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BDB 11-08-05 03:16 PM

he is certainly a divisive force here.
I think there is no redemption.

pro-bassoonist 11-08-05 03:23 PM

Edit:

1. Aphex Twin
2. maxfisher
3. Flynn
4. BadlyDrawnBoy
5. illennium
7. DJLinus
8. Damfino
6-Gilles

It is complete now.....

Ciao,
Pro-B

Canis Firebrand 11-08-05 03:24 PM

Thanks Pro-B for the vote for me.. Sadly it won't count. :(

You have to vote for each pair to have any votes count.

Flynn, BDB and Giles suffer as well from not getting those votes.

auto 11-08-05 03:28 PM


Originally Posted by ryuryu2949
Ok, I am getting killed because I picked a live Dave Matthews album. I need to defend this pronto...

To be fair, that is a great album. Tim Reynolds' guitar work on it is extraordinary.

But, does it deserve to be on your list: no

ryuryu2949 11-08-05 03:28 PM

Aphex Twin[/b] vs. ryuryu2949

Aphex Twin
1. The Beatles: Rubber Soul
2. Miles Davis: Kind of Blue
3. The Jimi Hendrix Experience [box set]
4. My Bloody Valentine: Loveless
5. Massive Attack: Blue Lines
6. Nas: Illimatic
7. Boards of Canada: Music Has The Right To Children
8. John Coltrane: A Love Supreme
9. Built to Spill: Keep It Like a Secret
10. Aphex Twin: Richard D James Album
ryuryu2949
1. The Beatles: Ultimate Box Set [box set]
2. Guns N' Roses: Appetite for Destruction
3. 2Pac: All Eyez On Me
4. Wilco: Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
5. Weezer: Weezer ("Blue Album") (Deluxe Edition)
6. Beck: Odelay
7. A Tribe Called Quest: The Low End Theory
8. Dave Matthews and Tim Reynolds: Live at Luther College
9. Bob Marley: Legend
10. Goldie: Timeless



Ok, now for a defense of the entire matchup. I really like Aphex's picks. I don't really know Board's of Canada, but the rest of his picks are all good, if not great.

I say vote for me for two reasons. First, my picks "rock" harder. Sure, you can get down a bit to Hendrix, but other than that, the rest of the picks (aside from Rubber Soul, which IS IN my boxset) are all very mellow. Nothing like GnR or Weezer.

Second, I think his album selection is missing a crucial era: mid-late 90s music, which I think is wholly underrated. I have got Weezer, Beck, Wilco, and Pac; he has Aphex Twin, which is its own unique genre.

My overall assessment:

- You can cancel (or give me a slight edge) when combining his picks of Rubber Soul (Beatles) and Hendrix (box/pioneer black musician who died too early) with my Beatles box (Beatles/box) and Marley (pioneer black musician who died too early).
- Cancel out (or give him a slight edge) the Massive Attack and Goldie picks).
- Cancel out (or give him a very slight advantage) the duplicative jazz (Miles and Coltrane) and his Nas pick with my hip hop picks (the monumental 2pac album and the very jazzy Tribe album).
- Give me a HUGE advantage on the rock-ish picks, GnR and Weezer vs. My Bloody Valentine and Built to Spill. Huge.
- Give me a big advantage with the esoteric and genre bending Beck vs. a similarly themed Boards of Canada.
- Left with the acoustic Dave Matthews album vs. a good Aphex Twin album--not really a compatible matchup, but I would concede that one.

Just my thoughts on this. Good luck this round.

digitalfreaknyc 11-08-05 03:29 PM

1. Aphex
2. Maxfisher
3. Cdollaz
4. Badly
5. Vryce
6. Giles
7. DJlinus
8. Damfino

digitalfreaknyc 11-08-05 03:30 PM


Originally Posted by pro-bassoonist
3-Flynn
4-Badly Drawn Boy
5-Vryce
6-Gilles

the rest....I don't care for..

Ciao,
Pro-B

you picked all the gay ones ;)

Canis Firebrand 11-08-05 03:31 PM

Hmmm.. learn something new every day...

digitalfreaknyc 11-08-05 03:31 PM


Originally Posted by ryuryu2949
Ok, I am getting killed because I picked a live Dave Matthews album. I need to defend this pronto.

