New Dixie Chicks single is here!
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Latest review from EW and Tour info:
http://www.ew.com/ew/article/review/...5_4_0_,00.html
Accidents & Accusations World Tour
Date City Venue
July
21 Detroit, MI Joe Louis Arena
22 Pittsburgh, PA Mellon Arena
23 Columbus, OH Schottenstein Center
25 Philadelphia, PA Wachovia Center
28 Albany, NY Pepsi Arena
29 Boston, MA Banknorth Garden
August
1 New York, NY Madison Square Garden
4 Washington, DC Verizon Center
13 Milwaukee, WI Bradley Center
15 Chicago, IL The United Center
18 Minneapolis, MN Target Center
20 Kansas City, MO Kemper Arena
22 St. Louis, MO Savvis Center
23 Indianapolis, IN Conseco Fieldhouse
24 Des Moines, IA Wells Fargo Arena
26 Fargo, ND Fargodome
September
3 Phoenix, AZ Glendale Arena The best day of 2006!
6 Fresno, CA SaveMart Center
8 Sacramento, CA ARCO Arena
9 Oakland, CA Oakland Arena
14 Los Angeles, CA STAPLES Center
16 Las Vegas, NV Mandalay Bay
23 Omaha, NE Qwest Center
24 Denver, CO Pepsi Center
26 Oklahoma City, OK Ford Center
27 Memphis, TN FedEx Forum
29 Dallas, TX American Airlines Center
30 Houston, TX Toyota Arena
October
1 Austin, TX Frank Irwin Center
3 Nashville, TN Gaylord Entertainment Center
5 Tampa, FL St. Pete Times Forum
6 Jacksonville, FL Veterans Memorial Arena
7 Ft. Lauderdale, FL BankAtlantic Center
17 Atlanta, GA Phillips Arena
20 Knoxville, TN Thompson-Boling Arena
22 Greensboro, NC Greensboro Coliseum
27 Ottawa, Ontario Scotiabank Place
28 Toronto, Ontario Air Canada Centre
November
4 Edmontgon, Alberta Rexall Place
5 Calgary, Alberta Saddledome
8 Vancouver, BC GM Place
9 Portland, OR Rose Garden
11 Tacoma, WA Tacoma Dome
http://www.ew.com/ew/article/review/...5_4_0_,00.html
Reviewed by David Browne
The Dixie Chicks don't wait very long to remind us of the dustup surrounding their Bush-bashing remark of three years ago. On ''The Long Way Around,'' the opening salvo from Taking the Long Way, Natalie Maines recalls the time she ''fought with a stranger'' (Toby Keith?) and admits, ''I could have made it easier on myself.'' The next tune, ''Easy Silence,'' finds her searching for refuge in a world where ''anger plays on every station.'' If you wonder whether they have regrets about the Incident, ''Not Ready to Make Nice'' makes it clear they don't. When Maines gets to the part about all the death threats, her voice rises and the strings well up; it's a true pop-money-shot moment.
Those first songs also demonstrate the Chicks aren't terribly interested in reconciling with red-state country fans. (On ''The Long Way Around,'' Maines cattily sings that her teen friends married their school beaus and now reside ''in the same ZIP codes where their parents live.'' Take that, CMT viewers!) But it's also apparent that the Chicks are thinking outside the Nashville box in more ways than writing defensive lyrics. The album, produced by the ubiquitous Rick Rubin, is a little bit country, a little bit rock & roll — but also a little bit power balladry, alt-country, and roadhouse boogie. Along with the comments that got them into their recent mess, it's the least wimpy thing the group's ever done.
For that, you can also thank a guest roster that makes the album feel like a support-the-Chicks rally. With Neil Finn, they come up with ''Silent House,'' a lovely downer that brings out the best in the trio's layered harmonies; Gary Louris' input gives ''Everybody Knows'' the rainy-day jangle of a song by his band the Jayhawks. The Chicks are unabashedly, gloriously pop on ''Voice Inside My Head,'' penned with unlikely collaborators Dan Wilson (Semisonic) and Linda Perry (Christina Aguilera). Everyone from Bonnie Raitt to John Mayer also pops up, yet the record rarely sounds like an overcrowded party. With Maines projecting more passionately than ever, Taking the Long Way remains intimate and personal; perhaps she should tick people off more often.
