Should Pearl Jam be inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame?
07-20-04 | 06:41 AM
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Originally posted by Tommy_Harn
My guess is that if this post were asking about Nirvana, you'd have far less of a consensus. If it were Nivana, I'd vote "No." Since its Pearl Jam, I vote "Yes."
My guess is that if this post were asking about Nirvana, you'd have far less of a consensus. If it were Nivana, I'd vote "No." Since its Pearl Jam, I vote "Yes."
07-20-04 | 07:37 AM
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Originally posted by cdollaz
I'm not bagging on them and I like PJ, but based on history, I just don't think they would get in if their career just continues to go as it has.
I'm not bagging on them and I like PJ, but based on history, I just don't think they would get in if their career just continues to go as it has.
07-20-04 | 07:45 AM
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Your second point I think is a point in favor of Pearl Jam.. Out of those "popular" acts very few of them are still around, much less still creating good new music
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huh?
I just remember reading in Blender, in their monthy "greatest songs of all time.." article. They covered Jeremy last year. They mentioned how high it charted(around 75) and that it was their highest hit. Maybe they meant highest original song?
You gotta think that when alternative acts like PJ & STP were popular, they still weren't as popular as acts like Boyz II Men, TLC, Janet Jackson, Celine Dion, and many others. It was still a niche genre. It was big, but not that big. I don't think it really exploded until after Cobain took his life.
huh?
I just remember reading in Blender, in their monthy "greatest songs of all time.." article. They covered Jeremy last year. They mentioned how high it charted(around 75) and that it was their highest hit. Maybe they meant highest original song?
You gotta think that when alternative acts like PJ & STP were popular, they still weren't as popular as acts like Boyz II Men, TLC, Janet Jackson, Celine Dion, and many others. It was still a niche genre. It was big, but not that big. I don't think it really exploded until after Cobain took his life.
07-20-04 | 08:02 AM
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I would hope they never make it, since I've always thought they were a pretty crappy band, but I suppose worse bands have been inducted. Nirvana, OTOH, would be a slam dunk.
07-20-04 | 08:20 AM
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Pearl Jam is absolutely my favorite band. They deserve to be inducted and I'm not just saying that since they are my fave. In the beginning they were musicans now they are artists. Their music has evolved as they have grown. They will be inducted when their time comes.
07-20-04 | 01:48 PM
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Originally posted by atlantamoi
You are joking right? Didn't even think there would be one minute of debate about Nirvana getting in. I personally don't like PJ, but don't have any issues with them being inducted one day. They did have (unfortunately) a pretty big influence on 90's rock.
You are joking right? Didn't even think there would be one minute of debate about Nirvana getting in. I personally don't like PJ, but don't have any issues with them being inducted one day. They did have (unfortunately) a pretty big influence on 90's rock.
Pearl Jam on the other hand has been making albums/touring for well over ten years. They still have a huge following.
07-20-04 | 02:30 PM
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Originally posted by Tommy_Harn
No, not joking. I think Nirvana is one of the most over-rated bands ever. I know quite a few others would agree. They also only made a handfull of records. I'm sure there will be those who will lobby to get them in, but do they really deserve it? Its debatable.
Pearl Jam on the other hand has been making albums/touring for well over ten years. They still have a huge following.
No, not joking. I think Nirvana is one of the most over-rated bands ever. I know quite a few others would agree. They also only made a handfull of records. I'm sure there will be those who will lobby to get them in, but do they really deserve it? Its debatable.
Pearl Jam on the other hand has been making albums/touring for well over ten years. They still have a huge following.
Longevity does not a great band make.
07-20-04 | 05:22 PM
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Jimi only had 4 albums. Kick his lazy-non-album making ass out!
07-21-04 | 07:13 AM
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Originally posted by Tommy_Harn
I think Nirvana is one of the most over-rated bands ever. I know quite a few others would agree. They also only made a handfull of records. I'm sure there will be those who will lobby to get them in, but do they really deserve it? Its debatable.
I think Nirvana is one of the most over-rated bands ever. I know quite a few others would agree. They also only made a handfull of records. I'm sure there will be those who will lobby to get them in, but do they really deserve it? Its debatable.
