Awesome Band That Faded Too Early and Should Reign Again
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Originally Posted by CRM114
I'm not getting the XTC thing. They made 12 albums and the last one was 2000.
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I don't believe they are broken up so....
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I'm not getting how they fit? They still have a large following, myself included.
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Originally Posted by Filmmaker
Adam Tyner, if he doesn't mind me speaking on his behalf, and I are of the opinion that they are still only popular in a "cult" sense, without having ever broken through into the mainstream at all. The closest they might have ever gotten was the song "Dear God", and I would guess that if you asked 100 people off the streets if they'd ever heard of the band of that song, all 100 would have no clue to what you were referring.
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I don't think that XTC have ever "faded" in the way were talking about in this thread. Their popularity has remained fairly steady for the past 25+ years, given that they had some singles that charted early in their career.
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Originally Posted by wendersfan
I don't think that XTC have ever "faded" in the way were talking about in this thread. Their popularity has remained fairly steady for the past 25+ years, given that they had some singles that charted early in their career.
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And that's a fair point; still, the core issue here is that Adam feels XTC deserves better than it has yet to get in terms of chart success/mass popularity, so I think it's a fair choice.
And I'd venture to guess that "Making Plans for Nigel" was a larger "hit" than Dear God. The point is that there is a large contingent of XTC fans still around - much moreso than say Jesus Jones.
I just got this link emailed to me yesterday. XTC has a tribute album called "Testimonial Dinner." Its not like no one ever noticed.
XTC is one of the greatest bands of all time. Seriously.
Furthermore, I didn't think the bands in this thread had anything to do with the "mainstream." If so, it'd be an MC Hammer thread.
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Originally Posted by CRM114
The title of the thread is "...faded too early." XTC has never faded.
In terms of popularity? I disagree that XTC is as popular now as they've ever been. XTC is one of my all-time favorite bands, and they've had an indelible effect on my passion for music, but I don't think they've enjoyed the success they deserve, and I don't see them as being at the peak of their popularity right now.
Bear in mind that the tribute album you mentioned is almost a decade old, and the Young Fresh Fellows, who most people reading this thread have never heard of, have a tribute album too. Doesn't mean anything. As far as the "mainstream" quip goes, the first post mentioned Jesus Jones. I took one of the possible topics of discussion as bands who were underappreciated in their later years compared to their earlier successes, and under that definition, I believe XTC fits the bill. That's all I'm saying. No slight was intended. I have nearly an entire rack on my CD shelf decided to XTC and related projects, I've been reading Chalkhills for close to a decade now (I'm even thanked on the chalkhills.org discography), I keep XTC in heavy rotation in my various CD players, I wrote a review of The Old Grey Whistle Test just because XTC was on it... I would like to think I'm not casually making an uninformed statement.
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yeah, a band that releases over 10 albums over a span of 15 years hasn't exactly "faded" in my opinion either
Lush was one of my favorite bands that hanged it up after the drummer killed himself. They had a lot of promise.
Lush was one of my favorite bands that hanged it up after the drummer killed himself. They had a lot of promise.
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OK, but then we simply disagree on the point of the thread. I took it to mean bands that released an album or three and then vanished (or faded). XTC's 80's popularity has decreased with people that lumped them in with other 80s bands like Haircut 100 or Flock of Seagulls. Those that are the true fan of the band realize they haven't faded. Its like people who think Elvis Costello stopped making music after Imperial Bedroom. Has Elvis "faded?" He hasn't had a hit since Veronica yet his music and following is stronger than ever. And Mummer is a fantastic album.
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To continue on the XTC hijack vein:
1) Part of the reason XTC never attained the heights they might have in a just and fair world is because they stopped playing live shows more than 20 years ago.
2) I think Mummer is my favorite XTC album. Maybe. It's hard to say, but I think it's fair to say that it best exemplifies the aspects of the band I hold most dear, which is to say, it's like a contemporary version of The Kinks Are the Village Green Preservation Society, if that makes sense. Oddly, Skylarking is probably my least favorite of theirse, save the almost forgotten Go 2.
