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cactusoly 08-21-05 09:42 AM

Iron Maiden & Sharron Osbourne conflict at Ozzfest.
 
Apprenty at Maiden's last show for Ozzfest (Velvet Revolver takes over Aug 23rd) Bruce Dickinson and Sharron Osbourne butt heads. It was reported that during Maiden's set eggs were throuwn at the band, and later the sound was cut and drowned out with a prerecorded "Ozzy" chand when Maiden was still on stage taking their bows. Dickinson and Sharron Osbourne argued and she came on stage and called Dickinson a prick over the PA. Full details are on KNAC.com

http://knac.com/article.asp?ArticleID=3814

I saw Ozzfest at Darien Lake earlier this summer and both maiden and Sabbath Rocked, but the edge had to go to Maiden \m/

benedict 08-21-05 10:53 AM

The article I read indicated that the egg throwing and the sound problems were orchestrated.

Sharon may be a great publicist and organiser but rubbishing other musicians like she keeps on doing will ultimately be self-defeating.

Very disappointed to read of this story.

Giantrobo 08-21-05 01:01 PM

I've always been a huge fans of Sharon's....even before the TV shows back when she used to go on Stern's show...but this story is just bad and I'm very disappointed with her. Sharon is losing her mind.

To be honest, I never thought Maiden was a good match for OZZFEST to begin with.

I.Flores 08-21-05 11:33 PM

After the first couple of eggs, Bruce should've told the audience to beat the shit out of anyone trying to throw any more eggs, and problem should've been solved immediately then.

mndtrp 08-22-05 12:09 AM

From what I understand, he did ask people to break the arms of anyone throwing stuff.

I've never understood the mentality behind throwing things at a band. If I didn't like what they were playing, I just didn't rock out. It would suck to be a band and see a bunch of people just watching you, doing nothing. Unless you're at a Type O Negative show or something similar.

Giantrobo 08-22-05 12:20 AM


Originally Posted by mndtrp
From what I understand, he did ask people to break the arms of anyone throwing stuff.

I've never understood the mentality behind throwing things at a band. If I didn't like what they were playing, I just didn't rock out. It would suck to be a band and see a bunch of people just watching you, doing nothing. Unless you're at a Type O Negative show or something similar.

Um, I think you missed the point of the article. It had nothing to do with Maiden's music...

Osiris 08-22-05 12:34 AM

Sharon will have Ozzy a tarhished star before his last brain cell dies.

DVD Josh 08-22-05 07:06 AM

Honestly, if Sharon ever pulled this shit with me, I'd probably smack her in the face and tell her fat kids they'll get some of the same if they dont' get in line. I bet you Ozzy would thank me.

Xander 08-22-05 09:23 AM

WTF? I think all this publicity and "fame" has gone to Sharon's head. She needs to get the fuck over herself already.

Flashback 08-22-05 01:11 PM

Love this quote from Sharon ..

"It also offended me every night how he took out the English flag in America. There are American boys going to war alongside the English boys every day. How dare he forget the American troops on their home turf?"

Uh.. first of all this has been part of the show (for the song 'The Trooper') for, I don't know, many years now? Second of all, don't make this a political issue.



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TheMadMonk 08-22-05 02:57 PM

If anything, Sharon is just pissed because Maiden rocks, they put on a good show, and always sound great. She is just mad because they make the other bands, especially her babbling, incoherent husband, look bad.

Mordred 08-22-05 03:04 PM

From ozzfest.com:

August 21, 2005
LAST SHOW FOR MAIDEN

Iron Maiden were chosen for the Ozzfest tour because the Ozzfest committee felt they were a good band, plus the fact that they had not done shows in the U.S. for some time. From day one, Bruce Dickinson started berating Ozzy and belittling the Ozzfest audience. He stated he"didn’t need a reality show to give him credibility"; "we're not just some *****ing reunion band"; and continuously complained about the sound system, saying that when he comes back to America he’ll have a better one. I understand he hasn’t toured in the U.S.in these size venues in a while and no longer understands the political structure of things. Out of 200-plus bands over the last 10 years, he has been the only person who hasn’t had the Ozzfest spirit. He thought he was at a battle of the bands, always making other comments about the other artists.

