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Old 04-08-05 | 05:47 PM
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Smashing Pumpkins - B-Sides & Rarities

Anyone buy some (or all!) of the Pumpkins B-Sides & Rarities just added to itunes?

Tracklisting:

1 Rhinocoous (Full LP Version)
2 Blue
3 Slunk
4 Bye June (Demo)
5 Siva (Peel Sessions)
6 A Girl Named Sandoz (Peel Sessions)
7 Smiley (Peel Sessions)
8 I Am One
9 Plume
10 Starla [10:59]
11 Bullet Train To Osaka
12 Terrapin
13 Disarm
14 Soothe (Demo)
15 Blew Away
16 Siamese Dream
17 Landslide
18 Dancing In The Moonlight
19 Today
20 Hello Kitty Kat
21 Obscured
22 Cherub Rock
23 Pissant
24 French Movie Theme
25 Purr Snickety
26 Not Worth Asking
27 Honeyspider Ii
28 Infinite Sadness (Instrumental)
29 1979 (Vocal Mix)
30 1979 (Instrumental Mix)
31 Bullet With Butterfly Wings
32 ...Said Sadly
33 You'Re All I'Ve Got Tonight
34 Clones (We'Re All)
35 A Night Like This
36 Destination Unknown
37 Dreaming
39 Ugly
40 The Boy
41 Cherry
42 Set The Ray To Jerry
43 Zero
44 God
45 Mouths Of Babes
46 Tribute To Johnny
47 Marquis In Spades
48 Pennies
49 Pastichio Medley [23:00]
50 Tonight, Tonight
51 Meladori Magpie
52 Rotten Apples
53 Medellia Of The Gray Skies
54 Jupiter'S Lament
55 Blank
56 Tonite Reprise
57 Thirty-Three
58 The Last Song
59 The Aeroplane Flies High (Turns Left, Looks Right) [8:36]
60 Transformer
61 The Bells
62 My Blue Heaven
63 Speed Kills
64 Hope (Instrumental)
65 Blissed And Gone
66 Apathy'S Last Kiss
67 Mayonaise (Acoustic)
68 Eye
69 Lucky 13
70 The Aeroplane Flies High [7:59]
71 Because You Are
72 Slow Dawn
73 Believe
74 My Mistake
75 Here'S To The Atom Bomb
76 Sparrow
77 Waiting
78 Saturnine
79 Rock On
80 Winterlong
81 Soot And Stars
82 Ava Adore
83 Czarina
84 Once In A While
85 Perfect
86 Summer
87 Perfect (Nellee Hooper Mix)
88 Perfect (Nellee Hooper Instrumental)
89 Perfect (Perfecto Mix) [7:00]
90 Perfect (Perfecto Dub) [7:04]
91 Perfect (Elektro Breakbeat Mix)
92 Daphne Descends (Kerry B. Mix)
93 Christmastime
94 Drown
95 Glynis
96 Sad Peter Pan
97 The End Is The Beginning Is The End
98 The Beginning Is The End Is The Beginning
99 The Ethers Tragic
100 The Guns Of Love Disastrous
101 Sinfony
102 Quiet (Live In Atlanta, 1993)
103 Disarm (Live On English Tv, 1993)
104 Cherub Rock (Acoustic) (Live On Mtv Europe, 1993)
105 Today (Live In Chicago, 1993)
106 Bugg Superstar
107 I Am One (Live In Barcelona, 1993) [7:53]
108 Pulseczar
109 Soma (Live In London, 1994)
110 Slunk (Live On Japanese Tv, 1992)
111 Geek U.S.A. (Live On German Tv, 1993)
112 Mayonaise (Acoustic) (Live Everywhere, 1988-1994)
113 Why Am I So Tired
114 Never Let Me Down Again
Old 04-08-05 | 06:55 PM
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Bought "The Eithers Tragic" and the live version of "Soma", which was off Earphoria. I have The Aeroplane Flies High box set so a good chunk of the b-sides I got already.
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I had no idea! Thanks for letting us know.

A lot of this stuff is not that rare, tons of tracks off of Earphoria and Pieces Iscariot for instance.

However, The Aeroplane Flies High, the Lull EP and several of the early singles have been deleted.
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I've taken the liberty of breaking up these "rarities" into their respective original groups so that you can get them easier.