1) Part of the reason XTC never attained the heights they might have in a just and fair world is because they stopped playing live shows more than 20 years ago.
2) I think Mummer is my favorite XTC album. Maybe. It's hard to say, but I think it's fair to say that it best exemplifies the aspects of the band I hold most dear, which is to say, it's like a contemporary version of The Kinks Are the Village Green Preservation Society, if that makes sense. Oddly, Skylarking is probably my least favorite of theirse, save the almost forgotten Go 2.
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Originally Posted by wendersfan
I think Mummer is my favorite XTC album. Maybe.
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Given that Big Star are my favorite band, I'd have to say "power pop" is likely my favorite genre as well. I just think XTC's strengths lie (slightly) elsewhere - less "power", more "pastoral" along with the "pop".
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Originally Posted by CRM114
The title of the thread is "...faded too early." XTC has never faded.
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The point is that there is a large contingent of XTC fans still around - much moreso than say Jesus Jones.
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Furthermore, I didn't think the bands in this thread had anything to do with the "mainstream." If so, it'd be an MC Hammer thread.
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Cool! Its your thread man.
After growing up on Black Sea and English Settlement, I loved the direction XTC too afterwards. The Big Express is probably my favorite of them all. There aren't any of their albums I don't like but I tend to listen to more of their later stuff now. Love the mellow and orchestrated arrangements!
After growing up on Black Sea and English Settlement, I loved the direction XTC too afterwards. The Big Express is probably my favorite of them all. There aren't any of their albums I don't like but I tend to listen to more of their later stuff now. Love the mellow and orchestrated arrangements!
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I was very surprised that Buckcherry didn't do more after their debut. Sure I thought they were a bad ripoff of GNR, but it's not like GNR was doing anything. Rock just wasn't en vogue at that time.
My biggest disappointment was seeing Luscious Jackson die off the way they did. I loved their first two albums, but thought they started to fall off after that - and they never got much "commercial" recognition - despite having a Gap commercial. I still am waiting for Jill Cunniff to sprout up somewhere and do something again.
My biggest disappointment was seeing Luscious Jackson die off the way they did. I loved their first two albums, but thought they started to fall off after that - and they never got much "commercial" recognition - despite having a Gap commercial. I still am waiting for Jill Cunniff to sprout up somewhere and do something again.
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Originally Posted by Filmmaker
Joy Division and XTC are good picks...the rest are too obscure for my knowledge base, but it makes for interesting reading...
What genre is Failure?
What genre is Failure?
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If Failure came out today they would probably be categorized as emo.
I can almost guarantee anyone that listens to this album becomes a Failure fan.
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I agree w/ The Verve Pipe, love that band. Brian put out a good solo album, am hoping they'll get together for a new cd...... Underneath never got the promotion it needed....stupid RCA.
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But back to the thread, the Gin Blossoms disappeared pretty quickly, which was suprising since they came out around the same time as the Goo Goo Dolls and both had some huge hits. One band stuck around, the other didn't. I really thought the Blossoms would have had more staying power.
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Letters to Cleo. Best pop band of the 90's, a sentiment shared by baseball expert cum rock fanatic Peter Gammons.
Veruca Salt. First album was fairly unremarkable ninties grunge-influenced pop, but their flop follow-up Eight Arms to Hold You is a frikkin' brillliant pop album with some great Bob Rock cheeseball 80's guitar work.
Whisketown and Uncle Tupelo were both brilliant bands who ended way too soon, but as they spit out Ryan Adams, Wilco, Son Volt, Bottle Rockets, Caitlin Cary and Jay Farrar from the rubbish of their demise I don't think I can count them. Plus both released for great, if rarely-purchased, albums.
Veruca Salt. First album was fairly unremarkable ninties grunge-influenced pop, but their flop follow-up Eight Arms to Hold You is a frikkin' brillliant pop album with some great Bob Rock cheeseball 80's guitar work.
Whisketown and Uncle Tupelo were both brilliant bands who ended way too soon, but as they spit out Ryan Adams, Wilco, Son Volt, Bottle Rockets, Caitlin Cary and Jay Farrar from the rubbish of their demise I don't think I can count them. Plus both released for great, if rarely-purchased, albums.