Might I say, the rest of the band are gentlemen and have a great professional attitude. The crew are absolutely great. But how sad it was, after 10 years, that this little man tried to ruin it for everyone. The bands of Ozzfest don’t even look at Ozzfest as touring, but as its heavy metal summer camp. Bruce is in fact a jealous prick and very envious. None of his tirades were directed at Sabbath, only Ozzy. Steve Harris [Iron Maiden's bassist] personally came to Ozzy in San Bernardino and apologized for Bruce’s behavior this summer, stating that he and the rest of the band were "embarrassed" by their own singer.
It also offended me every night how he took out the English flag in America. There are American boys going to war alongside the English boys every day. How dare he forget the American troops on their home turf. He has had no respect for the American audience he has been playing for, stating in an interview, "When you do the 'hits' tour here [in the U.S.], the audience is smug, and there's a sense of self-satisfaction, like, 'We got what we wanted…I'm looking at an audience that is self-satisfied and happy and fat, and getting what it wants and isn't prepared to get off its ass.."

Before there was Samson there was SABBATH!

Ozzfest 2005 continues on with our summer of fun with the addition of Velvet Revolver. This is where the fun begins…..

Flashback 08-22-05 03:52 PM


Originally Posted by Mordred
From ozzfest.com:

Bruce is definitely a hard ass. But he is absolutely right in his long standing argument about touring the U.S. His problem was that in other countries the fans came out and enjoyed the new and the old stuff. In the US all they want to hear was the greatest hits only and - which I can understand on both sides but he does have a point. It's a lot more fun elsewhere...not just a $ grab.

Second, Sabbath has turned into a big joke because of this OzzFest/Sharon and Ozzy being this bag of bones carried around the country.

Maiden should have never agreed to do this and done their own tour which definitely would play to a bit more than 'clubs' as Sharon would lead you to believe.

Love how Maiden's response was a bit more on the 'adult' side....

IRON MAIDEN wish to thank all the 45,000 Metal fans at Ozzfest in San Bernardino on Saturday night for sticking with us and giving us such a great response at the end of a difficult set. It was obvious to all there that we had a 'series of unfortunate events' throughout! These made it difficult for us to keep our momentum but your incredible support certainly helped us get through it. We guess it all adds up to a pretty memorable gig though!!!

This is, however, a Metal Festival. It is supposed to be fun for all. You fans pay very good money to be there and deserve to get a full and unhindered performance from all the bands. This was not the case last night.

So with this rather bizarre end to a good tour we are returning to the UK today for the Leeds and Reading Festivals and once again thanks to all of you who came out to see us these last few weeks.

FROM IRON MAIDEN

Toka 08-22-05 04:47 PM

Maiden = true class!


Sharon is probably the biggest **** on the planet, this just seals it for those who were oblivious. She was using Ozzy to run to the bank, now she is just running him and the fest into the ground. Good one.

Giantrobo 08-22-05 05:20 PM

Wow, i'm still trippin' over this. On one hand, Sharon is a loonie money grubber who can be very immature at times...but who isn't in "the Biz"? On the other hand, I've been to enough Maiden shows and heard Bruce ranting(not in a good way) between songs and I've also read enough interviews with Bruce to know that -HE CAN GET ON HIS HIGH HORSE and talk mucho shit. So if in fact he did put down Ozzfest, Ozzy, and Black Sabbath then that wasn't cool at all. However, the orchestrated fuckfest that apparently the OZZstaff took part in is totally UNPROFESSIONAL.

So at this point, assuming all I've heard so far is true...I'm blaming both Sharon and Bruce with Sharon taking more blame than Bruce simply because she could've handled things better.


BTW, while Sharon may or may not have been offended by Bruce's use of the Union Jack, she should know that American Metal fans probably love that flag more than the American flag. So many great Metal/hard Rock bands are from Great Britain it's like we're brothers. Also, I remember American soldiers putting IROIN MAIDEN on their missles during the DESERT STORM back in the 90's. So I doubt there's any problem with Americans and the Union Jack.