Lull EP (Currently Out of Print)
Rhinoceros
Blue (Also available on Pisces Iscariot)
Slunk
Bye June (Demo)


The Peel Sessions (Currently Out of Print)
Siva (Peel Sessions)
A Girl Named Sandoz (Peel Sessions) (Also available on Pisces Iscariot)
Smiley (Peel Sessions)

I Am One [Single] (Currently Out of Print)
I Am One
Plume (Also available on Pisces Iscariot)
Starla (Also available on Pisces Iscariot)
Bullet Train To Osaka
Terrapin


Disarm 7" (Currently Out of Print)
Disarm
Siamese Dream

Disarm (Smile)[Single] (Currently Out of Print)
Disarm
Soothe (Demo) (Also available on Pisces Iscariot)
Blew Away (Also available on Pisces Iscariot)

Disarm (Heart)[Single] (Currently Out of Print)
Disarm
Landslide (Also available on Pisces Iscariot)
Dancing In The Moonlight

Today (US/UK)[Single] (Currently Out of Print)
Today
Hello Kitty Kat (Also available on Pisces Iscariot)
Obscured (Also available on Pisces Iscariot)

Cherub Rock 7" (Currently Out of Print)
Cherub Rock
Purr Snickety

Cherub Rock [Single] (Currently Out of Print)
Cherub Rock
Pissant (Also available on Pisces Iscariot)
French Movie Theme (Slightly different version on Earphoria)

Rocket [Single] (Currently Out of Print)
Rocket
Never Let Me Down Again (Also on Depeche Mode Tribute Album)

Singles [Soundtrack]
Drown (Shorter version available on Greatest Hits)

Bonus 7" For 12" Copy of Pieces Iscariot (Limited Edition)
Not Worth Asking
Honeyspider II

Earphoria (Live Album)
Sinfony
Quiet (Live In Atlanta, 1993)
Disarm (Live On English TV, 1993)
Cherub Rock (Acoustic) (Live On MTV Europe, 1993)
Today (Live In Chicago, 1993)
Bugg Superstar
I Am One (Live In Barcelona, 1993) [7:53]
Pulseczar
Soma (Live In London, 1994)
Slunk (Live On Japanese TV, 1992)
Geek U.S.A. (Live On German TV, 1993)
Mayonaise (Acoustic) (Live Everywhere, 1988-1994)
Why Am I So Tired

No Alternative (AIDS Charity Album, OOP)
Glynis

Sweet Relief II: Gravity of the Situation (Charity Album, OOP)
Sad Peter Pan

Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness Vinyl (Currently Out of Print)
Infinite Sadness (Instrumental)

1979 Mixes [Single (Out of Print, Also Not All Tracks for Sale On iTunes)
1979 (Vocal Mix)
1979 (Instrumental Mix)


Aeroplane Flies High (Currently Out Of Print)
Disc 1
Bullet With Butterfly Wings
...Said Sadly
You're All I've Got Tonight
Clones (We're All)
A Night Like This
Destination Unknown
Dreaming

Disc 2
1979
Ugly
The Boy
Cherry
Set The Ray To Jerry

Disc 3
Zero
God
Mouths Of Babes
Tribute To Johnny
Marquis In Spades
Pennies
Pastichio Medley

Disc 4
Tonight, Tonight
Meladori Magpie
Rotten Apples
Medellia Of The Gray Skies
Jupiter's Lament
Blank
Tonite Reprise

Disc 5
Thirty-Three
The Last Song
The Aeroplane Flies High (Turns Left, Looks Right)
Transformer
The Bells
My Blue Heaven

A Very Special Christmas 3 (Charity Christmas Album)
Christmastime

The End Is The Beginning Is The End [Single] (From Batman & Robin)
The End Is The Beginning Is The End
The Beginning Is The End Is The Beginning
The Ethers Tragic
The Guns Of Love Disastrous

Ava Adore [Single]
Ava Adore
Czarina
Once In A While


Perfect [Singles]
Perfect
Summer
Perfect (Nellee Hooper Mix)
Perfect (Nellee Hooper Instrumental)
Perfect (Perfecto Mix)
Perfect (Perfecto Dub)
Perfect (Elektro Breakbeat Mix)
Daphne Descends (Kerry B. Mix)

Stand Inside Your Love [Single]
Stand Inside Your Love
Speed Kills (May be high quality version, but lo-fi version available for free download as part of Machina II)

Still Becoming Apart (Best Buy Bonus CD with Machina, Limited Pressing)
Hope (Instrumental)
Blissed And Gone (Also available on Judas O)
Apathy's Last Kiss
Mayonaise (Acoustic)
Eye


Judas O (Greatest Hits Bonus Disc)
Lucky 13 (Also Available in Machina II)
The Aeroplane Flies High (Also Available in The Aeroplane Flies High)
Because You Are
Slow Dawn (Also Available in Machina II)
Believe
My Mistake
Here's To The Atom Bomb (Also Available in Machina II)
Sparrow
Waiting
Saturnine (Also Available in Machina II)
Rock On
Winterlong
Soot And Stars

I've reorganized the songs into chronological order and placed them in their respective albums (except for Pisces Iscariot, but all songs from that album are denoted. It should be purchased instead of single songs or the singles themselves. It's a better value!) Also, all rare tracks are marked in red. However, if a CD is still in print easily obtained, I didn't mark it red, regardless of exclusivity of tracks.

