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glasschicken 09-16-05 12:31 PM

Nirvana - Best of the Box
 
Didn't see this anywhere so here it is:

September 14 & 15, 2005
From the website MusicTAP: "Geffen Records plan a 'best of' set coming from Nirvana's Box. The best of the best will be known as Sliver - The Best of The Box and will issue forth on November 1." This appears to be the "rarities" album which was planned for a 2005 release as part of the legal settlement between Courtney and the Krist/Dave camp a few years back.

Exclusive details: The album contains 19 essential tracks from the box set (2004's "With The Lights Out") as well as three previously unreleased songs from the vaults. Which unreleased songs these might be, I don't know yet. Apparently, the results of a poll conducted by this website last month was indeed taken into consideration when the release was compiled. In the poll, Nirvana fans could vote for their favorite songs from the box set as well as vote for their most wanted unreleased recording.



-This is from www.nirvanaclub.com

Gunshy 09-16-05 12:34 PM

:down: for reissuing previously issued material for quick bank.

:up: for any as yet unreleased rare material.

-Gunshy

cdollaz 09-16-05 12:53 PM

3 new songs? That's ridiculous. I hope people download the hell out of those 3 songs and do not buy the album.

The Antipodean 09-16-05 05:01 PM

Son of a bitch.

On the other hand, I found the box set kind of unfulfilling and bloated, so I might ebay mine and pick this up.

UAIOE 09-16-05 11:14 PM

I don't think i've listened to the boxset more than twice.

I really thought there would be alot more unreleased songs instead of a few discs worth of demo material.

I'll agree that it was bloated.

Rypro 525 09-16-05 11:40 PM

eh it depends on what this contains. I haven't had the time to pick up the box, but the dvd of rare performances seems key.

Also, if this was released first, or they took out some of the "so called" longer demos and what not, everyone would complain
fan: why wasn't "so and so" on the new nirvana box
record company: it was too long and we wanted to conserve space.
fan: well fuck that then, give me all or none.

Decker 09-17-05 10:42 AM


Originally Posted by cdollaz
3 new songs? That's ridiculous. I hope people download the hell out of those 3 songs and do not buy the album.

Wait, let me get this straight. A major artist gets fans to shell out big bucks for a box set of unreleased material and then, less than a year later, releases a single CD compilation with THREE NEW SONGS that essentially screws over their fans. Where have I heard that before? :hscratch:

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0...CLZZZZZZZ_.jpg http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0...CLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

Hollowgen 09-17-05 12:37 PM

i wonder if it's the artist's decision or the label's to screw over fans?

Rypro 525 09-17-05 05:06 PM

or no. 3, Courtney wants to release this to help support her drug habbit.

auto 09-17-05 08:07 PM

I'll wait for more details.

The Antipodean 09-20-05 06:46 PM

Dang, you can't even sell the original box set on eBay for $15 or so... I may just keep it and skip this other set. Either way, feeling rather screwed over by the whole deal. Bah humbug.

Jason 09-20-05 08:02 PM


Originally Posted by Hollowgen
i wonder if it's the artist's decision or the label's to screw over fans?

Well, I doubt it was Kurt's idea. He said the fans need another compilation album like they need a hole in the head.

Hollowgen 09-20-05 08:22 PM


Originally Posted by Jason
Well, I doubt it was Kurt's idea. He said the fans need another compilation album like they need a hole in the head.

:lol:

Josh H 09-20-05 11:37 PM


Originally Posted by Rypro 525
eh it depends on what this contains. I haven't had the time to pick up the box, but the dvd of rare performances seems key.

The DVD is nothing special. It's neat to see them playing in one of their parents house when they were first getting started, and some of the other old stuff.

But most of the video was shot with a camcorder, so the pic and sound quality is pretty bad, so it's not something you watch repeatedly. I've only watched it once since getting it last fall.

lukewarmwater 09-21-05 12:03 AM

It could be worse they could release two unreleased songs on the disc and one internet exclusive song like every other fucking artist.

And yeah I hope people download the hell out of those three songs.

Hollowgen 09-21-05 10:29 AM

as cool as the box set is/was, i rarely find myself wanting to listen to any of the material save for nostalgic moments. there's no reason i'd want this crappy disc. i've been collecting the bootlegs for years.

dvd_luver 09-21-05 10:43 AM

Got to hand it to them for screwing the fans like this, really it's f**kin b**shit. Anybody who buys this and has the box set already, I would feel really bad for. I have the box set and as much of a fan as I am, no. not for 3 unreleased tracks. It's just not enough to warrant a repurchase.

And yes, I hope fans download the crap out of these 3 songs and hold off on the box set if they already have it! That way, fan and greedy label can screw eachother.

nodeerforamonth 09-21-05 12:08 PM


Originally Posted by Josh Hinkle
The DVD is nothing special. It's neat to see them playing in one of their parents house when they were first getting started, and some of the other old stuff.

