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art 09-18-06 09:18 AM

Nickelback = boring and conservative
 
Is Nickelback for real? They must be one of the most boring and conservative bands around right now. Their lyrics are mush, their music is moronic, and their image is the same old same old. One wonders how much lower popular music can go. Where are all the creative bands that used to be around?

Groucho 09-18-06 09:33 AM

Are you sure you don't mean Knickleback?

cungar 09-18-06 09:41 AM

Apparently Portugal agrees with you

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhIoStob8xg

Dr. Henry Jones, Jr. 09-18-06 09:46 AM

I think you mean boring and repetitive

Dr. Henry Jones, Jr. 09-18-06 09:46 AM


Originally Posted by art
Where are all the creative bands that used to be around?

Like Limp Bizkit?

covenant 09-18-06 10:50 AM


Originally Posted by art
Is Nickelback for real? They must be one of the most boring and conservative bands around right now. Their lyrics are mush, their music is moronic, and their image is the same old same old. One wonders how much lower popular music can go. Where are all the creative bands that used to be around?

QFT

El Scorcho 09-18-06 11:18 AM

There's definitely not enough gay porn in my Nickelback.

Big Boy Laroux 09-18-06 12:24 PM

can we also add "worst hair in music" to the list?

Mopower 09-18-06 04:47 PM


Originally Posted by art
Is Nickelback for real?


Last I knew they were a real band so yes they are for real.

I like them. I'm sure there is plenty of music you like that other people think is shit as well.

DRG 09-18-06 05:00 PM

For once I agree with art!

BravesMG 09-18-06 05:30 PM

Another vote for liking Nickelback. Not my favorite, but surely something not bad that I enjoy every time some of their stuff randomly pops up on the playlist.

milo bloom 09-18-06 06:43 PM


Originally Posted by art
Is Nickelback for real? They must be one of the most boring and conservative bands around right now. Their lyrics are mush, their music is moronic, and their image is the same old same old. One wonders how much lower popular music can go. Where are all the creative bands that used to be around?

I've been waiting for this topic to come up in a way that I can contribute without threadcrapping. Everytime I hear (or hear about) Nickelback, for some reason I'm reminded of a band with a similar name that, IMHO, outclasses Nickelback six ways to Sunday: Nickel Creek. I mean, who else can do a song about Tom Bombadil that you don't need to be high to appreciate.

I just want to put that out there.

Nickel Creek :thumbsup:

Nickelback :thmbsdwn:

zombiezilla 09-18-06 07:32 PM

Nickelback are OK by me. I'm not a fan of their ballad-type-slow songs, but their heavy stuff is cool. Even in Portugal.

MASAMUNE2 09-18-06 07:33 PM

I like Nickelback too

SeekOnce 09-18-06 07:38 PM


Originally Posted by Lunatikk
I think you mean boring and repetitive

Yup. I don't think Nickelback is that bad of a band honestly and I do like a couple of their songs. But the singles are way too similar. Hell, you can exchange the lyrics for "How You Remind Me" with "Savin' Me" and it'll still be the same song.

Mr. Cinema 09-18-06 08:16 PM

and they sound great live. :thumbsup:

EdTheRipper 09-18-06 08:29 PM

I like Nickelback.

paulringodaman 09-18-06 09:35 PM

I saw them live and had a good time..not amazing, but not bad!

argh923 09-18-06 09:41 PM

Who the fuck cares if they're "conversative"? Why does that matter at all?

asabase 09-18-06 09:49 PM

Who let art out of adult?

sb5 09-18-06 10:28 PM


Originally Posted by abrg923
Who the fuck cares if they're "conversative"? Why does that matter at all?

I took it as "conservative" in the artistic sense, not the political sense.

antennaball 09-18-06 10:58 PM

I like 'em as do most of my friends who are decidedly NOT people who like crappy music. The key is getting past the terrible ballads that they play non-stop on the radio. I haven't been disappointed by one of their CD's yet.

argh923 09-18-06 11:17 PM


Originally Posted by sb5
I took it as "conservative" in the artistic sense, not the political sense.

Again, who cares? I hate the elitist attitude that all music has to be "artful". The hell with that. Music has to be fun to listen to and enjoyable.

freshticles 09-18-06 11:30 PM


Originally Posted by antennaball
I like 'em as do most of my friends who are decidedly NOT people who like crappy music. The key is getting past the terrible ballads that they play non-stop on the radio. I haven't been disappointed by one of their CD's yet.