The album also rectifies something that's long been confounding about the Dixie Chicks. For all their feistiness and rebel-yell image, their records have been comparatively meek — the work of coffeehouse folkies rather than outlaw-country bad girls. On Taking the Long Way, most of that dichotomy vanishes along with quaint mandolin solos. Finally, they put their music where their opinionated mouths are. Grade: A
(Posted:05/19/06)
The Dixie Chicks don't wait very long to remind us of the dustup surrounding their Bush-bashing remark of three years ago. On ''The Long Way Around,'' the opening salvo from Taking the Long Way, Natalie Maines recalls the time she ''fought with a stranger'' (Toby Keith?) and admits, ''I could have made it easier on myself.'' The next tune, ''Easy Silence,'' finds her searching for refuge in a world where ''anger plays on every station.'' If you wonder whether they have regrets about the Incident, ''Not Ready to Make Nice'' makes it clear they don't. When Maines gets to the part about all the death threats, her voice rises and the strings well up; it's a true pop-money-shot moment.
Those first songs also demonstrate the Chicks aren't terribly interested in reconciling with red-state country fans. (On ''The Long Way Around,'' Maines cattily sings that her teen friends married their school beaus and now reside ''in the same ZIP codes where their parents live.'' Take that, CMT viewers!) But it's also apparent that the Chicks are thinking outside the Nashville box in more ways than writing defensive lyrics. The album, produced by the ubiquitous Rick Rubin, is a little bit country, a little bit rock & roll — but also a little bit power balladry, alt-country, and roadhouse boogie. Along with the comments that got them into their recent mess, it's the least wimpy thing the group's ever done.
For that, you can also thank a guest roster that makes the album feel like a support-the-Chicks rally. With Neil Finn, they come up with ''Silent House,'' a lovely downer that brings out the best in the trio's layered harmonies; Gary Louris' input gives ''Everybody Knows'' the rainy-day jangle of a song by his band the Jayhawks. The Chicks are unabashedly, gloriously pop on ''Voice Inside My Head,'' penned with unlikely collaborators Dan Wilson (Semisonic) and Linda Perry (Christina Aguilera). Everyone from Bonnie Raitt to John Mayer also pops up, yet the record rarely sounds like an overcrowded party. With Maines projecting more passionately than ever, Taking the Long Way remains intimate and personal; perhaps she should tick people off more often.
The album also rectifies something that's long been confounding about the Dixie Chicks. For all their feistiness and rebel-yell image, their records have been comparatively meek — the work of coffeehouse folkies rather than outlaw-country bad girls. On Taking the Long Way, most of that dichotomy vanishes along with quaint mandolin solos. Finally, they put their music where their opinionated mouths are. Grade: A
(Posted:05/19/06)