Nothing special?!??! Nothing special?!?!? The rehearsal has never been seen before! And if I remember correctly, it's about 25 minutes! It's not just a little clip. Much of the other stuff on the DVD has never been seen before too! ("Seasons In The Sun")

Just out of curiousity, what would have made it more special?!?!?

glasschicken 09-21-05 12:59 PM

A mini update from www.nirvanaclub.com:

Rolling Stone has confirmed the release of Sliver and even reports that Frances Bean helped choose the title and cover art: "Three previously unreleased Nirvana songs will surface November 1st when Geffen/Universal issue Sliver, a compilation of Nirvana rarities and demos. The twenty-two-track CD will be rounded out with material from With the Lights Out, the Nirvana box set released last November. Sliver marks the first time Frances Bean Cobain, the thirteen-year-old daughter of late Nirvana frontman Kurt Cobain and rocker Courtney Love, has taken an active role in her father's legacy. 'We're pulling Frances into the family business,' Love told Rolling Stone.

In addition to helping select the title, Frances Bean also played a role in choosing the cover image. 'Courtney and I involve Frances in Nirvana/Kurt decisions whenever we can,' says Peter Asher, who manages Love and the Cobain estate. 'She's very perceptive and has cool ideas.' With the Lights Out was delayed for several years due to legal battles between Love and surviving Nirvana members Krist Novoselic and Dave Grohl, but there were no such troubles with Sliver." Story courtesy of Rolling Stone. The album will be released on October 31 in Europe.

Josh H 09-21-05 01:09 PM


Originally Posted by nodeerforamonth
Just out of curiousity, what would have made it more special?!?!?

Being a high quality concert DVD, not a clip of some early rare stuff that is in poor quality and recorded when Nirvana pretty much sucked IMO.

nodeerforamonth 09-21-05 01:45 PM


Originally Posted by Josh Hinkle
Being a high quality concert DVD, not a clip of some early rare stuff that is in poor quality and recorded when Nirvana pretty much sucked IMO.

Wow! We'll, we're all entitled to our opinions! I'd be hard pressed to say that Nirvana ever sucked (except when playing "Come As You Are").

Plenty of time later for high quality concert DVDs. There's quite a few good ones floating around the trading circles.

The Antipodean 09-21-05 03:39 PM


Originally Posted by glasschicken
'We're pulling Frances into the family business,' Love told Rolling Stone.

Which business is that, the dying an early tragic death business or the becoming a sellout crackhead media whore business? Yeesh. Poor kid.

auto 09-23-05 09:43 AM

Unreleased tracks seem to be Spank Thru (Faecal Matter), Sappy (Endino-produced demo), and Come As You Are (boombox).

Tracklisting:
1. Spank Thru (Faecal Matter) 3:10
2. Heartbreaker (first Nirvana show) 2:59
3. Mrs. Butterworth (band demo) 4:05
4. Floyd The Barber (live) 2:33
5. Clean Up Before She Comes (home demo) 3:12
6. About A Girl (home demo) 2:44
7. Sappy (Endino-produced demo) 3:46
8. Blandest (Endino-produced demo) 3:56
9. Ain't It A Shame (The Jury) 2:01
10. Lithium (KAOS/Calvin Johnson) 1:49
11. Opinion (KAOS/Calvin Johnson) 1:34
12. Sliver (home demo) 2:09
13. Smells Like Teen Spirit (boombox) 5:40
14. Come As You Are (boombox) 4:15
15. Old Age (Nevermind outtake) 4:20
16. Oh The Guilt (Touch and Go single) 3:25
17. Rape Me (solo acoustic) 3:23
18. Rape Me (band demo) 3:01
19. Heart Shaped Box (Rio demo) 5:31
20. Do Re Mi (home demo w/ Pat Smear) 4:24
21. You Know You're Right (solo acoustic) 2:30
22. All Apologies (solo acoustic) 3:33

glasschicken 09-23-05 10:51 AM

Kind of a let down if you ask me. I'll probably still get it. I can't believe Verse Chorus Verse didn't make the cut though. Actually, thinking more about it, this looks pretty bad. I just hope the new Sappy sounds good. Anyone know if this version of Oh, The Guilt has the lighter clicks in the begining or if it's still the same as the box one.

nodeerforamonth 09-23-05 11:32 AM

I'll pass. Those 2 of those 3 new tracks are widely available through trading circles and I absolutely hate "Come As You Are".

I also would've picked almost every single song differently from the box set (with the exception of "Ain't It A Shame", "Mrs Butterworth", "Oh the Guilt" and "Do Re Mi").

Josh H 09-23-05 11:47 AM


Originally Posted by nodeerforamonth
Wow! We'll, we're all entitled to our opinions! I'd be hard pressed to say that Nirvana ever sucked (except when playing "Come As You Are").

Well, I should prefact that by saying I'm not a huge Nirvana fan and didn't get into them much until In Utero. I loved that album, and thus gave their older stuff another chance and it grew on me.

