classic after
classic that VH haven't done in years. The Sammy Hagar era is dead
now, as far as I can tell. (All though when warming up, Eddie ran
the VH-stripped drill across his guitar as if he was was starting
"Poundcake", but no more than that.) I was surprised by some of the
gems they brought out. I'll post the songs I remember at the end of
the article, but the order will be completely wrong except for the
first song and the encore.

The great thrill of the show was seeing Dave and Ed interact. If
there's any animosity between them, it didn't show at all. Both were
constantly smiling, and Dave often did the schtick where he holds his
mic to Ed's guitar during a solo while he looks at the crowd, open
mouthed in astonishment.

That's not to say that Dave didn't get pissed, however. He was
standing out by the far tail of the "S" runway when, in the middle of
a song, he yelled at the soundboard crew with intense anger, "TURN
THE FUCKING VOCALS UP! Don't make me ask you again!" I turned to Ed
to see his reaction, thinking he would be pissed at Dave's behavior,
but incredibly, Ed just smiled even wider. As Dave walked past him
returning to the stage, they did a mini-hi-five, low and behind each
other's back. I don't know what it meant. I'm guessing it's one of
those things that only makes sense to two people who have known each
other for decades.

I never got to see Dave sing with Van Halen live. I got into the
band in 1984 when I was 12 and didn't see them until the OU812
tour. I've seen Dave solo multiple times, but am always wonderfully
caught off guard by his stage antics. He really is the clown prince
of rock 'n' roll, and I say that with as much affection as I can.
There's not a moment that goes by where he's not trying to entertain
you, whether it be with silly facial expressions, dance moves, jokes,
props or stories. He is the former 5 year old kid who ran up to
every new adult and wanted to show them everything he owned and all
the things he could do and wouldn't stop talking until his parents
told him it was bed time. And that attitude has never quite gone away.

Thinking about the whole experience, I can't help but smile. I was
going to write a few more details about the show, (like the brilliant
way Dave introduces "Somebody Get Me A Doctor" or the intensity from
Dave that makes "Mean Street" one of the great live VH songs) but I
think it's probably better to let you all discover that for yourself.

Song list (again, not in order):

******Song list spoiler space*******

YOU REALLY GOT ME
ROMEO DELIGHT
SOMEBODY GET ME A DOCTOR
I'M THE ONE
MEAN STREET
UNCHAINED
PRETTY WOMAN (No "Intruder.")
DANCE THE NIGHT AWAY
ICE CREAM MAN
BEAUTIFUL GIRLS
GUITAR SOLO - NOT the solo of the 2004 tour. Includes everything you
want to hear: Eruption, Cathedreal, etc.
SO THIS IS LOVE?
AND THE CRADLE WILL ROCK....
EVERYBODY WANTS SOME!!
SECRETS
I'LL WAIT
RUNNIN' WITH THE DEVIL
LITTLE GUITARS
JAMIE'S CRYIN'
ATOMIC PUNK
FEEL YOUR LOVE TONIGHT
LITTLE DREAMER
ON FIRE
PANAMA
HOT FOR TEACHER
AIN'T TALKIN' 'ABOUT LOVE

ENCORE:
1984
JUMP
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Holy fucking shit. That's the best rock-n-roll news report I've ever read. Thank you so much for sharing.
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Yeah, that just made my month. I just hope they end up including a few more songs from Fair Warning, but some of the songs listed make me want to jump for joy. I can't wait for this.
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Originally Posted by The_Infidel
What's the story with tickets in certain cities not being on sale yet? VH is slated to be in Indy in a little over a month, and tickets are still TBA!
I know what you mean - same deal for the Nassau Coliseum and MSG. Nothing yet.
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Damn. That article makes me wish I had taken the crappy seats that came up on ticketmaster.
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Now all I need is some damned TEXAS dates!
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Interesting set. A little too heavy on the first album and not enough from Fair
Warning or 1984.

Not sure why they would want to play "Secrets." That song is in the bottom 5% of their catalog, quality-wise.
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I was hoping the article would've mention how Dave's voice was holding up and how Eddie's playing was. Too much talk about stage interaction... which is fine.... but I want to read about the musical muscle this band might have.
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He did mention that guitar solo that has "everything you'd want to hear," so I imagine Eddie's still got the goods.
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It just seems like he was purposely vague about the technical side of their current musical state. Why do this knowing that fans will want to know if they still "sound" like Van Halen or if they are a shell of it's former self. I don't understand why that would be omitted.

Also, when he mentioned the solo... "Includes everything you
want to hear: Eruption, Cathedreal, etc."...he's talking about content rather than his musicianship. Again, an odd omission.

Tickets for the San Diego show go on sale Saturday. I'd really love to go because I've been a fan for a long time. But their show here is towards the end of the tour and, who knows, they may not be on speaking terms by then

I want to go. I want them to kick-ass. Though I enjoyed VH during the Sammy years, it just wasn't Van Halen without Dave. While on the surface the report from the rehearsal sounds good... it just doesn't give me a warm and fuzzy.
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Originally Posted by TomOpus
Also, when he mentioned the solo... "Includes everything you want to hear: Eruption, Cathedreal, etc."...he's talking about content rather than his musicianship. Again, an odd omission.
That's how I read it too, and if IIRC has this not been EVH solo for many years now? A mix of all of the his intro's etc?
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pics of the rehearsal here if you haven't seen them.




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It's probably just a bad shot but Dave looks like he's having trouble breathing in that picture.
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So... how many shows before the tour is cancelled? I'm going to place my bet on 6.
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I'll bet they do'em all, and schedule some more, too...
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I say 12.


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