Anyone with DMB on their list loses a vote from me. Nails on a chalkboard, that man's voice is.

auto 11-08-05 03:31 PM


Originally Posted by Vryce
No.. I didn't edit my original vote post... I quoted it to explain my picks.

If you look at my post with my votes, there is no edits.

I know its already figured out. But I just got back from and eye exam and missed the last couple pages.

I did waht others did. Quoted their votes to give explanations.

But my original post with my votes never changed.

Sorry you lost auto, but it was a close race. Very good pick of 10 albums you had.



Sorry for the confusion Vyrce. Things got a little crazy there for a second. :lol:

Your "explanation" post threw me off because I was counting and re-counting the votes over and over again. I should have remembred that you voted first!

Good luck buddy. :)

Canis Firebrand 11-08-05 03:34 PM


Originally Posted by ryuryu2949
Ok, I am getting killed because I picked a live Dave Matthews album. I need to defend this pronto.
http://keviniki.blogspirit.com/list/...matthews.3.jpg

I really liked both of your lists. Where you lost my vote was 2Pac and DM... GnR brought some sway to you, but not enough to counter 2Pac and DM.

BDB 11-08-05 03:35 PM


Originally Posted by Vryce
Hmmm.. learn something new every day...

'the gays' are taking over the world, I guess its time to get on board with them.


;)

Canis Firebrand 11-08-05 03:35 PM


Originally Posted by auto
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Sorry for the confusion Vyrce. Things got a little crazy there for a second. :lol:

Your "explanation" post threw me off because I was counting and re-counting the votes over and over again. I should have remembred that you voted first!

Good luck buddy. :)

NP auto.. I came in after it was all figured out. Just wanted to make my post on it in that thread.

Looks like I'll be joining you and others from Round 1 on the sidelines shortly. I'm down a few votes at this point, and don't think I can come from behind. In our round 1 race, I held a lead of 1 or two votes. And every vote you got, I got one in return. That helped propell me to Round 2.

But it was a very good race.

ryuryu2949 11-08-05 03:42 PM

1- ryuryu2949 (of course! again, please don't overlook the Dave Matthews and Tim Reynolds acoustic album)
2- maxfisher (a great live album [queen] and my favorite group [pink floyd] gets max the nod)
3- flynn (Travis is a great pick, as is Floyd, Pumpkins, and Dave Matthews (lol))
4- badlydrawnboy (best overall matchup, and very tight)
5- vryce (Floyd, billie, and Portishead is a heck of a 1-2-3... maybe one of the favorites to win it all)
6- jimdrix (revolver and who's next, two of the best albums released before I was born)
7- cleaver (simply a 'who's who' of 20th Century music)
8-mordred (random thought: someone should mash-up Michael Jackson and metallica--might be weird enough to be good).

Ok, and I promise to not edit this for fear of my vote being disqualified.

Hollowgen 11-08-05 03:42 PM

1. Aphex Twin - voted for this list because it's more music geeky. and i am one.
2. maxfisher - still has more of my fav albums than the opponent.
3. cdollaz - same reasoning as first round.
4. Lokimok - same. even though i just can't dig rid of me like her other works.
5. illenium - less pop, more challenge.
6. jimdrix - you're lucky you're not going against purple rain. :)
7. DJLinus - same as before.
8. Damfino - i love the score.

ryuryu2949 11-08-05 03:43 PM


Originally Posted by Vryce
Hmmm.. learn something new every day...

? what is this referring to?

Canis Firebrand 11-08-05 03:43 PM


Originally Posted by ryuryu2949
? what is this referring to?


It was referring to digital saying that pro-b's votes of voting for all the gays.

Hollowgen 11-08-05 03:44 PM

p.s. i don't dig the tiebreaker. not because i lost, but because it doesn't seem like everyone (including myself) was able to participate, or even know it existed due to having to work on a weekday morn.