Accidents & Accusations World Tour
Date City Venue
July
21 Detroit, MI Joe Louis Arena
22 Pittsburgh, PA Mellon Arena
23 Columbus, OH Schottenstein Center
25 Philadelphia, PA Wachovia Center
28 Albany, NY Pepsi Arena
29 Boston, MA Banknorth Garden
August
1 New York, NY Madison Square Garden
4 Washington, DC Verizon Center
13 Milwaukee, WI Bradley Center
15 Chicago, IL The United Center
18 Minneapolis, MN Target Center
20 Kansas City, MO Kemper Arena
22 St. Louis, MO Savvis Center
23 Indianapolis, IN Conseco Fieldhouse
24 Des Moines, IA Wells Fargo Arena
26 Fargo, ND Fargodome
September
3 Phoenix, AZ Glendale Arena The best day of 2006!
6 Fresno, CA SaveMart Center
8 Sacramento, CA ARCO Arena
9 Oakland, CA Oakland Arena
14 Los Angeles, CA STAPLES Center
16 Las Vegas, NV Mandalay Bay
23 Omaha, NE Qwest Center
24 Denver, CO Pepsi Center
26 Oklahoma City, OK Ford Center
27 Memphis, TN FedEx Forum
29 Dallas, TX American Airlines Center
30 Houston, TX Toyota Arena
October
1 Austin, TX Frank Irwin Center
3 Nashville, TN Gaylord Entertainment Center
5 Tampa, FL St. Pete Times Forum
6 Jacksonville, FL Veterans Memorial Arena
7 Ft. Lauderdale, FL BankAtlantic Center
17 Atlanta, GA Phillips Arena
20 Knoxville, TN Thompson-Boling Arena
22 Greensboro, NC Greensboro Coliseum
27 Ottawa, Ontario Scotiabank Place
28 Toronto, Ontario Air Canada Centre
November
4 Edmontgon, Alberta Rexall Place
5 Calgary, Alberta Saddledome
8 Vancouver, BC GM Place
9 Portland, OR Rose Garden
11 Tacoma, WA Tacoma Dome
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Even though I love the first single, it looks like it didn't do much on the charts, and they have already started pushing their second single, "Everybody Knows". "Not Ready To Make Nice" topped out at #35 on the Billboard Country Charts.
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Just FYI, according to the Sunday inset, there will be an exclusive bonus track available at Best Buy only. It will be on sale for $9.99 Tues. It's $8.99 at Circuit City, so a price match should be possible. Strangely enough, the bestbuy.com website does not mention the bonus track (but does offer free shipping on the cd). It's enough to get me to cancel my previous Amazon preorder to get a bonus song.
Also, Target is apparently giving a way to get early access for concert ticket purchase with the CD. Don't know if it's an individual access code or just a website address....
Also, Target is apparently giving a way to get early access for concert ticket purchase with the CD. Don't know if it's an individual access code or just a website address....
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Dixie Chick takes back apology to Bush
NEW YORK (AP) - The Dixie Chicks' Natalie Maines apologized for disrespecting President George W. Bush during a London concert in 2003. But now, she's taking it back.
"I don't feel that way anymore," she told Time magazine for its issue hitting newsstands Monday. "I don't feel he is owed any respect whatsoever."
As war in Iraq loomed, Maines told the London audience: "Just so you know, we're ashamed that the president of the United States is from Texas."
The remarks led to death threats and a backlash from other country stars, including a high-profile spat with Toby Keith. It also stalled what until then had been the group's smashingly successful career.
Bandmate Emily Robinson said she knew right away the remark wouldn't be taken lightly and got "hot from my head to my toes."
"It wasn't that I didn't agree with her 100 per cent; it was just, 'Oh, this is going to stir something up,' " she told Time.
For band member Martie Maguire, the controversy was a blessing in disguise.
"I'd rather have a small following of really cool people who get it, who will grow with us as we grow and are fans for life, than people that have us in their five-disc changer with Reba McEntire and Toby Keith," Maguire said. "We don't want those kinds of fans. They limit what you can do."
The Chicks' hits include Landslide, Goodbye Earl and Wide Open Spaces. Their new album, Taking the Long Way, is due out May 23. The first single is Not Ready to Make Nice.
NEW YORK (AP) - The Dixie Chicks' Natalie Maines apologized for disrespecting President George W. Bush during a London concert in 2003. But now, she's taking it back.
"I don't feel that way anymore," she told Time magazine for its issue hitting newsstands Monday. "I don't feel he is owed any respect whatsoever."
As war in Iraq loomed, Maines told the London audience: "Just so you know, we're ashamed that the president of the United States is from Texas."
The remarks led to death threats and a backlash from other country stars, including a high-profile spat with Toby Keith. It also stalled what until then had been the group's smashingly successful career.
Bandmate Emily Robinson said she knew right away the remark wouldn't be taken lightly and got "hot from my head to my toes."
"It wasn't that I didn't agree with her 100 per cent; it was just, 'Oh, this is going to stir something up,' " she told Time.
For band member Martie Maguire, the controversy was a blessing in disguise.
"I'd rather have a small following of really cool people who get it, who will grow with us as we grow and are fans for life, than people that have us in their five-disc changer with Reba McEntire and Toby Keith," Maguire said. "We don't want those kinds of fans. They limit what you can do."
