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shaun3000 12-02-03 12:19 AM

Mainstream country sucks. The Dixie Chicks are about the only mainstream country band that are any good.

Real country, GOOD country, is the old stuff, and the Outlaw stuff. Johnny Cash, Willie Nelson, Waylon Jennings, Patsy Cline, Marty Robbins, THAT'S country. Listen to "I Walk the Line," "The Ballad of Ira Hayes," or The Red Headed Stranger and then tell me that country sucks.

johnbook 12-06-03 08:53 PM


Originally posted by Tarantino
I listen to everything except country.

I can find Reggae that I like. I can find Classical that I like.

No country though.


I listen to everything except rap/hip-hop.

I can find Reggae that i like. I can find Classical that i like.

No rap/hip-hop though.

conscience 12-06-03 09:27 PM

All you have to do is say

"well your loss, but i'd rather have more for me anyway."

And hardly anyone likes "everything except country". Most people that say that are 13 year olds or adults who are way to insecure with themselves.

Oh well I'll still keep blasting country music 'till the day I die. Redneck born and proud!

Jepthah 12-06-03 09:28 PM


Originally posted by shaun3000
Mainstream country sucks. The Dixie Chicks are about the only mainstream country band that are any good.

Real country, GOOD country, is the old stuff, and the Outlaw stuff. Johnny Cash, Willie Nelson, Waylon Jennings, Patsy Cline, Marty Robbins, THAT'S country. Listen to "I Walk the Line," "The Ballad of Ira Hayes," or The Red Headed Stranger and then tell me that country sucks.

:thumbsup: couldn't have said it any better myself. What's happened to country these days is similar to what's happened to most gangsta rap--it's become a parody of itself.

the aftermath 12-07-03 02:15 AM


Originally posted by conscience
Redneck born and proud!
I'm sorry to hear that.

Carry on with your Nascar watching and banjo playing ;)

msdmoney 12-07-03 04:24 AM


Originally posted by the aftermath
I'm sorry to hear that.

Carry on with your Nascar watching and banjo playing ;)

Lol, that reminds me of a quote a friend used to always say to get a Nascar enthusiast friend of ours angry. "Nascar is fast cars for slow minds." Sorry to any Nascar fans out there.

Back on topic

I used to be the one to say "anything but country" and for the most part that is still true, but I have found myself enjoying the occasional Garth Brooks song (specifically The Change) and occasional other artists. For the most part I can't take the twangy sound and I can't stand some of the "good old boys" type images any more than many people can take the "wanna be gangsta" images of rap music.

As for the music I would say "anything but ......" these days it would have to be punk music. I just can't relate to the "I am misunderstood" lyrics of most of the artists I have heard and they always sound like they are whining to me. Popular pop-punk bands like A Simple Plan certainly influence my distaste. Maybe I have just not been exposed to great artists in either country or punk?

Lateralus42 12-07-03 09:38 AM

I dont think most country fans even like real country. I was telling this guy at work who is a big 'country' fan that I liked the Brother Where art thou album and he called it boring. He is more into pop country rock crap a like achy breaky heart garbage, thats why country doesnt get much respect, they have abandoned their roots.

conscience 12-07-03 12:56 PM


Originally posted by the aftermath
I'm sorry to hear that.

Carry on with your Nascar watching and banjo playing ;)

:lol:

I'll try...come down and go to a race with me some day....very fun.


Oh and if you would like to go at it Deliverance style...fine by me. ;)

thismeansyou 12-07-03 05:38 PM


Originally posted by Lateralus42
...I liked the O Brother Where art thou album...
That's an awesome album.

And I dunno, I hear a lot more people say "everything except rap" than "everything except country" (though I do hear it). It doesn't bother me since it's they who are limiting their enjoyment by writing off a genre. I've never been a big country fan because it often seems too formulaic - the song topics, the way they write & sing, the instruments and arrangements used. Its funny how country fans are so fervently against rap when the faults of modern mainstream rap closely parallel the faults of modern mainstream country. Older country is great though; my dad listened to a lot of Marty Robbins and Johnny Cash, both of whom I love, and there's the occasional modern country song that are great as well.

msdmoney 12-07-03 07:29 PM


Originally posted by thismeansyou85
And I dunno, I hear a lot more people say "everything except rap" than "everything except country" (though I do hear it). It doesn't bother me since it's they who are limiting their enjoyment by writing off a genre. I've never been a big country fan because it often seems too formulaic - the song topics, the way they write & sing, the instruments and arrangements used. Its funny how country fans are so fervently against rap when the faults of modern mainstream rap closely parallel the faults of modern mainstream country.
Exactly what I was trying to say above but I think you definitely said it better.

Drexl 12-07-03 08:55 PM


Originally posted by SAShepherd
Why? Because country (and rap, that's the other genre that gets used in the phrase) is large enough to permeate the culture as a whole and therefore (unintentionally) reaches people who hate it. It's not like Dr. Pepper is using reggae and/or death metal to sell more product. ;)
That's about what I was thinking. I think they say it because they don't expect someone to actually suggest listening to classical or jazz. What they really mean is "anything popular except country."

DRG 12-07-03 11:08 PM

I said "everything except country" when I was younger as well, but this was mainly a backlash against our area. At the time 3/4 of the radio stations were country, and the only concerts we got within a 4 hour drive were country. It was everywhere, and the fact that the music I liked was NEVER played on the radio at the time combined with the fact that my dad liked country (how uncool!) put me off it. Fact is, I still don't like 90% of it, but there are some country songs I simply love now. And my dad teases me about it to no end. :)

POWERBOMB 12-08-03 12:03 AM

I remember riding around with a buddy and he listens to, I don't know what to call it but it is heavy on the guitars and the singer sounds as if he is passing an 15lb turd out his bunghole sideways.