Most of the "rare" b-sides are are rare because the label deleted the single. This is the case of most of the singles up to the Adore album. Those singles can however be purchased pretty easily used off of Amazon, so I don't think they're that rare. Also, the Aeroplane Flies High is only considered rare because Virgin took it out of print. It would probably very difficult, but not impossible to track down the great box set.

Of the remaining "rare" tracks, some are available for free download as part of the Machina II album. Just google "Machina II".

Then there is the tribute and charity album tracks, I consider these rare because if you only like Smashing Pumpkins, it's just easier to buy from iTunes. Also, a few of the charity albums went OOP.

Finally, there are the true rare tracks such as the tracks from the bonus 7" with Pieces Iscariot and the Still Becoming Apart Bonus CD. These are pretty varied and some aren't any good.

This whole rare thing on iTunes is kind of a bust for a diehard fan such as myself, but for the casual fan, it should be very helpful.

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I wouldnt mind a boxset of all these songs (it would be nice to own them on CD) .

And not to take anything away from iTunes...but found alot of those songs online (not on P2P Networks). But really all i got was pre-Gish demo stuff & a couple of live shows.
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Thanks a lot Brain Stew. That was really cool of you to do for us.
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Originally Posted by Brain Stew

Undetermined, could be from Mashed Potatoes (Available for download on fan sites)
Infinite Sadness (Instrumental)

Was this one of the tracks that was available on the Mellon Collie vinyl edition?

EDIT:
and THANKS! This is very helpful. Are there any other officially released tracks not available on the albums or on this Rare Collection? I'm pretty sure there's a Tristessa 7" version.

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I know its not the same songs, but I figured this would be the best place to post this
http://www.billy-corgan.com/
There are quite a few demos and acoustic sessions from Billy Corgan.

Enjoy.
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Originally Posted by FrozenMetalHead
THANKS! This is very helpful. Are there any other officially released tracks not available on the albums or on this Rare Collection? I'm pretty sure there's a Tristessa 7" version.
No problem I just used www.spfc.org to help me figure out which songs go where.

As for rarities not on iTunes: other than live performances of covers and unused songs in demos (which you can get at the site durden007 posted), I believe iTunes to have them all. But I could be wrong.

In regards to a Tristessa 7", it seems that Tristessa and La Dolla Vita (available on Pieces Iscariot) are the only tracks on it. Honeyspider was on the 12" in addition to the two other tracks.

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Originally Posted by FrozenMetalHead
Was this one of the tracks that was available on the Mellon Collie vinyl edition?
That is one of the two bonus tracks (the other being Tonite Reprise) from the 3 LP set.

Thanks! It has been corrected.
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I wouldnt mind a boxset of all these songs (it would be nice to own them on CD) .
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tons of these are in this box set
all of the track list can be found at Amazon
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I've had "The Aeroplane Flies High" since 2000.

Damn if that "Zero" single doesnt include some good songs though


What i meant was all the other songs on that huge ass list. But if i take out TAFH songs and the stuff off of "Machina 2", "Judas 'O" and "Earphoria" there isnt a whole lot left.
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Uh, which version of "pisces iscariot" do you have that includes Purr Snickety?
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Originally Posted by Brain Stew
In regards to a Tristessa 7", it seems that Tristessa and La Dolla Vita (available on Pieces Iscariot) are the only tracks on it. Honeyspider was on the 12" in addition to the two other tracks.
From what I can tell from www.spfc.org, the SubPop Tristessa 7"/12" included a different recording of "Tristessa" than the one later recorded for Gish several months later. OK, technically not a B-side, but an alternate recording. Still, considering they included the A-sides of many of the singles, you would think they would have included this one.
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Uh, which version of "pisces iscariot" do you have that includes Purr Snickety?
My mistake, it's been corrected.
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Nice list, probably should be noted that Eye is also available on the Lost Highway soundtrack.
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I saw this last week, didn't really understand who this was marketed at. Any real pumpkins fan would have all of this, and I can't see a casual fan being interested.

I can find maybe 3 songs I didn't have already, either through albums or simply trading..

Still cool to see the pumpkins get some props.
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Originally Posted by durden007
I know its not the same songs, but I figured this would be the best place to post this
http://www.billy-corgan.com/
There are quite a few demos and acoustic sessions from Billy Corgan.

Enjoy.
Yeah, this is a pretty solid site, and has weekly new video updates.. Plus it's all free downloads without registering etc..

Time to time they have some pretty good stuff.
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Oh great. There goes another 100 bones...
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Oh great. There goes another 100 bones...
better just pick up the box set for cheap and pick up pisces
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I used to have the Aeroplane box but I sold it off because I needed cash to pay bills, and before I moved I had an oppurtunity to buy another box but forgot to stop by the store to get it. I really wish a definative B-sides collection would be released I'd buy it in a second I really miss this band.

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