The Chicks' hits include Landslide, Goodbye Earl and Wide Open Spaces. Their new album, Taking the Long Way, is due out May 23. The first single is Not Ready to Make Nice.
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"I'd rather have a small following of really cool people who get it, who will grow with us as we grow and are fans for life, than people that have us in their five-disc changer with Reba McEntire and Toby Keith," Maguire said. "We don't want those kinds of fans. They limit what you can do."
Regardless, their new CD is in the mail and I can't wait to check it out. Their music has never let me down before.
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The Chicks grace the cover of Time.
A link to the article:
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/ar...196020,00.html
A link to the article:
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/ar...196020,00.html
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Country radio disses Dixie Chicks
http://www.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/Musi...eut/index.html
The whole backlash really pisses me off. Yes, the demographic for contemporary country is primarily racist, patriotic rednecks, but still. And refusing to play their song because they don't want to be part of the industry, any more? Neither did Willie Nelson. Maybe it's time they come back home to Texas and move down to Austin like Willie did. He seemed to find a following there after Nashville had rejected him.
NASHVILLE, Tennessee (Billboard) -- Disappointing airplay for the first two singles from the new album by the Dixie Chicks exposes a deep -- and seemingly growing -- rift between the trio and the country radio market that helped turn the group into superstars.
"Taking the Long Way," due out May 23, is the band's first album since singer Natalie Maines sparked a major controversy in 2003 by declaring that she was ashamed to hail from the same state as fellow Texan President George W. Bush. Radio boycotts ensued, and many fans abandoned the band.
The first single, "Not Ready to Make Nice," peaked at No. 36 on Billboard's Hot Country Songs chart, beginning its descent after just seven weeks. The second single, "Everybody Knows," is now at No. 50, down two places in its fourth week.
"Not Ready to Make Nice" performed only slightly better at adult contemporary radio, peaking at No. 32 on the AC chart and falling off after six weeks.
From the beginning of the album rollout, the Dixie Chicks were eager that their songs be worked to radio formats beyond country. The album was produced by rock veteran Rick Rubin, whose credits include the Red Hot Chili Peppers, System of a Down and Johnny Cash. (Read Time magazine cover story.)
By picking the defiant "Not Ready" as the first single, they've reopened a wound that was particularly deep for country radio fans, and left many country programmers with the burning question: Why on earth would the band choose to do this?
After hearing the album, WKIS Miami program director Bob Barnett says he was "excited about the opportunity to introduce some great Chicks music to the listeners." But the group's decision to come with "Not Ready" as the lead single left him "stunned, especially in light of the fact that, when asked, programmers and consultants that listened to the project were virtually unanimous in saying we should put the politics behind us and concentrate on all this other great music we were hearing."
KUBL/KKAT Salt Lake City PD Ed Hill criticizes the song's "self-indulgent and selfish lyrics."
Barnett played the song for a week, but pulled it after listeners called to say it sounded like the Chicks were "gloating" or "rubbing our noses in it," he reports. "We didn't need to pick at the scab any longer."
He and other country programmers were upset that the group chose to launch its new album with a single that rehashed all the angst of three years ago.
The two singles have had a striking lack of impact at radio, considering the band's history. Between 1997 and 2003, it notched 14 top 10 country singles, including six No. 1 hits. In addition to eight Grammy Awards, the group has won 10 Country Music Assn. Awards and eight Academy of Country Music Awards. The trio has sold 23.4 million albums in the United States, according to Nielsen SoundScan.
The Dixie Chicks and reps from their label, Columbia Records, declined to participate in this story. But -- at least as far as Maines is concerned -- the drop-off at country radio was part of its plan.
Maines was quoted in late January on EW.com, before the single went to country radio, saying: "For me to be in country music to begin with was not who I was ... I would be cheating myself ... to go back to something that I don't wholeheartedly believe in. So I'm pretty much done. They've shown their true colors. I like lots of country music, but as far as the industry and everything that happened ... I couldn't want to be farther away from that."