Also, I can kinda see Bruce's point on American audiences but hey, there's nothing wrong with wanting too hear classics in shows. ESPECIALLY, when you're paying $50+ for a show. The average American Metalhead isn't rich like Madonna,U2, and Rolling Stones fans. So you should be working hard to give them what they want evn if that means singing The Tropper for the millionth time. Hey, KISS does Rock and Roll All night every show and I'm pretty sure most KISS fans HATE that song...I know I do.

Mordred 08-22-05 05:43 PM

I agree with you completely 'robo. Mistakes were made by both parties and neither comes out smelling great.

Giantrobo 08-22-05 05:57 PM


Originally Posted by Mordred
I agree with you completely 'robo. Mistakes were made by both parties and neither comes out smelling great.


yeah, I think it's easy to focus on Sharon and ignore Bruce's part in all this.

cactusoly 08-22-05 06:02 PM

I actually wish I could have seen Maiden's full set this year. I have never seen them play Another Life or Drifter live and will probably never get to see.

As far as playing the 'hits or more well known songs go ... I don'y care if I ever hear songs like "Run To The Hills" again. I love the song but I've seen Maiden live on 9 different tours and they played it every single time. I love it when bands mix up there setlist.

cactusoly 08-22-05 06:06 PM

Another thing ... do you honestly think Velvet Revolver can pick up the slack on the nights Ozzy cant perform? rotfl

Giantrobo 08-22-05 06:17 PM


Originally Posted by cactusoly
Another thing ... do you honestly think Velvet Revolver can pick up the slack on the nights Ozzy cant perform? rotfl

I respect Ozzy but frankly, I've always thought DIO era Sabbath was the best. :up:

TheMadMonk 08-22-05 07:35 PM

Here is another side to the story: (because how impartial is ozzfest.com, really?)
http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/bla...wsitemID=40739


OZZFEST, Hang Your Head In Shame: The Backstage Perspective - Aug. 22, 2005
The manager of a well-known heavy metal band (*NOT* IRON MAIDEN) who attended this past weekend's Ozzfest show at the Hyundai Pavillion in Devore, California has submitted the following first-hand account of the evening that will surely go down as one of the most shameful moments in recent rock history (NOTE: at his request, the author's identity is being protected by BLABBERMOUTH.NET):

"Saturday night's Ozzfest at the Hyundai Pavillion near Los Angeles was a debacle on so many levels, I am still in shock as I write this. As a fan of many of the bands [Saturday] night, one can only hope this was an isolated incident, but sadly, it most likely wasn't. As many of you have heard already, co-headliners and metal legends IRON MAIDEN were pelted with eggs, bottle caps, beer cups, spit on, had people from the Ozzfest camp talking over the PA during their set, had 'Eddie' delayed from his onstage entrance, had members of the [BLACK LABEL SOCIETY] entourage rush the stage with American flags, and had the PA intentionally turned off over six times, all by the OSBOURNE CAMP.

"While it's still unclear as to the exact reasons why the terrorizing started (rumors abounded as to why, with everything from Bruce calling out Ozzy in the U.K. rock magazine Kerrang! on the widely known fact that Ozzy uses a teleprompter, to various vague references said on stage about a 'reality show' at an Ozzfest stop in Detroit), one thing was very clear: The whole thing stunk, and left me, and nearly all of the 40,000+ heavy metal fans in attendance angered and disappointed. Not that behind the scenes bickering or magazine trash-talking is anything new to rock fans, but the shocking lack of professionalism at one of the largest stops in North America in front of 40,000+ spectators, at the hand of the Osbournes was nothing short of disgusting.

"It all began early in the afternoon, when many side stage bands were openly approached in clear view of everyone backstage by Sharon and Kelly Osbourne to 'join them in throwing eggs at IRON MAIDEN this evening.' All the bands were encouraged to rally the other side-stage bands to do so. Members and/or friends of the hardcore band BURY YOUR DEAD were seen actively trying to encourage other side-stage bands to 'join in the fun.' Thankfully, many side stage bands angrily declined.