I'm sorry, it's not just the ballads. This band is everything that is wrong with music. This band is the reason why so many artists don't get their dues, becuase people are too busy swallowing this brainless drivel and record labels are paying attention. So radio stations don't play good music because labels are paying them big bucks to play shit. People in turn give the label money to sign more bands that sound exactly the same, like theory of a dead man or default. Most of the people I've ever met who listen to this band have no artistic skills of any kind or a knowledge of music at all. There's a big musical world out there....time to explore

antennaball 09-18-06 11:47 PM


Originally Posted by freshticles
I'm sorry fella, it's not just the ballads. This band is everything that is wrong with music. This band is the reason why so many artists don't get their dues, becuase people are too busy swallowing this brainless drivel and record labels are paying attention. So radio stations don't play good music because labels are paying them big bucks to play shit. You in turn give the label money to sign more bands that sound exactly the same, like theory of a dead man or default. Most of the people I've ever met who listen to this band have no artistic skills of any kind or a knowledge of music at all. There's a big musical world out there....time to explore

Trust me, I'm very musically diverse and I like plenty of the obscure bands that it's "cool" to like. I just also think that a lot of people discount decent music because it's trendy to dislike the band. I'm not saying that's you, because musical tastes certainly differ and I'm sure you legitimately don't like them. Saying that one band is killing music is certainly extreme.

In the future though, you probably shouldn't judge someone's lack of musical knowledge on one band.

argh923 09-19-06 12:10 AM


Originally Posted by antennaball
In the future though, you probably shouldn't judge someone's lack of musical knowledge on one band.

Exactly. THAT is an elitist attitude.

mkdevo 09-19-06 06:09 AM

the proof

covenant 09-19-06 09:26 AM

wow....just wow

Mopower 09-19-06 12:47 PM


Originally Posted by mkdevo


:lol: Thats awsome.

Proof of what? That they use the same formula for two of their songs? It's called every band from 1955-1965.

Mopower 09-19-06 12:51 PM


Originally Posted by milo bloom
I've been waiting for this topic to come up in a way that I can contribute without threadcrapping. Everytime I hear (or hear about) Nickelback, for some reason I'm reminded of a band with a similar name that, IMHO, outclasses Nickelback six ways to Sunday: Nickel Creek. I mean, who else can do a song about Tom Bombadil that you don't need to be high to appreciate.

I just want to put that out there.

Nickel Creek :thumbsup:

Nickelback :thmbsdwn:


Nickelback = Pop rock band

Nickel Creek = Bluegrass band

How can you compare the two? :confused:

Yeah I can say Vivaldi is much better than AC/DC but the arguement would be a little bit rediculous.

BloodyDrake 09-19-06 01:21 PM

NickleBack is a hella good band.
I just don't get people that got there snobbish nose stuck so far in the air they can't just accept that sometimes music doesn't have to be anything more then some good old rocknroll.

And who the hell is lableing Nickelback pop rock? WTF go listen to All the Right Reasons CD and not just the ballads that get air play.
They're a Rock band with some Hardrock/Metal Tunes alot of regular rock songs and some ballads. If you open your ears with out being so judgmental. songs like Side of a Bullet and Next Contestent and Animals are all very Classic Rock/metal styles of songs and are great fun to get pumped up to when ya need need it.

I just don't get why everyone has so much disdain for them cuz they're successful..they're successful cuz lots of people enjoy em..nothing wrong with that. Ironically isn't that the point..

freshticles 09-19-06 01:22 PM

Sorry, I'm just extremely protective of music. I've devoted every aspect of my life to it. I live in B.C, about an hour from Vancouver and I remember when Chad Kroeger used to play the local bar up here every month and people even laughed at them then. A person I play with is good freinds with the guitarist from T.o.a.d.m and he full out does not like what he does and only does it for the cash. Apparently Chad Kroeger also doesn't think very highly of what he does and just pumps out albums and songs for himself and other bands in the same formula so he can afford that nice mansion he owns in Abbotsford. That's the problem with bands like this. They don't give a shit about their fans and are laughing while people buy their albums knowing damn well there was no effort put into it.

cungar 09-19-06 01:25 PM


Originally Posted by BloodyDrake
NickleBack is a hella good band.
I just don't get people that got there snobbish nose stuck so far in the air they can't just accept that sometimes music doesn't have to be anything more then some good old rocknroll.

Creed broke up so Nickleback took their crown of corporate rock whipping boy.

foofighters7 09-19-06 01:27 PM

I have all their albums, except their most recent, I think. (i say i think because I never really looked into it), but I think they are a band that I kinda liked initally and then started to loathe with each album after the inital one.
As of right now I dont care about them, I dislike every new song of theirs I have heard over the past few years, and I call this
"The Creed Syndrome" ...
Which means, 1st album garners fans , but albums after the first lose many original fans, but garners even more 'different fans'. Eventually it ends in a orgy of meaningless self absorbed lyrics and crappy music.

