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Supermallet 10-30-05 08:29 PM


Originally Posted by POWERBOMB
I used to work in a record store back in the day and when I had a customer ask for a recomendation of music "except country" I would be a smart ass and take them to clasical, latin, jazz or world music. After a few minutes and some questioning I suggested some country artists I tought they might like.

I don't get it, so they want anything but country, and when you show them stuff that isn't rock, suddenly they want country? I'd think that the customers would probably at that point just say "Why don't you just show me some good rock music?" or whatever genre they were looking for in the first place.

My tastes in country run toward Johnny Cash, Willie Nelson, and people like that. It's definitely one of those genres where I have a limited amount of artists I like, and am reluctant to deviate from those artists. I know I don't like all the Garth Brooks/Tim McGraw/Shania Twain/Dixie Chicks type people. In other words, new country. But sometimes some artists are able to channel some older country styles into their music and have it work really well. Best person who did this in the rock world was Graham Parsons.

But I'd be much more inclined to try out a new classical or world music artist than a country artist I haven't heard before.

illennium 10-30-05 08:54 PM

People who say "everything but A and B" usually are giving themselves too much credit or looking at the world of music too narrowly.

mndtrp 10-31-05 01:12 AM

I used to be in the 'everything but country' group, until the last year or so. I've since been exposed to something other than what is played on the radio, and I enjoy it much more than I originally thought.

However, I still haven't been able to find any R&B that I like. I'd say about everything else, I like.

DrRingDing 10-31-05 03:57 AM


Originally Posted by illennium
People who say "everything but A and B" usually are giving themselves too much credit or looking at the world of music too narrowly.

or maybe they just don't like what they hear?

as with everything in life, choice in music is personal preference. i won't slag on people who do listen to country, but it ain't my cup o' tea and i'll stand by that. or the same goes for metal. i don't like it because <i>to me</i> it has no beauty to it. it just sounds like anger being funnelled through a guitar. but that's my opinion and i won't hold it against somebody who does like it.

don't give yourself too much credit because you honestly like listening to everything (since you're disqualifying those who listen to everything "but a and b"). that's not meant as an attack, i'm just going on what you said.

going on what you said, as well, i do agree with you about the fact that some people are unintentionally or intentionally limiting themselves to a narrow band of music. but to each his/her own. i might try to slip something under their door but i'm not going to bust it down.

i have a friend who doesn't listen to music at all. he's a film editor and he barely knows about film and film history. it's astonishing to me that he's so out of the arts while simultaneously making money from it... but to each his own. i was actually dumbfounded when i asked him about music because everybody, even my brother who only has a small-ish cd collection, seems to like SOME music... but my friend, honest to god, couldn't identify a beatles song from a group consisting of one song from the Beatles, Pantera, U2 and Snoop Dogg... (that's an exaggeration but probably not too far from the truth) but i don't hold it against him. it's an endearing trait actually since music is such a fundamental part of my identity and it's not even a tiny part of his.

not to mention that there's just too much music out there to listen to every genre of music in equal proportion. there will always be something overlooked. i might like listening to classical music but it's something i only do for about 1 hour every two weeks. i mostly listen to rock and hip-hop because it's what suits me best. there was a point in my life where i mostly listened to ska and reggae. but now i barely listen to ska or reggae. and there's the matter of availability and knowledge of world music since we also seem to lapse into a narrow interpretation of music as that which is common in the Western world. the genres that we lump into "World Music" outnumber our Western-defined genres by a vast margin.. i mean, how often do you listen to Soca? or throat singers?

anyway, opinions are opinions and there's no reason to disqualify them since by their nature they cannot be disqualified for any reason.
-di doctor-

illennium 10-31-05 09:01 AM


Originally Posted by DrRingDing
don't give yourself too much credit because you honestly like listening to everything (since you're disqualifying those who listen to everything "but a and b"). that's not meant as an attack, i'm just going on what you said.

Sorry, I see now that my statement was unclear. I didn't mean that people should like A and B. People are free to like and dislike what they will. I meant that more than likely, they just don't even know about the existence of genres C, D, E, F, ... that if they did know about, they wouldn't like either. In other words, I'm not saying what people's tastes should be, just that the phrase "everything but A and B" is rarely an accurate description of them.

story 10-31-05 09:29 AM

Lick it, country. Lick it.

Paid for by the Guy Who Lived in Wyoming and Will Never Go Back Fund.

The Bus 10-31-05 09:40 AM

I use to say "everything but country and metal" --- now I have some Gram Parsons, Lucinda Williams, Ryan Adams...

But I have yet to find a good metal band. (I don't really like growling).

LiquidSky 11-01-05 07:23 AM

In the past couple of years, I have been getting into traditional country, bluegrass, and rockabilly.

I really like: Hank Williams Sr., Johnny Cash, The Carter Family, Buck Owens, Loretta Lynn, Wanda Jackson, Hank Williams III, June Carter, Emmylou Harris.

I still do not like the country/pop crap that is popular.

Geofferson 11-01-05 08:37 AM

I listen to country sparodically. I got into it in the mid-90s (along with most everyone else I know), but haven't followed it much in the past few years. I've always liked the classics and often listen to Johnny Cash, Hank Sr. and Waylon Jennings.

DodgingCars 11-01-05 11:04 AM

When I was younger, I probably used to say that. Now I realize I was just foolish. The funny thing is, the older I get, the more I get into country, bluegrass, americana, and folk. I've loved Bob Dylan, CCR, and The Band since I was 16, so it's kinda ironic that I still said I hated "country" music (they certainly are a flavor of it).

I think that Oh Brother Where Art Though really introduced me to bluegrass (as well has a ton of other people). I've been into it since. I really like Alison Kraus, Doc Watson, Ricky Skaggs, and Tim O'Brien. I recently bought The Cheiftains "Down the Old Plank Road" where they team up with country and bluegrass artists (I think they did 3 albums with American country artists). The Three Pickers is on its way to my house as we speak via Netflix.

In addition, I've been listening to stuff like Johnny Cash, Ryan Adams, The Green Cards, Bering Strait, Cold Mountain S/T, John Denver, Laura Cantrell, Elizabethtown S/T, Old 97s, Simon & Garfunkel, etc.

DodgingCars 11-01-05 11:06 AM


Originally Posted by The Bus
I use to say "everything but country and metal" --- now I have some Gram Parsons, Lucinda Williams, Ryan Adams...

But I have yet to find a good metal band. (I don't really like growling).

If you don't like Metallica "Master of Puppets" or "Ride the Lightning" it's probably safe to say you'd never like metal. :)

Supermallet 11-01-05 02:12 PM


Originally Posted by DodgingCars
If you don't like Metallica "Master of Puppets" or "Ride the Lightning" it's probably safe to say you'd never like metal. :)

Not to totally derail the thread, but I hate Ride The Lightning and Master of Puppets doesn't hold up to repeated listenings. But ...And Justice For All, that is a classic album.


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