DVD Talk Forum

DVD Talk Forum (https://forum.dvdtalk.com/)
-   Music Talk (https://forum.dvdtalk.com/music-talk-28/)
-   -   The one and only Guns n Roses Chinese Democracy ever-changing release date thread (https://forum.dvdtalk.com/music-talk/373364-one-only-guns-n-roses-chinese-democracy-ever-changing-release-date-thread.html)

Jason 01-09-06 04:50 PM


Originally Posted by Mrs.Nesbit
So am I living in a fantasy world or would the first week album sales be huge for this?

You are living in a fantasy world. I can see it selling less than 20,000 in the first week. People simply don't care.

The Bus 01-09-06 05:18 PM


Originally Posted by Mordred
As someone who actually receives promo copies from record labels, I gotta say that you don't have a clue what you're talking about.

Maybe his info is outdated. I remember listening to Beck's Odelay several months before it came out. An RS writer even mentioned driving around in his car with it in the player the whole summer.

Of course, that was pre-Napster.

Bugg 01-09-06 07:04 PM


Originally Posted by Jason
You are living in a fantasy world. I can see it selling less than 20,000 in the first week. People simply don't care.

While it would not get the kind of numbers a "Guns" album would of generated 15 years ago. I feel the hype will easily push it past 20,000 copies for it's first week. Personally I think there will be a short term buzz and then a month later it will be forgotten. It just seems that in today's music market, that even if this album is on par with Appetite for Destruction, the demand for hard-rock is almost nill among average music buyers.

Of cousre it probably wont even be released anyhow.

DVD Josh 01-09-06 07:06 PM


Originally Posted by Bugg
It just seems that in today's music market, that even if this album is on par with Appetite for Destruction, the demand for hard-rock is almost nill among average music buyers.

That shit makes me want to throw up.

benedict 02-13-06 04:58 PM

http://www.nme.com/news/slash/22190
 

Guns 'n' Roses album 'out next month'

Slash reveals all about 'Chinese Democracy'


Guns 'n' Roses' long awaited album 'Chinese Democracy' is finally set to be released in March, according to former guitarist Slash.

The news comes just weeks after reclusive singer Axl Rose revealed that the band's first material in 10 years was nearing completion.

Speaking about the release on Christian O'Connell's Virgin breakfast show, Slash confirmed that the record is done and he said a "very official source" had already heard it.

He added: "Yeah its going to happen, I've been made aware it's been heard.

"I'm really excited, it's been a long time waiting to see what the next step around the corner was going to be for him (Axl), we know where everybody else is, but we were wondering what he was going to be doing. It's coming out in March and apparently it sounds great."

Tracks slated to appear on the 13 track album include 'Better', 'There Was A Time' and 'The Blues'.

Although Axl and Slash have not spoken in the last 10 years, the velvet revolver guitarist said he was pleased that the record is finally going to see the light of day.

He added: "I've always been supportive over that thing, even though it's been turned in to a big controversial blah blah blah thing.

"When I left I was pretty pissed off for having to leave in the first place. After a while all the boo-haha that was stirred and all the negative press, sort of went in his direction, so I'm just waiting for the record to come out, so I'm glad where it's got to the point that that's happening.
:later:

DVD Josh 02-13-06 05:20 PM


Originally Posted by benedict
:later:

I have my doubts about this. Here we are in February and not even a promo single?

But I agree with Slash - let's see what the hype is about.

Nesbit 02-13-06 05:24 PM

Hopefully they get a nice painting for the cover art to keep with all of their other full albums.

grunter 02-13-06 05:32 PM

Hey, if it actually comes out, bully for Axl.

Although I'm not holding my breath or anything.

Mordred 02-13-06 05:48 PM


Originally Posted by Mrs.Nesbit
To be honest I don't keep track of album sales at all. Is 100-200k copies the first week good? What is the average for the number 1 selling album of the week?

Missed this when originally posted.

I don't really pay attention to the numbers but I would guess most #1s debut with around 300-350k copies sold nowadays. Occasionally you'll have your massive debuts in the 600K to 1million range, but those are rare. Anything over 150k will probably be top 10 unless there are a lot of high profile debuts. I read today that Scott Stapp's solo album debuted with 94k copies which put it 19th the week it was released.

Glad this is finally seeing the light of day, but I'll be shocked if I ever buy it.

Hollowgen 02-13-06 09:15 PM

wonder what the DELUXE EDITION will be like

Adam Tyner 02-13-06 09:21 PM


Originally Posted by Mordred
I don't really pay attention to the numbers but I would guess most #1s debut with around 300-350k copies sold nowadays

There are an awful lot of variables. Barry Manilow's new album just debuted at #1 with 156K copies sold. The bottom end of the top 10 was Train's new album with 66K copies sold in its first week.