07-21-04 | 08:52 AM
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Like Nirvana or not, they helped usher in a new genre of music to the mainstream and a style- grunge. It isn't often that happens. Listen to the radio today, everything is still hanging on to that thread that these bands started in the early 90's. It is easier to do that to make money than try and do something comepletely different and original.
07-21-04 | 09:11 AM
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I think people forget how groundbreaking Nirvana and Pearl Jam were when they came out. Prior to Nevermind, Michael Jackson's Thriller was #1. I don't know about you guys, but for my friends and I, we could relate to Nirvana a lot more than we could Michael Jackson.
Yes, grunge was short-lived, and somewhat vapid, and near they end became ridiculous. But it really helped out a lot of people who couldn't stand the "plastic-fantastic" world of the 80s.
We will see, the RNR Hall of Fame Inductions should get interesting as we approach the 25th Anniversary to "Hair Metal". I will say this though, if Poison get inducted Nirvana should be instantly let in.
Yes, grunge was short-lived, and somewhat vapid, and near they end became ridiculous. But it really helped out a lot of people who couldn't stand the "plastic-fantastic" world of the 80s.
We will see, the RNR Hall of Fame Inductions should get interesting as we approach the 25th Anniversary to "Hair Metal". I will say this though, if Poison get inducted Nirvana should be instantly let in.
07-21-04 | 10:49 AM
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Originally posted by Brain Stew
We will see, the RNR Hall of Fame Inductions should get interesting as we approach the 25th Anniversary to "Hair Metal". I will say this though, if Poison get inducted Nirvana should be instantly let in.
We will see, the RNR Hall of Fame Inductions should get interesting as we approach the 25th Anniversary to "Hair Metal". I will say this though, if Poison get inducted Nirvana should be instantly let in.
As for PJ...not a big fan, there are some okay albums, but I can understand if they do make it. Definitely a lot more bands/artists that are deserving who have not been inducted yet.
07-21-04 | 11:46 AM
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huh.. Thriller was released like 10 years earlier
Originally posted by Brain Stew
I think people forget how groundbreaking Nirvana and Pearl Jam were when they came out. Prior to Nevermind, Michael Jackson's Thriller was #1. I don't know about you guys, but for my friends and I, we could relate to Nirvana a lot more than we could Michael Jackson.
Yes, grunge was short-lived, and somewhat vapid, and near they end became ridiculous. But it really helped out a lot of people who couldn't stand the "plastic-fantastic" world of the 80s.
We will see, the RNR Hall of Fame Inductions should get interesting as we approach the 25th Anniversary to "Hair Metal". I will say this though, if Poison get inducted Nirvana should be instantly let in.
I think people forget how groundbreaking Nirvana and Pearl Jam were when they came out. Prior to Nevermind, Michael Jackson's Thriller was #1. I don't know about you guys, but for my friends and I, we could relate to Nirvana a lot more than we could Michael Jackson.
Yes, grunge was short-lived, and somewhat vapid, and near they end became ridiculous. But it really helped out a lot of people who couldn't stand the "plastic-fantastic" world of the 80s.
We will see, the RNR Hall of Fame Inductions should get interesting as we approach the 25th Anniversary to "Hair Metal". I will say this though, if Poison get inducted Nirvana should be instantly let in.
07-21-04 | 09:31 PM
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Originally posted by j123vt_99
huh.. Thriller was released like 10 years earlier
huh.. Thriller was released like 10 years earlier
Actually PJ's Vitalogy was in the top 5 first week album sales of all time list. But alas that was before N*Sync, Britney Spears and Eminem brainwashed the public I'm betting it still may be skirting the top 10. lol. I read shit like this and it just hangs around in my head. Kinda useless stuff.
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07-21-04 | 09:54 PM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Flashback
[B]There is no way Poison will ever get in the HoF. The only hair band that I can think of that will get in is Bon Jovi.
You will be eating those words in 2011 when poison yes poison will be inducted, i personally can't wait, and your point about bon jovi being the only "hair metal" band having a shot, wrong i can think of a few great bands along with bon jovi, like, motley crue,def leppard,ratt,whitesnake,twisted sister,guns N' roses and dokken all getting heavy consideration in a few years when they are eligible...