Maines also said, "I don't want people to think that me not wanting to be part of country music is any sort of revenge. It is not. It is totally me being who I am, and not wanting to compromise myself and hate my life."
At KNCI Sacramento, California, the Chicks' music weathered the 2003 controversy only to be pulled as a result of Maines' new Entertainment Weekly comments, coupled with poor scores in local music tests.
"When an artist says that they don't want to be a part of that industry, it made our decision a no-brainer," program director Mark Evans says. "There are too many talented new artists dying to have a song played on country radio, so I'd rather give one of them a shot."
"Taking the Long Way," due out May 23, is the band's first album since singer Natalie Maines sparked a major controversy in 2003 by declaring that she was ashamed to hail from the same state as fellow Texan President George W. Bush. Radio boycotts ensued, and many fans abandoned the band.
The first single, "Not Ready to Make Nice," peaked at No. 36 on Billboard's Hot Country Songs chart, beginning its descent after just seven weeks. The second single, "Everybody Knows," is now at No. 50, down two places in its fourth week.
"Not Ready to Make Nice" performed only slightly better at adult contemporary radio, peaking at No. 32 on the AC chart and falling off after six weeks.
From the beginning of the album rollout, the Dixie Chicks were eager that their songs be worked to radio formats beyond country. The album was produced by rock veteran Rick Rubin, whose credits include the Red Hot Chili Peppers, System of a Down and Johnny Cash. (Read Time magazine cover story.)
By picking the defiant "Not Ready" as the first single, they've reopened a wound that was particularly deep for country radio fans, and left many country programmers with the burning question: Why on earth would the band choose to do this?
After hearing the album, WKIS Miami program director Bob Barnett says he was "excited about the opportunity to introduce some great Chicks music to the listeners." But the group's decision to come with "Not Ready" as the lead single left him "stunned, especially in light of the fact that, when asked, programmers and consultants that listened to the project were virtually unanimous in saying we should put the politics behind us and concentrate on all this other great music we were hearing."
KUBL/KKAT Salt Lake City PD Ed Hill criticizes the song's "self-indulgent and selfish lyrics."
Barnett played the song for a week, but pulled it after listeners called to say it sounded like the Chicks were "gloating" or "rubbing our noses in it," he reports. "We didn't need to pick at the scab any longer."
He and other country programmers were upset that the group chose to launch its new album with a single that rehashed all the angst of three years ago.
The two singles have had a striking lack of impact at radio, considering the band's history. Between 1997 and 2003, it notched 14 top 10 country singles, including six No. 1 hits. In addition to eight Grammy Awards, the group has won 10 Country Music Assn. Awards and eight Academy of Country Music Awards. The trio has sold 23.4 million albums in the United States, according to Nielsen SoundScan.
The Dixie Chicks and reps from their label, Columbia Records, declined to participate in this story. But -- at least as far as Maines is concerned -- the drop-off at country radio was part of its plan.
Maines was quoted in late January on EW.com, before the single went to country radio, saying: "For me to be in country music to begin with was not who I was ... I would be cheating myself ... to go back to something that I don't wholeheartedly believe in. So I'm pretty much done. They've shown their true colors. I like lots of country music, but as far as the industry and everything that happened ... I couldn't want to be farther away from that."
Maines also said, "I don't want people to think that me not wanting to be part of country music is any sort of revenge. It is not. It is totally me being who I am, and not wanting to compromise myself and hate my life."
At KNCI Sacramento, California, the Chicks' music weathered the 2003 controversy only to be pulled as a result of Maines' new Entertainment Weekly comments, coupled with poor scores in local music tests.
"When an artist says that they don't want to be a part of that industry, it made our decision a no-brainer," program director Mark Evans says. "There are too many talented new artists dying to have a song played on country radio, so I'd rather give one of them a shot."
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One interesting thing about this song, from the politics angle, is that it is a very different political climate now. People in general are not nearly as supportive of the war, and therefore might be more receptive to them and their message now, as opposed to 3 years ago.
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You know, I always dismissed these gals as typical prepackaged country crap, but this is a gutsy move. I'm tempted to check out their new CD just out of respect for them having some principles.