I for one never ever ever liked Creed, but I think alot of people could act similarly to Nickleback as they were to Creed.
Then again Creed had the one and only Scott Stapp, and Nickleback only has Chad Kreuger(?onspelling).
Chad doesnt have the uncanny egotistical self love that Scott did, so Maybe im wrong and Nickleback wont turn out like Creed, but anyways...I kinda miss Scott Stapp, I always had such fun watching his stupidity grow.

oh and if case anyone would wonder why I would buy their albums if I didnt like them, I bought every Nickleback album I have for no more than 3 dollars at the pawn shop.

foofighters7 09-19-06 01:29 PM

Cunger-- you and I aparently are on the same page. I guess I was typing my post while you posted. hehe

argh923 09-19-06 01:30 PM


Originally Posted by freshticles
Sorry, I'm just extremely protective of music. I've devoted every aspect of my life to it. I live in B.C, about an hour from Vancouver and I remember when Chad Kroeger used to play the local bar up here every month and people even laughed at them then. A person I play with is good freinds with the guitarist from T.o.a.d.m and he full out does not like what he does and only does it for the cash. Apparently Chad Kroeger also doesn't think very highly of what he does and just pumps out albums and songs for himself and other bands in the same formula so he can afford that nice mansion he owns in Abbotsford. That's the problem with bands like this. They don't give a shit about their fans and are laughing while people buy their albums knowing damn well there was no effort put into it.

Give me a break. You don't create music without putting any effort into. Quit being so judgmental and presumptious.

You can say "people even laughed at them then", but I'd bet the people that were laughing aren't nearly as successful as the band has become.

Again, elitist attitudes.

Giles 09-19-06 01:39 PM


Originally Posted by zombiezilla
... I'm not a fan of their ballad-type-slow songs, but their heavy stuff is cool...

funny, I do like the ballad slow songs the heavier songs I don't care for.

turborobb 09-19-06 01:48 PM

I'm proud to admit that I'm a hair metal fan... Poison, Warrant, Cinderella, Dokken, Ratt and all the rest... yes I even like Winger, so I can hardly claim to be "elitist". In fact I can kind of relate to Nickleback fans when music snobs crap all over my favorite bands....

but wow, I just don't get Nickleback at all. How does crap like this get on the radio? Not just them but all the sound-alike bands where the guy sings in that annoying mumbling "eerrrr errrrr" Eddie Vedder/Creed type vocals... Staind, Seether, Shinedown, Chevelle, Audioslave and all the other bands on the radio... they are all so boring and dull.

I host Karaoke shows and hardly a night goes by without some dude singing that damn "How You Remind Me" by Nickleback "Yeah-errr Yeah-errr Noo Nooo-eerrr" and these guys think they are such good singers because they can go "eeeerrr errr"

argh923 09-19-06 02:00 PM


Originally Posted by turborobb
I'm proud to admit that I'm a hair metal fan... Poison, Warrant, Cinderella, Dokken, Ratt and all the rest... yes I even like Winger, so I can hardly claim to be "elitist". In fact I can kind of relate to Nickleback fans when music snobs crap all over my favorite bands....

but wow, I just don't get Nickleback at all. How does crap like this get on the radio? Not just them but all the sound-alike bands where the guy sings in that annoying mumbling "eerrrr errrrr" Eddie Vedder/Creed type vocals... Staind, Seether, Shinedown, Chevelle, Audioslave and all the other bands on the radio... they are all so boring and dull.

I host Karaoke shows and hardly a night goes by without some dude singing that damn "How You Remind Me" by Nickleback "Yeah-errr Yeah-errr Noo Nooo-eerrr" and these guys think they are such good singers because they can go "eeeerrr errr"

I'm not calling your type of attitude elitist at all. What's elitist is when people go on a tangent saying "They don't have talent, they don't produce real music" and that's just BS, plain and simple. If they didn't have talent, they wouldn't have a record deal (though there are a few pop singers who are the exception to this rule), and it is music. Just because it's not music that you like doesn't mean it's not music.

I find generally that the elitist attitude comes from music snobs who only like Coldplay or indy music.

freshticles 09-19-06 02:09 PM

I'll bet you everything i own that you can create music with no effort and a basic template...

And about the elitist attitude thing...you cant create a case for it by saying

"If they didn't have talent, they wouldn't have a record deal (though there are a few pop singers who are the exception to this rule), "

....that's a contradicting statement to your argument...didn't you also say

"Just because it's not music that you like doesn't mean it's not music"

....geeze


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