And my opinion on pearl jam getting in yea they should when there time comes, they were great in the 90's like the bands i mentioned above were great for the 80's...
[B]There is no way Poison will ever get in the HoF. The only hair band that I can think of that will get in is Bon Jovi.
You will be eating those words in 2011 when poison yes poison will be inducted, i personally can't wait, and your point about bon jovi being the only "hair metal" band having a shot, wrong i can think of a few great bands along with bon jovi, like, motley crue,def leppard,ratt,whitesnake,twisted sister,guns N' roses and dokken all getting heavy consideration in a few years when they are eligible...
And my opinion on pearl jam getting in yea they should when there time comes, they were great in the 90's like the bands i mentioned above were great for the 80's...
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07-21-04 | 10:47 PM
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Definitely, still my fav band to this day 
07-22-04 | 12:08 AM
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Yeah, they should but not before R.e.m. or even Mudhoney who released the first real grunge single "Touch me I'm Sick." I think any band that has a great influence on rock music should be put in like Marshall Creenshaw or Love.
07-22-04 | 12:17 AM
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I don't like Pearl Jam at all so no I don't think they should be admitted into the hall of fame. My friend loaned me his copy of Ten & it sounds like they just ripped off Creed.
07-22-04 | 02:56 AM
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Originally posted by Edward Aquilera
I don't like Pearl Jam at all so no I don't think they should be admitted into the hall of fame. My friend loaned me his copy of Ten & it sounds like they just ripped off Creed.
I don't like Pearl Jam at all so no I don't think they should be admitted into the hall of fame. My friend loaned me his copy of Ten & it sounds like they just ripped off Creed.
07-22-04 | 06:45 AM
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Originally posted by Edward Aquilera
I don't like Pearl Jam at all so no I don't think they should be admitted into the hall of fame. My friend loaned me his copy of Ten & it sounds like they just ripped off Creed.
I don't like Pearl Jam at all so no I don't think they should be admitted into the hall of fame. My friend loaned me his copy of Ten & it sounds like they just ripped off Creed.
How dare you compare Pearl Jam to Creed? Creed has got to be one of the most no-talent ex-bands ever formed. Anyways how can PJ sound like Creed. Ten came out 13 years ago and Creed formed maybe 5-6 years ago.
07-22-04 | 07:44 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by johnbook
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You will be eating those words in 2011 when poison yes poison will be inducted, i personally can't wait, and your point about bon jovi being the only "hair metal" band having a shot, wrong i can think of a few great bands along with bon jovi, like, motley crue,def leppard,ratt,whitesnake,twisted sister,guns N' roses and dokken all getting heavy consideration in a few years when they are eligible...
I do not know if you are joking or not 
GnR I do not consider a hair band and may make it. All the others? I can't see it. No way no how...if they did make it I would be speechless. Only way Coverdale gets in is through Deep Purple and that's if they even consider him a major part of DP.
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You will be eating those words in 2011 when poison yes poison will be inducted, i personally can't wait, and your point about bon jovi being the only "hair metal" band having a shot, wrong i can think of a few great bands along with bon jovi, like, motley crue,def leppard,ratt,whitesnake,twisted sister,guns N' roses and dokken all getting heavy consideration in a few years when they are eligible...
GnR I do not consider a hair band and may make it. All the others? I can't see it. No way no how...if they did make it I would be speechless. Only way Coverdale gets in is through Deep Purple and that's if they even consider him a major part of DP.
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07-22-04 | 08:16 AM
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Originally posted by johnbook
You will be eating those words in 2011 when poison yes poison will be inducted, i personally can't wait, and your point about bon jovi being the only "hair metal" band having a shot, wrong i can think of a few great bands along with bon jovi, like, motley crue,def leppard,ratt,whitesnake,twisted sister,guns N' roses and dokken all getting heavy consideration in a few years when they are eligible...
You will be eating those words in 2011 when poison yes poison will be inducted, i personally can't wait, and your point about bon jovi being the only "hair metal" band having a shot, wrong i can think of a few great bands along with bon jovi, like, motley crue,def leppard,ratt,whitesnake,twisted sister,guns N' roses and dokken all getting heavy consideration in a few years when they are eligible...