But I definitely put them behind Pearl Jam, Soundgarden and Alice in Chains out of the Seattle "grunge" bands.

The Antipodean 09-23-05 11:51 AM


Originally Posted by Josh Hinkle
But I definitely put them behind Pearl Jam, Soundgarden and Alice in Chains out of the Seattle "grunge" bands.

Wow, I entirely disagree. I like all three of those bands you named, but their music now does seem quite dated and one-note - Alice in Chains, to me, put out many variations on two or three basic songs. Nirvana experimented and was really something novel, IMHO.

Josh H 09-23-05 12:24 PM


Originally Posted by Sierra Disc
Wow, I entirely disagree. I like all three of those bands you named, but their music now does seem quite dated and one-note - Alice in Chains, to me, put out many variations on two or three basic songs. Nirvana experimented and was really something novel, IMHO.

Different strokes for different folks I guess. :D

Pearl Jam has been my favortie group since Ten came out in 1991, and you're opinion of AiC is basically mine of Nirvana. :D

nodeerforamonth 09-23-05 01:34 PM

Hell, I wouldn't even consider Pearl Jam, Soundgarden or Alice In Chains "grunge"! "Grunge" to me was more like Mudhoney, Big Chief (first 3 singles), Tad, Seaweed, etc...

Josh H 09-23-05 01:48 PM

That's why i put "grunge" in quotes as that is 100% right, but in the mainstream venacular most people have never heard of the bands and consider PJ etc. grunge.

Rypro 525 09-23-05 02:08 PM


Originally Posted by Josh Hinkle
Different strokes for different folks I guess. :D

Pearl Jam has been my favortie group since Ten came out in 1991, and you're opinion of AiC is basically mine of Nirvana. :D

also, pearl jam also really expiraments in the studio, and hasn't released the same type of music every album.

gerrythedon 09-23-05 03:18 PM

Track List Set For Nirvana Compilation

The track list has been revealed for the upcoming Nirvana compilation first reported here earlier this week. “Sliver: The Best of the Box” will arrive Nov. 1 via Geffen/UME and is led by three previously unreleased tracks: “Spank Thru” from the famed 1985 “Fecal Matter” demo tape, the 1990 studio outtake “Sappy” and a pre-“Nevermind” rehearsal recording of “Come as You Are.”

The album's other 19 tracks are all drawn from the 2004 boxed set “With the Lights Out,” including a cover of Led Zeppelin's “Heartbreaker” from a 1987 house party, the “Nevermind” outtake “Old Age” and a 1994 Kurt Cobain home demo of “All Apologies.”

Here is the track list for “Sliver: The Best of the Box”:

“Spank Thru” (previously unreleased, 1985 “Fecal Matter” demo)
“Heartbreaker” (live, 1987)
“Mrs. Butterworth” (undated rehearsal demo)
“Floyd the Barber” (live, 1988)
“Clean Up Before She Comes” (undated home demo)
“About a Girl” (undated home demo)
“Blandest” (studio recording, 1998)
“Ain't It a Shame” (studio recording, 1989)
“Sappy” (previously unreleased)
“Opinion” (solo acoustic, 1990)
“Lithium” (solo acoustic, 1990)
“Sliver” (undated home demo)
“Smells Like Teen Spirit” (rehearsal recording, 1991)
“Come As You Are” (previously unreleased rehearsal recording, 1991)
“Old Age” (“Nevermind” outtake, 1991)
“Oh the Guilt” (split single w/ Jesus Lizard, 1992)
“Rape Me” (acoustic home demo, 1992)
“Rape Me” (studio recording, 1992)
“Heart Shaped Box” (studio recording, 1993)
“Do Re Mi” (home demo, 1994)
“You Know You're Right” (home demo, 1994)
“All Apologies” (home demo, 1994)

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FrozenMetalHead 10-31-05 08:44 AM

For anyone interested in this one - decent price at Best Buy / Circuit City / Target this week - $7.99.

mdc3000 10-31-05 12:27 PM

I have the box and have the 3 additional tracks downloaded, but the completist in me is going to have to buy this...damn it!!!! I loves me some Nirvana, so I shouldn't complain...

MATT

I'm also going to add fuel to the fire, saying that I agree with josh and rypro about PJ... one of my favourites of all time, and IMO better and more diverse than Nirvana.

Gunshy 11-08-05 11:09 AM

Just a note about the Japanese version of this disc which arrived today. I ordered my copy from wwww.cdjapan.co.jp. It does NOT have any exclusive bonus tracks (unlike many Japanese releases). However it does come with the (almost) requisite Japanese language insert that includes the lyrics to each song in English (and Japanese)! In addition, my copy came with a 20 x 30 inch promotional poster! This is meant to be packaged with this CD as it says "not for sale" and has the same stock number as the cd (UICZ-1190). I did not expect this and it's a really good, kind of grainy b/w close-up image of the band. Oh yeah, and the music's killer too (for those who don't have the box set).

-Gunshy


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