Anyways, I change the station to country and he immediatly says it sucks. I started singing the song as if i were passing an 15lb turd out of my bunghole sideways and it sounded just like his music.

grrrah 12-09-03 01:09 PM

"No one listens to Techno!" -eminem

RoyalTea 10-27-05 03:35 PM

i still don't understand all the country music haters.

if I want to turn it to a country station on the radio, I think other people would honestly rather have me kick them in the balls.

weirdos.

Aphex Twin 10-27-05 03:40 PM

They probably have never heard The Man in Black.

atlantamoi 10-27-05 04:02 PM


Originally Posted by RoyalTea
i still don't understand all the country music haters.

if I want to turn it to a country station on the radio, I think other people would honestly rather have me kick them in the balls.

weirdos.

You say RADIO. I honestly can say I love country music, but if you turned on the radio and I had to listen to stuff like Brooks & Dunn then I'd not only rather be kicked in the nuts, but go ahead and rip them off as well.

LurkerDan 10-27-05 04:11 PM

Damn, if you had just waited 6 more weeks, this could have been a 2 year thread bump!

Gdrlv 10-27-05 07:22 PM

Well, I've been hounding her for such a long time
Trying to impress her with my hillbilly whine
But she told me I was barking up the wrong tree
She liked every kind of music but country.

Every kind of music but country
She liked it fast, she liked it loud, she liked it funky
She liked everything about me, 'cept for one thing
She liked every kind of music but country.


Well, I thought I had a big one on the line
She said listening to music was her favorite pastime.
But she told me I was trying to swim upstream
She liked every kind of music but country

She saw I had a guitar in my hand
But she thought I was a hick until the night she heard my band
And now she can't remember having told me
She liked every kind of music but country

Giantrobo 10-28-05 01:06 AM

I used to hate country and that would be my standard answer. But I've found that I really like older and classic country and I LOOOVE Bluegrass. I guess I've changed over the years. My Father liked Country and the like but I would always turn my nose to it.

Now my answer is "everything but Rap and R&B".

Michael Corvin 10-28-05 07:52 AM


Originally Posted by das Monkey
Because reggae and classical don't suck? ;)

It's probably because most Country artists (and the industry as a whole) have sold their souls to Pop. When people say "except Country," I doubt they mean traditional Country or Country/Western but the current form of the genre. They're still missing out, but not by much.

Really the only thing I don't listen to is Grindcore/Death Metal.

das

Spot on. I agree that it probably refers to anything since Garth Brooks hit the scene.

reverie 10-28-05 08:11 AM

I'm usually the "anything but country or rap" guy. But.. it is a generalization. Really, what I don't like about country is the southern vocalists. In music, I just can't stand that sound/accent.


Originally Posted by atlantamoi
If someone has heard a lot of rockabilly, Johnny Cash and late 50's rock music and still hates country music then I say more power to 'em. That saying means squat if all you're talking about is Shania Twain.

Funny that's brought up. I love rockabilly.. country I could usually do without. And a lot of my friends get on me because they say it's the same thing (it's not ;) ).

DrRingDing 10-30-05 03:17 PM

i usually say "everything except <i>contemporary</i> country (which to me means mass-marketed), metal and industrial." this is just my preference. to me, contemporary country just isn't audibly pleasing. i'd much rather spend my time listening to rock or alt-rap or indie or reggae or classical because it's what appeals to me most.

i like the influence country has had on some mainstream rock/pop artists - hell, i'm from mellencamp's new hometown (Bloomington as opposed to Seymour, Indiana) and he tends to throw in a bit of twang. ditto for the Eagles. i liked what country did for them. but what it didn't do was add the thick twang (this is a term i'm trying to use, but probably isn't the correct choice) to the voice, which is what i think truly annoys me about contemporary country.

i also like the old school country artists - hank williams being a primary example. he had a thick twang in his voice, but it also fit his more bluegrassy music. i don't mind the peripheral country music if it's more bluegrass and less pop. hell, if people want to recommend any bluegrass-country music to me, i'd be happy to give it a try.

fwiw, i like whiskeytown (also ryan adams) and alt-country (jayhawks) as well.

Brent L 10-30-05 04:43 PM

Most people who say that "everything except country" actually do love more of the genre than they actually think. Pretty much everyone that has said that to me in "real life", end up naming a ton of country music that they love. For some reason they just don't understand it.

I don't consider music in terms of genre anymore. I think of music in terms of quality. Like there's horrible music, cookie cutter, good, great, etc...

I used to say "everything except rap" and "everything except classical", but as I've grown older and I've stopped looking at music just in terms of genre, I've been opened up to an entire new world of music, spanning all types of music.

Anyone who thinks of Country and instantly refuses to listen to anything with that stamp on it, is seriously limiting their musical tastes. Just like with all other types of music, there is horrible country music and fantastic country music. The same can be said about all other musical genres.

The Infidel 10-30-05 05:45 PM

I've always said the opposite ends of the music spectrum are country and rap (or "crap"). Neither end takes a huge amount of talent to create, although I do appreciate each one's existance and what little each has to offer certain people. I'll even admit to liking rare instances of each genre.


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