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Originally Posted by chess
You know, I always dismissed these gals as typical prepackaged country crap, but this is a gutsy move. I'm tempted to check out their new CD just out of respect for them having some principles. 

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Hey, all I know is I wanted to bang the fat one waaaay before they got all "controversial". I still do.
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Evidently not.
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Hey, all I know is I wanted to bang the fat one waaaay before they got all "controversial". I still do. 

That said, I'm glad that you wanted to bang her, despite thinking of her that way.
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Originally Posted by Giantrobo
Hey, all I know is I wanted to bang the fat one waaaay before they got all "controversial". I still do. 

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You might want to hold off on that conclusion until you see the cd sales and what the country audience does once the Chicks move past "Not Ready To Make Nice".
I think the CD will sell pretty well when it's all said and done.
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The whole backlash really pisses me off. Yes, the demographic for contemporary country is primarily racist, patriotic rednecks, but still. And refusing to play their song because they don't want to be part of the industry, any more? Neither did Willie Nelson. Maybe it's time they come back home to Texas and move down to Austin like Willie did. He seemed to find a following there after Nashville had rejected him.
Martie's comments are far more annoying to me as a fan than anything Natalie is going to say politically. When it boils down to who listens to you, why tell people who may not care one way or another about the politics to get lost just to prove a point to the people who do? I appreciate their disappoinment and what they've gone through, but they really need to get over themselves and remember that there are millions of fans who don't want to be bothered with "getting it" and just want to listen to the freakin' music.
I'm sick of hearing about who takes back what apology, which stations got rubbed the wrong way by what, and all of this political bullshit and I wish everyone would let it go and do whatever the hell they want. But I have half a mind to buy this CD and a few from shitty Nashville hit factory hacks, put them all in my changer, and see if I get a letter in the mail.
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Originally Posted by Mad Dawg
To name a few, Willie, Waylon, Haggard, Kristofferson, Cash, and, for a while, George Jones, all bucked (or some would say were bucked by) the Nashvile establishment and had success. The important part of that is that it was about the establishment. They may have made musical choices that alienated some fans, but I can't remember a point at which they all took themselves so seriously that they told the people who made up their fan base "If you don't get us, don't listen" or "If we're going to share your CD changer with country artists we disapprove of, don't bother."
Martie's comments are far more annoying to me as a fan than anything Natalie is going to say politically. When it boils down to who listens to you, why tell people who may not care one way or another about the politics to get lost just to prove a point to the people who do? I appreciate their disappoinment and what they've gone through, but they really need to get over themselves and remember that there are millions of fans who don't want to be bothered with "getting it" and just want to listen to the freakin' music.
I'm sick of hearing about who takes back what apology, which stations got rubbed the wrong way by what, and all of this political bullshit and I wish everyone would let it go and do whatever the hell they want. But I have half a mind to buy this CD and a few from shitty Nashville hit factory hacks, put them all in my changer, and see if I get a letter in the mail.
Martie's comments are far more annoying to me as a fan than anything Natalie is going to say politically. When it boils down to who listens to you, why tell people who may not care one way or another about the politics to get lost just to prove a point to the people who do? I appreciate their disappoinment and what they've gone through, but they really need to get over themselves and remember that there are millions of fans who don't want to be bothered with "getting it" and just want to listen to the freakin' music.
I'm sick of hearing about who takes back what apology, which stations got rubbed the wrong way by what, and all of this political bullshit and I wish everyone would let it go and do whatever the hell they want. But I have half a mind to buy this CD and a few from shitty Nashville hit factory hacks, put them all in my changer, and see if I get a letter in the mail.
I respect your opinion and even agree with 50% of it, but you spent a fair amount of time articulating how you feel and your frustration with some of the things the Chicks have said and done, but you live in Houston.
So, have you taken a equal amount of time to write your local country stations and let them know that you're displeased with their ongoing boycotts or all the negative comments that are still being made by these jokers who decided to ban the Chicks for expressing an opinion?