"Later that evening, as IRON MAIDEN came on stage, their intro was interrupted by [BLACK LABEL SOCIETY] hanger-on and biker wannabe Big Dave, who was at the soundboard loudly chanting 'Ozzy, Ozzy' over the PA. MAIDEN opened their set and the entire band was pelted from the front row with eggs, beer, beer cups, spit, and various other objects by an Ozzfest-credentialed, bandana-wearing, Osbourne entourage. IRON MAIDEN, ever the professionals, continued through their set, and by the time they launched into their second song, 'The Trooper', Bruce changed into a civil war-era, red coat and began waving a Union Jack — British flag. Then, someone in, or associated with, BLACK LABEL SOCIETY tried to rush the stage waving and American Flag with the words 'Don't fuck with Ozzy' scrawled across his bare chest. He was tackled and beaten by MAIDEN crew and promptly thrown off stage.

"As 'The Trooper' ended, frontman Bruce Dickinson, with characteristic spunk, launched into a scathing attack on the people terrorizing his band, calling them 'a sorry excuse for an Ozzy Osbourne fan,' and wondering aloud how, 'three dozen eggs could get snuck into the front row of Ozzfest by people with Ozzfest laminates?' Though he never named names, all in attendance could understand who he was referring to. Nicko McBrain ran up to the front asking Bruce to hold on while he cleaned egg off his drums. He then stated the the next song wouldn't be heard on 'Your local ********ing corporate radio station, wouldn't be seen on MTV anymore, and sure as hell wouldn't be played on a fucking reality TV show,' met by a huge roar from the crowd.

"During the song 'Hallowed Be Thy Name', Bruce, after only the first two lines, stopped singing and ran to the front row, firing back at his terrorizers, saying 'That asswipe right there, with the curly hair, the fucking glasses, and Ozzfest laminate throw his fucking ass out of here right now. It's gonna take more than eggs to stop IRON MAIDEN, and if it wasn't for a lawsuit, I'd rip your fucking head off right now, you piece of shit!!!!' He had the various attackers ejected and continued with a blistering version of the song until right before the big sing long at the end, the PA was INTENTIONALLY cut off. When it came back, Bruce launched into another scathing attack saying that they were supposed to play a shorter set than normal today, and only play 55 minutes, but IRON MAIDEN can't drive 55, or play 55, and were going to play our whole fucking set tonight.

"The band endured six more 'PA cuts,' including having the power to their amps turned off at one point. When the PA would come back on, they would simply launch into the next IRON MAIDEN classic, never missing a beat. Frankly, with every PA cut, the band just got meaner and meaner, playing each new song with an anger and a fire that was at times, simply astonishing to watch. Bruce began the introduction to IRON MAIDEN with a speech about 'Your constitution has something about 'We The People.' Well let me tell you, the only reason we are up here tolerating this bullshit, is because of you people. You have been amazing Glen Helen, and there are A LOT of IRON MAIDEN fans here tonight,' eliciting a huge roar from the crowd. He continued, 'It's gonna take more than eggs to stop IRON MAIDEN, NOTHING is going to come between us and our fans, and it will be death before dishonor, this is 'Iron fucking Maiden',' which was greeted by a thunderous applause. During 'Iron Maiden', longtime MAIDEN mascot Eddie was purposely delayed from making his entrance, making a brief appearance at the end, and one could only wonder as to how. As the band closed there set with a furious version of 'Sanctuary', the PA was again cut only to have Big Dave repeatedly chant 'Ozzy' over the PA, while the band tried to say goodbye to their fans. The now-furious crowd angrily drowned him out with chants of 'MAIDEN, MAIDEN.'

"Then, not 10 seconds after MAIDEN left the stage, Sharon Osbourne walked on stage and predictably, tried to give MAIDEN some fake, half-hearted praise about how they'd like to 'thank IRON MAIDEN,' and what a wonderful band IRON MAIDEN are, and how their crew were 'fantastic,' then sneering, 'But Bruce Dickinson is a prick.' The entire crowd, now fed up with the entire affair, began loudly booing her, pelting her with beer cups, and yelling 'bitch.' She tried to carry on, adding that 'Bruce had disrespected Ozzfest,' only to be drowned out by an ocean of boos, and soaked with beer. She slammed the microphone down and stormed off stage. Many in the crowd, fed up with what they had just witnessed, especially considering that many had come solely for MAIDEN, and paid upwards of $150 to do so, left in droves. SABBATH played to maybe half the audience that was there prior, and seemed stagnate compared to the band preceding them. As a huge fan of SABBATH, I honestly couldn't stand to watch them.