The week before, Il Divo's album also debuted at #1 with 156K copies sold, with #10 being the soundtrack to Disney's "High School Musical" at 53K copies.

Look back in December, though, and in the space of one week, Mary J. Blige sold 730K copies of her album in one week and Jamie Foxx sold 598K copies of his.

Amel 02-13-06 11:17 PM

Put me in the "I'll believe it when I see it" camp. This record is a complete myth :)

But if it does come out, I hope it's good. We need some good kick ass rock n roll again.

nodeerforamonth 02-14-06 12:37 PM

Well according to blabbermouth.net, Axl & friends were in NYC this weekend celebrating his birthday, and they showed up at a club at 4am and asked them to let them in. As incentive, he brought a copy of "Chinese Democracy" and turned it into a listening party!

GuessWho 02-14-06 04:45 PM

From melodicrock.com on 2/10/06... take with a grain of salt


COULD THE ILLUSION ERA GUNS N ROSES LINE-UP REALLY RETURN?:
Is the impossible actually being considered? Rumors of a Guns N Roses re-union appear to be gathering strength. It all started at British photographer/journalist Ross Halfin's website when he stated that the original Guns N' Roses lineup would get back together in June to play at the Download Festival in England, with Metallica also lined up to play.

That comment was soon withdrawn. Posted was: "I have to write some copy this weekend on Guns 'N Roses for a feature to go with my photos. My mind is blank at the moment. The thing is if you tell the truth it sets off too many wars, or egos way out of control. The original line-up is supposed to play Download in June with their metal chums, Metallica, if Lars can be bothered to turn up."

Now this - on the official Cult message board, frontman Ian Astbury has responded to a post asking after the possible 2006 touring line-up for The Cult. His response: "I love Matt he is a sweetheart..........Velvet Revolver Guns and Roses rumoured return W/SLASH and AXL .......Hey the Cult can barly contain Billy and Myself......But we will have a SHITHOT band for you so patience please."

So Use Your Illusion drummer Matt Sorum appears too busy for Cult duties it seems! Whether this will happen, if it will be a one-off performance or where this will leave the Chinese Democracy release and new Velvet Revolver releases are all questions to be answered in the coming weeks.

nodeerforamonth 02-14-06 05:46 PM

I want to believe it, but I don't.

But Steven Adler had very nice things to say about all the other members in the 20 Questions he did with Metal Sludge a couple weeks ago.

DarthMarino 02-16-06 11:14 AM

A song from Chinese Democracy has leaked onto the internet as well as an 80 second sample of another. It actually sounds pretty good to me. I'm sure any Guns N' Roses forum could point you in the right direction. Seems like the album really is coming.

nodeerforamonth 02-16-06 11:45 AM


Originally Posted by DarthMarino
A song from Chinese Democracy has leaked onto the internet as well as an 80 second sample of another. It actually sounds pretty good to me. I'm sure any Guns N' Roses forum could point you in the right direction. Seems like the album really is coming.

Well the forum I went to (heretodaygonetohell) had any references to it deleted and said they would ban anyone who posts a link to it.

Sounds like Axl's lawyers are hard at work.

Curse you Lars for killing Napster!

Nesbit 02-16-06 12:35 PM

Anyone heard is Madagascar will still be on the album?

nodeerforamonth 02-16-06 12:43 PM

Howard Stern is playing IRS right now!

Nesbit 02-16-06 12:46 PM

Wow I can't believe it is actually happening. Huge GNR fan way back when. I will be there the morning it releases.

FrozenMetalHead 02-16-06 05:42 PM

I've been expecting to not like this for so many years now...I kinda like it. I'm not saying it's the equal of Appetite here, but at first listen - it's not bad at all.

The Cow 02-16-06 08:36 PM


Originally Posted by Jason
I.R.S. is almost interesting.

Yeah, I agree.

It sounds like it could be decent, but those lyrics are really bad.

DVD Josh 02-16-06 10:23 PM


Originally Posted by The Cow
Yeah, I agree.

It sounds like it could be decent, but those lyrics are really bad.

You can understand the lyrics? Impressive :D

I've always like the music of IRS. Good song.

Nesbit 02-17-06 09:28 AM

IRS reminds me more of Led Zeppelin than GNR. I don’t listen to Led much though so I may be way off. Anyone else hear that?

Pointyskull 02-17-06 10:06 AM

Weird GNR-related personal story:

My parents just moved into an assisted-living complex near Bourbonnais, IL. Middle of nowhere. During one of our preliminary visits to scope the place out, we were show a craft room where the residents painted birdhouses.

One of the birdhouses was adorned with GNR decals and logos, and we were informed that Axl Rose's grandmother lives there, and that he sends her stuff to wear.


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:05 AM.


Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.