Canis Firebrand 11-08-05 03:46 PM

I thought that too Hollowegen.. It was only open for an hour. I was away and I'm sure others missed it as well. I think mabe a little more time would have been necessary. It would have delayed round 2 though. So not sure what the optimal solution would have been.

cleaver 11-08-05 04:10 PM

1. ryuryu2949 - Hello? Complete Beatles?
2. maxfisher - Hello? Complete Pink Floyd?
3. Flynn - More stuff I like; I was looking at Siamese Dream and Wish You Were Here
4. BadlyDrawnBoy - Ten is the best rock album since the 70s IMO
5. Vryce - Similar to my collection but he votes against me in everything every round
6. jimdrix - Hello? Revolver?
7. cleaver
8. Mordred - Tough matchup, but Mordred should be a favorite, but this is so random

I'm not going to go pick by pick and say how great every one of my albums are. I'm gonna go artist by artist.
My 2 favorite guitarrists - Hendrix & Page
Dominant west coast producer of last 20 years - Dr. Dre
Dominant east coast producer of last 20 years - RZA
Who I consider the 3 dominant rock bands. - The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, Led Zep
The greatest songwriter - Paul Simon
I would argue every album I took represents the artists' opus
My favorite songs - Stairway, CREAM, Into the Mystic, The Boxer, Angel, Nothin' But a G Thing, Purple Haze, You Can't Always Get what you Want, Day in the Life, and Pusherman to name a few

I hope I'm not losing points because I didn't draft anything esoteric.

illennium 11-08-05 04:11 PM

Do NOT edit your posts, people. Hiro11 edited his post on the first page, so now I and a bunch of others lose a vote.

Canis Firebrand 11-08-05 04:16 PM


Originally Posted by cleaver
5. Vryce - Similar to my collection but he votes against me in everything every round

I do like your collection.. But with DJLinus having James - Laid and The Cure - Disintigration.. it made it a little easier..

Zep and The Beatles helped, but Wu Tang and De. Dre knocked you down. In my eyes.

Just the luck of the draw. I do feel you have a strong draft collection though.

Canis Firebrand 11-08-05 04:17 PM


Originally Posted by illennium
Do NOT edit your posts, people. Hiro11 edited his post on the first page, so now I and a bunch of others lose a vote.

The Bus edited as well. So even more people lost votes. :(

Oh.. I see that the post he edited was predictions.. confused me...

illennium 11-08-05 04:27 PM

1. Aphex Twin. MVP: My Bloody Valentine, Massive Attack. LVP: Dave Matthews.

2. ChrisKnudsen. Very tough call. MVP: T. Rex, Neutral Milk Hotel, Magnetic Fields. LVP: Slayer, U2.

3. cdollaz. OK Computer destroys The Bends in my book, and Flynn has a lot of weak Britpop. MVP: Frank Black, Elvis Costello. LVP: U2, Dave Matthews Band.

4. BadlyDrawnBoy. Tough call. BDB's list hurts him more than that of his competitor, but ultimately that Jam set carries him. MVP: The Jam, Joy Division. LVP: U2, Chili Peppers.

5. illennium. Vryce may very well take this one. His list has some serious top 40 power as well as some appeals to the older voters. Good luck to him.

6. Giles. MVP: The Chemicals, DJ Shadow. LVP: Elton John.

7. DJLinus. If I were stuck on a desert island with cleaver's collection, I'd have nothing to listen to, as I already know the albums too well. They're great, but DJLinus' list is more challenging. MVP: The Flaming Lips, Pulp. LVP: James (not Helmet!).

8. Damfino. I'm a music geek; I follow the Youth. MVP: Sonic Youth, The Stones. LVP: Vaughan, Opeth.

maxfisher 11-08-05 04:30 PM


Originally Posted by pro-bassoonist
3-Flynn
4-Badly Drawn Boy
5-Vryce
6-Gilles

the rest....I don't care for..

Ciao,
Pro-B

As others have pointed out, this currently won't count as a vote, as the rules state you have to vote on every matchup. There's no rule that all your votes have to be in the same post though, so you could conceivably do a second post with 1, 2, 7 and 8. Not sure if auto would count that, but thought I'd throw it out.


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