"I've seen IRON MAIDEN probably 10 times in my life, and frankly this was the very best IRON MAIDEN show I've had the pleasure of witnessing. You DON'T want to fuck with IRON MAIDEN. The more the Osbournes tried to fuck with them, the better they got! IRON MAIDEN was on fucking overdrive! Considering the amount of terrorizing and intimidation that IRON MAIDEN had to deal with at the hands of the Osbournes and the other side stage and main stage bands participating, they were the consummate professionals. They had the crowd in the palms of their hands, and IRON MAIDEN and Bruce Dickinson proved beyond a shadow of a doubt why they are the greatest metal band on earth right now, and quite possibly, the classiest, too.

"The Osbournes are drunk with power. Shame on them, and shame on ANY of the bands that participated in the terrorizing and intimidation. It was disgusting display, that NO BAND should have had to endure, but especially a legend like IRON MAIDEN. That fact that it happened in front of 40,000+ people, at a Clear Channel-sponsored event, while Hyundai Pavilion Security turned a blind eye and let the Osbourne camp pelt one of the main headlining bands with eggs, beer, and spit, was simply inexcusable.

"I will proudly be attending next year's MAIDEN fest, and as much as I hate to say it, I can't bring myself to spend another dime on the Osbournes.

"Ozzfest, hang your head in shame."

I.Flores 08-22-05 08:50 PM


Originally Posted by Flashback
Love this quote from Sharon ..

"It also offended me every night how he took out the English flag in America. There are American boys going to war alongside the English boys every day. How dare he forget the American troops on their home turf?"
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What puzzles me is that both Ozzy and Sharon are brits as well.

Xander 08-23-05 09:10 AM


Originally Posted by Giantrobo
I respect Ozzy but frankly, I've always thought DIO era Sabbath was the best. :up:

:thumbsup: Ronnie James Dio is a metal god. :)

And I have to agree with whomever said the Osbourne family is like one of the least metal families ever. Love old Ozzy, but man, he is just pathetic now. He should break into Sharon's bedroom sometime and steal his balls back from her nightstand.

Snowmaker 08-23-05 11:15 AM

Too bad Sharon didn't slip on some egg and get injured. :mad2:

Giantrobo 08-23-05 01:18 PM


Originally Posted by Vandelay_Inds
I don't see what "mistakes" Bruce made. He spoke the truth. Culturally, the US is for the most part a barbarian nation. MTV, and everything it represents, is beyond revolting. And Sharon has made a damn fool out of Ozzy, and by extension, the whole metal movement, to which Black Sabbath is the great patriarch. The Ozzman has made some legendary music, but shit, his family is so un-metal and un-authentic, and so pathetic in pursuing money and fame by being donkeysh and clownish, he should just retire and stop embarrasing us all.

And don't be fooled by the flag remark; it's just a desperate attempt to garner some sympathy, since there's nothing much to hang on her defense.

Let me say 1st, I'll always side with Maiden over Ozzfest. However...

Right or wrong why do it on the OZZFEST TOUR Bruce? It's like talking shit about Rap music while on a rap tour or sayng how stupid women are on the LILITH TOUR. You're just aking for trouble. Whether Bruce likes it or not, it's OZZFEST not MAIDENFEST and the OZZY people are running the show. If he didn't want to be there then he shoulda stayed home or had Maiden do their own tour. Why start shit? Why create bad blood at all? He shoulda kept his feelings to himself like a professional often does and Sharon should've been more mature about handling the criticism. Did he really think he's so above it all he could talk shit and NOT have someone react? We all know how Sharon is and how spiteful she can be. She's known to be that way in Show Biz.


Also, don't give me that bullshit about America's taste. America's tastes are not that different from everyone else. News for you....CRAP GETS MADE ALL OVER THE WORLD. Britian gave us Maiden, in but it also gave us SPICE GIRLS. I can name any number of stupid 1 hit POP groups that got shit out of Europe and believe more are set to come.


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