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Originally Posted by Son-volt
Letters to Cleo. Best pop band of the 90's, a sentiment shared by baseball expert cum rock fanatic Peter Gammons.
Veruca Salt. First album was fairly unremarkable ninties grunge-influenced pop, but their flop follow-up Eight Arms to Hold You is a frikkin' brillliant pop album with some great Bob Rock cheeseball 80's guitar work.
Whisketown and Uncle Tupelo were both brilliant bands who ended way too soon, but as they spit out Ryan Adams, Wilco, Son Volt, Bottle Rockets, Caitlin Cary and Jay Farrar from the rubbish of their demise I don't think I can count them. Plus both released for great, if rarely-purchased, albums.
Veruca Salt. First album was fairly unremarkable ninties grunge-influenced pop, but their flop follow-up Eight Arms to Hold You is a frikkin' brillliant pop album with some great Bob Rock cheeseball 80's guitar work.
Whisketown and Uncle Tupelo were both brilliant bands who ended way too soon, but as they spit out Ryan Adams, Wilco, Son Volt, Bottle Rockets, Caitlin Cary and Jay Farrar from the rubbish of their demise I don't think I can count them. Plus both released for great, if rarely-purchased, albums.
I have to add Save Ferris. They put out 3 awesome albums, but were never able to build up the mainstream following to sustain. Their fans however all love(d) them immensely, and I saw several familiar faces whenever I would go to a show or an appearance. Now they are broken up, and I am eagerly anticipating Monique's solo debut album. I was lucky enough to catch her at the House of Blues in Anaheim just after they broke up, she still did Save Ferris songs, but closed with a couple of her own songs, and a cover of "We're Not Gonna Take It" that was spectacular. Unfortunately it is taking her forever to put out the album.
Another band I have to mention is called Cleaner. They were a hard rock band fronted by a female. I saw them at a "Women of Rock" or some such show that was headlined by Save Ferris at the Palace in Hollywood, and they were awesome. I bought the ep (just CDrs) at the show and have barely heard from them again. I heard that the girl didn't cut it and they were in the market for a new female singer, but have heard nothing since then.
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Creeper Lagoon. They put out two albums and a couple EPs, then broke up. Well, technically, they still exist, but only with one original member. But without Ian (eye-an) on vocals, they're not the same at all. Everyone should buy "Take Back the Universe and Give Me Yesterday". File under "Solid Pop-rock with lyrics that don't suck"
Failure was definitely a good band as well. I haven't listened "Fantastic Planet" in a long time. The vocalist's new band, Year of the Rabbit, is quite good too. File both under "Grunge, I guess..."
Mr. Bungle. Maybe not the best of projects involving Mike Patton, but without a doubt the most entertaining. Disco Volante and California are fantastic albums from start to finish (excluding the first track on DV). File under "Organized Noise"
At the Drive-In. Mars Volta and Sparta are good in their own way, but neither even comes close to ATDI (and I heard the two new bands before any ATDI). File under "politically-charged prog punk and more"
Failure was definitely a good band as well. I haven't listened "Fantastic Planet" in a long time. The vocalist's new band, Year of the Rabbit, is quite good too. File both under "Grunge, I guess..."
Mr. Bungle. Maybe not the best of projects involving Mike Patton, but without a doubt the most entertaining. Disco Volante and California are fantastic albums from start to finish (excluding the first track on DV). File under "Organized Noise"
At the Drive-In. Mars Volta and Sparta are good in their own way, but neither even comes close to ATDI (and I heard the two new bands before any ATDI). File under "politically-charged prog punk and more"
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The Toadies. Their album Rubberneck is absolutely great. Their 1st disc Pleather shows their potential, Rubberneck was awesome, and their follow up was decent, but didn't get any radioplay or promotion at all. I think they broke up, not sure.
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Originally Posted by durden007
The Toadies. Their album Rubberneck is absolutely great. Their 1st disc Pleather shows their potential, Rubberneck was awesome, and their follow up was decent, but didn't get any radioplay or promotion at all. I think they broke up, not sure.
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