One person in the country music world who has been very fair to the Chicks lately, is the head of CMT. He's gone out of his way to be very sensitive to both sides. But other than that, you get the typical hateful, brain dead comments from hundreds of GMs who won't play "Not Ready To Make Nice".
Please read the lyrics and tell me what is offensive about the song. It's a very fair song and you would think people might understand how they feel a little bit. Especially since these country stations were organizing rallies to burn and destroy Chicks cds and encouraging the crazies out there to want to make threats. And they really want to say the Chicks shouldn't be picking at the scabs? Seems pretty hypocritical to me.
The same guy at CMT who's been fair, has actually done focus groups with the fans and says the responses show that MOST of the fans would have been ok with Natalie's "silly" remark (and that's all it was) had it not been done on foreign soil and that the Chicks were cowardly to say it outside of the US.
That's just such bullsh*t. First of all, the comment was made in England. As far as foreign policy goes, the UK might as well just be another state in the union. England is our best ally and a PARTNER in the Iraq war. The whole "foreign soil" issue was politically driven, like most of the whole radio boycotts and cd burnings, to almost imply that the comment in England was like saying the same thing in the Middle East.
The fans in these focus groups stated it would have been ok if Natalie had said what she did, here, in the US. Really? You don't think if she said it in LA or NY, it would have been pretty much the same and, instead of foreign soil, it would have been about red and blue states? AND, if she had said it in front of a friendly crowd in Texas, if you've been to a Chicks concert or any concert, those are your biggest supporters. So, she might have got some boos. So, I just find all of this sickening and I always have.
I do agree that some of the redneck comments are probably best not said right now and the ones about sharing a cd player with other country artists was probably not constructive. But, remember, NOT one single country artist stood up for them in the slightest and it's not like Shania and Faith haven't had similar problems, much smaller mind you, for daring to make music that strayed too far away from country. I would be pissed at them too. The world of any other music genre doesn't always agree. Can you imagine 100% of rock artists or rap artists completely agreeing with each other on an issue like this? Yet Reba and Toby bashed them when the war looked like a "better" idea and now that it's not looking so good, they remain quiet.
And, if YOU, personally, enjoy the music, then all the rhetoric in the world shouldn't change anything. We hear this stuff in magazines and on tv and if it wasn't about this it would be about some other stupid story like Britney nearly killing her baby every 3 or 4 days.
Even people we really like a lot (and I love the Chicks) make mistakes, say the wrong things, and have feelings which sometimes get in the way of their common sense. I just try and listen to understand how they feel, even if I don't agree with everything. I know they're already set for life, but I can't imagine how awful it must have been to go through what they did.
Deep down, I think they care about their country fans and all their fans, but I just can't blame them right now for not being able to forgive that level or hate and, to be honest, it seems like a lot more of those same fans are a lot more hateful and a lot less ready to make nice than the Chicks.
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Originally Posted by dolphinboy
She's not even close to being fat.
That said, I'm glad that you wanted to bang her, despite thinking of her that way.
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It's be a shame if country fans and country radio choose to ignore this release because this may be their best album yet. I had to oppurtunity to listen to all 61 minutes of it this afternoon and it is really good.
I haven't purchased a country CD in years only purchase about 10 CD's a year (at the store anyway), but I'll be picking this up tomorrow because its that good. Check it out for yourself http://music.aol.com/songs/new_releases_full_cds
I haven't purchased a country CD in years only purchase about 10 CD's a year (at the store anyway), but I'll be picking this up tomorrow because its that good. Check it out for yourself http://music.aol.com/songs/new_releases_full_cds
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Originally Posted by dolphinboy
I respect your opinion and even agree with 50% of it, but you spent a fair amount of time articulating how you feel and your frustration with some of the things the Chicks have said and done, but you live in Houston.
So, have you taken a equal amount of time to write your local country stations and let them know that you're displeased with their ongoing boycotts or all the negative comments that are still being made by these jokers who decided to ban the Chicks for expressing an opinion?
So, have you taken a equal amount of time to write your local country stations and let them know that you're displeased with their ongoing boycotts or all the negative comments that are still being made by these jokers who decided to ban the Chicks for expressing an opinion?



