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Old 06-19-04, 12:48 AM
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Q Magazine's 50 Best British Albums Ever

The latest "Best of" list. Have at it. Personally, I think number one is such a crock. It belongs on the list. But definitely not on top. And where the hell are Depeche Mode and New Order!???

1. Oasis - Definitely Maybe
2. The Beatles - Revolver
3. Sex Pistols - Never Mind The Bollocks - Here's the Sex Pistols
4. Radiohead - OK Computer
5. The Clash - London Calling
6. David Bowie - The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders From
Mars
7. The Rolling Stones - Beggars Banquet
8. The Smiths - The Queen Is Dead
9. Led Zeppelin - Led Zeppelin III
10. Massive Attack - Blue Lines
11. Van Morrison - Astral Weeks
12. Blur - Parklife
13. Primal Scream - Screamadelica
14. Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon
15. The Specials - The Specials
16. Queen - A Night At The Opera
17. The Stone Roses - The Stone Roses
18. The Who - My Generation
19. Coldplay - A Rush of Blood to the Head
20. The Jam - All Mod Cons
21. The Kinks - The Kinks are the Village Green Preservation Society
22. Joy Division - Closer
23. Kate Bush - Hounds of Love
24. Happy Mondays - Pills `n' Thrills and Bellyaches
25. Nick Drake - Bryter Layter
26. The Coral - Magic and Medicine
27. John Lennon - John Lennon / Plastic Ono Band
28. Roxy Music - For Your Pleasure
29. Prodigy - Music For The Jilted Generation
30. Pulp - Different Class
31. Small Faces - Ogdens' Nut Gone Flake
32. The Verve - Urban Hymns
33. Black Sabbath - Paranoid
34. The Streets - Original Pirate Material
35. Gang Of Four - Entertainment!
36. The Human League - Dare
37. Elton John - Goodbye Yellow Brick Road
38. Soul II Soul - Club Classics Vol 1
39. Ian Dury - New Boots and Panties!!
40. The Undertones - The Undertones
41. Fairport Convention - Unhalfbricking
42. Super Furry Animals - Fuzzy Logic
43. Robbie Williams - Life Thru A Lens
44. Muse - Origin of Symmetry
45. Iron Maiden - The Number of The Beast
46. Manic Street Preachers - Everything Must Go
47. Steel Pulse - Handsworth Revolution
48. The Cure - Disintegration
49. Dexys Midnight Runners - Searching For The Young Soul Rebels
50. Pet Shop Boys - Very
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Good question as far as the Depeche Mode and New Order go.
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I guess Elvis Costello isn't British anymore.

And no Pogues? C'mon!

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Oasis? WTF. I would have figured Stone Roses would be higher than that.
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So far, I agree with all of the above comments, so I'll mention I think Parklife should be higher, along with The Kinks are the Village Green Preservation Society.
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Originally posted by Burnt Alive
I guess Elvis Costello isn't British anymore.
Dear God, I completely forgot about him while looking over (in shock) at this list. And can someone please explain to me why Dexys Midnight Runners are on there?

Any albums from the following artists (that have shamelessly been omitted) could and should replace quite a few of the entries:

Siouxsie and the Banshees
The Beat
ABC
Eurythmics
Curve
Everything But The Girl
Tears For Fears
Echo and the Bunnymen
Love and Rockets
Erasure
Talk Talk

Like wendersfan, I'm thrilled they chose "Parklife" from Blur. And yes, it should be higher. Equally glad "The Queen is Dead" making the Top 10. One last shame on them for not including Depeche Mode's "Violator" or "Black Celebration".
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Originally posted by Daytripper
And can someone please explain to me why Dexys Midnight Runners are on there?
It's a great album - I listen to it all the time. Also, it's one of those albums, like the first Stone Roses album) that Brits seem to love a lot more than Americans.
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Well, glad to see The Jam's All Mod Cons on there. But yes, I agree that it's odd not to include anything from

Elvis Costello
Echo and the Bunnymen
Siouxsie and the Banshees
Depeche Mode


Still, that list is an admirable attempt to give equal weight to different eras and rock sub-genres.
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Well, this was probably a list by committee, so I take it with a grain of salt. Results always come out a little skewed.

(But Van Morrison is Irish.)
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No Housemartins or The Beautiful South...
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Originally posted by Daytripper
Siouxsie and the Banshees
The Beat
ABC
Eurythmics
Curve
Everything But The Girl
Tears For Fears
Echo and the Bunnymen
Love and Rockets
Erasure
Talk Talk

You brought up some other good ones I didn't even think of. And as Hiro11 said, My Bloody Valentine.
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Originally posted by fallow
(But Van Morrison is Irish.)
doesn't British include Ireland, Scotland, and England?
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Originally posted by Hollowgen
doesn't British include Ireland, Scotland, and England?


Great Britain=England, Wales and Scotland
(United Kingdom=the aforementioned plus Northern Ireland)

The Republic of Ireland (Eire) is not British...and even with many Scots and Welsh, you're liable to get a beatdown for calling them Brits. (and let's not even mention the Northern Irish which is a whole 'nother can of worms)

Reminds me of the credit card commercial where an English man pays with his British Airways card and the American sales lady says something like: "Oh, British?! Top o' the mornin' to ya! [in a butchered Irish accent] Don't I sound so British?" The man, of course, looks at her incredulously.

BTW: My Bloody Valentine=Irish
(and partially American, Kevin Shields was born in N.Y. moved to Ireland when he was 6 or so)

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If Irish meant British, I would have been extremely pissed about U2 not being on the list.

I like Oasis, but DM isn't as good as "(What's The Story) Morning Glory?" IMHO.
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Re: Q Magazine's 50 Best British Albums Ever

Originally posted by Daytripper
The latest "Best of" list. Have at it. Personally, I think number one is such a crock. It belongs on the list. But definitely not on top. And where the hell are Depeche Mode and New Order!???
Absolutely!!..couldn't agree more.

The Smiths - The Queen Is Dead..outside the top 5 (????)
The Cure - Disintegration #48 (????)

and then you have the likes of Super Furry Animals making the list...and no sign of Suede or Mansun making the list (?????)
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Yet another.... TOP TEN BRITISH ALBUMS OF ALL TIME

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/omm

1 The Stone Roses - The Stones Roses
2 Revolver - The Beatles
3 London Calling - The Clash (pictured)
4 Astral Weeks - Van Morrison
5 Sgt Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band - The Beatles
6 The White Album - The Beatles
7 Sticky Fingers - The Rolling Stones
8 Exile on Main Street - The Rolling Stones
9 Blue Lines - Massive Attack
10 Metal Box - PiL
Source: Observer Music Monthly
The greatest British album of all time was recorded by four young men from the north-west of England, armed with the rock'n'roll rudiments of guitar, bass and drums and an ear for an unforgettable refrain. But it was not by the Beatles. Nor Oasis. The honour goes to the Stone Roses.
The outcome of a poll carried out for today's Observer Music Monthly shows a departure from traditional 'best album' lists.

Ozzy Osbourne, Emma Bunton, Morrissey, Brian May and the Darkness's Justin Hawkins are among 100 musicians and industry experts who selected their 10 favourite British albums. The results were used to compile the definitive list of the 100 Greatest British Albums.

The Beatles' Revolver was pushed into second place by the Roses, Oasis's first album Definitely Maybe languishes at No 19 and John Lydon's rock group PIL beat the Sex Pistols to the top 10.

The Stone Roses' eponymous debut was declared a masterpiece by the music press on its release in 1989. Its trippy melodies captured the musical zeitgeist by melding the influences of acid house and the baggy sonics of 'Madchester'. Despite charting at No 39, it hung in the top 100 for more than a year.

Shock omissions from the list include Pulp, Queen and the Cure.

Jim DeRogatis, music critic for the Chicago Sun-Times, voiced his disbelief at the winner: 'You're going to champion that lame retread disco beat, that whiny singer, those oh-so-dated chiming guitars and all the lifted Simon and Garfunkelisms?'
The panel.
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They're still calling Van Morrison British!

Emma Bunton-musician? Industry expert-well, maybe.
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I guess the Pretenders are no longer a British band since Chrissie Hynde was born in Ohio. Even though she's lived in England since the mid-70's. I've seen "Learning to Crawl" on several best of (British) lists in the past. If they are still eligable, their first album should ABSOLUTELY be recognized as one of the all-time best.
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Emma Bunton's latest album, Free Me, is a very good go at 60s vocal pop (a la Astrud Gilberto). I think that she was a legitimate musician as a Spice Girl but her new album may sway you, as well.
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Originally posted by Hollowgen
doesn't British include Ireland, Scotland, and England?


Say that to the face of an Irish person and say goodbye to your teeth. (But then why is Van Morrisson on there?!)

Some interesting choices on the list. Definitely skewed a bit towards the newer stuff, but I much prefer that to lists where The Beatles occupy 5 of the top 10 spots. I'll have to check out some of the stuff on there that I haven't heard of.
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Originally posted by Hollowgen
doesn't British include Ireland, Scotland, and England?
Eire is within the geographical entity referred to as the British Isles but is not politically linked to its neighbours except by virtue of being a part of the European Union.

Edit: skimmed through the middle posts and so missed jarsim's. The shame of it!


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