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VH1's list of the "100 Greatest Songs of the Past 25 Years."

NEW YORK - Here they are now, entertaining us ó or at least entertaining VH1, which named Nirvana's "Smells Like Teen Spirit" the greatest song of the past quarter-century. The Seattle band's groundbreaking grunge anthem is No. 1 on VH1's list of the "100 Greatest Songs of the Past 25 Years."

The whole countdown will air over five nights, starting at 10 p.m. EDT Monday on the video music channel. The series will feature clips of videos and performances by the artists along with interviews from musicians and celebrities discussing why the songs matter.

Of "Smells Like Teen Spirit," Guns N' Roses bassist Duff McKagan (news) said: "That was really a breakthrough for a great scene that had been going on for a long time up in Seattle. And it was kind of another victory, I think, for a misunderstood music, you know. The dam broke when 'Teen Spirit' came out."

While no one performer or group dominated the countdown, which was chosen by a panel of VH1 executives, several had two songs featured.

Michael Jackson (news) had the second-highest song, "Billie Jean," and was at No. 40 with "Beat It." Eminem (news - web sites) reached No. 4 with "Lose Yourself," while his "My Name Is" was No. 85. Madonna (news - web sites)'s "Like a Virgin" was No. 10 and her "Ray of Light" was No. 100.

Rounding out the top 10 were "Sweet Child O' Mine" by Guns N' Roses, "One" by U2, "Walk This Way" by Run-D.M.C., "When Doves Cry" by Prince, "I Will Always Love You" by Whitney Houston (news) and "Every Breath You Take" by The Police.

In May 2001, VH1 picked the 100 greatest videos of all time; Jackson's "Thriller," a 17-minute mini-movie, was No. 1, but it didn't even make the list this time.
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lose yourself at no 4!!!!
The song aint that good or important
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Nirvana at numebr 1. What crap.

It doesn't surprise me, though. This list is by VH1, which in turn is part of MTV, which is responsible for the downfall of music today.

Nirvana was the first MTV-made success act. The execs decided that this was the new thing, and they forced it on the public. This so-called "alternative" scene (how can you be alternative when you're mainstream? A total conflict of terms), and Nirvana was chosen to be the band to get the glory.
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Nirvana was the first MTV-made success act. The execs decided that this was the new thing, and they forced it on the public. This so-called "alternative" scene (how can you be alternative when you're mainstream? A total conflict of terms), and Nirvana was chosen to be the band to get the glory.
Well I might not put Nirvana numer one myself. But with dreck like Madonna's Like a Virgin and Whitney Houston's I Will Always Love You in the top ten, Smells Like Teen Spirit is a breath of fresh air.

The difference between MTV today and MTV of Nirvana's time is negligible. They have just drilled down their demographics so narrowly it's silly. MTV has always tried to "make" certain music popular. In the early days there were no Black artists' videos played. Today there are so few white bands played I often joke with my friends they should change their name to BMTV. Which when you think about it is perfect
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Only one U2 song in the last 25 years.
Each song from The Joshua Tree album could be in the top ten. VH1/MTV
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Originally posted by JestersTear
Nirvana at numebr 1. What crap.
Well, that's your opinion, and I'd say your opinion is wrong. I'm not saying it should be number 1, but it's a very important song and it's also a great song.
Nirvana was the first MTV-made success act.
You weren't around in the '80's, I take it.

The execs decided that this was the new thing, and they forced it on the public. .
So they forced Nirvana on the public, rather than Poison, Skid Row, Warrant, etc...?

This so-called "alternative" scene (how can you be alternative when you're mainstream? A total conflict of terms), and Nirvana was chosen to be the band to get the glory.
The underground music scene had been simmering throughout the '80's, and it was inevitable that eventually one of the bands would break. Nirvana happened to be in the right place at the right time, had great songs, a tight sound, and a photogenic and charismatic frontman.[/B][/QUOTE]
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*sigh*

yet another stupid list from VH1...

as if Nirvana in number one didn't do it, they definitely lost me with their choice for number four...

move along -- nothing to see here..
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Originally posted by wendersfan
Well, that's your opinion, and I'd say your opinion is wrong. I'm not saying it should be number 1, but it's a very important song and it's also a great song.

You weren't around in the '80's, I take it.

So they forced Nirvana on the public, rather than Poison, Skid Row, Warrant, etc...?

The underground music scene had been simmering throughout the '80's, and it was inevitable that eventually one of the bands would break. Nirvana happened to be in the right place at the right time, had great songs, a tight sound, and a photogenic and charismatic frontman.
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Why yes, I was around in the 80's. MTV was still forming at the time, and while they were playing videos, they weren't dictating what got played everywhere else.

Smells Like Teen Spirit ushered in the death of the entire 80's scene, both rap and rock. MTV used that song to become a force in dictating what the masses would and would not listen to.

MTV didn't abandon 80's acts because people didn't want to see their videos anymore. MTV decided to kill the genre. I specifically remember the story Warrant told me, about how they were practically bankrupt. Turns out their contract called for THREE hit album releases. They got the first two under their belts, and then when it came time for the third, MTV told them "Don't bother sending us your videos, we're not going to play that music anymore." With no support the third album failed, they defaulted on their contracts, and were still touring 10 years later to pay off the losses.

And Nirvana had a tight sound? I'm sorry, but the band knew all of 3 chords, and all Cobain could do was whine about how much life sucked. The only talented person in that band was Grohl.
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Originally posted by JestersTear
Smells Like Teen Spirit ushered in the death of the entire 80's scene, both rap and rock.
Rock? Hair metal got the heave-ho, its formula for success having become completely stale and played out. But quality rock bands, such as U2, Metallica, Aerosmith, made it through that stage due to their actual talent. Hair metal was all just style, no substance. Kiss had a good idea with it in the seventies, and put on great shows. But to their own admissions, they were in it to get famous and bang playmates and groupies all day long. By the late eighties, hair metal was just an old, bad, cheap act. People were looking for fresh alternatives including rap so it didn't die then either, in fact, rap itself evolved at that time as well. Nirvana was simply at the right place at the right time with the right sound. The song they used to spearhead that change was "Teen Spirit" which should and does get the accolades.
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Complete list:

100) Madonna - Ray Of Light
99) Norah Jones - Donít Know Why
98) Hanson - MMMBop
97) Devo - Whip It
96) Beastie Boys - (You Gotta) Fight For Your Right (To Party!)
95) Oasis - Wonderwall
94) Cheap Trick - Surrender
93) Nine Inch Nails - Closer
92) Salt 'N Pepa - Push It
91) Melissa Etheridge - Come To My Window
90) The Police - Roxanne
89) Pat Benatar - Hit Me With Your Best Shot
88) Metallica - Enter Sandman
87) The Who - Who Are You
86) Tracy Chapman - Fast Car
85) Eminem - My Name Is
84) Radiohead - Creep
83) Band Aid - Do They Know Itís Christmas
82) Soft Cell - Tainted Love
81) OutKast - Ms. Jackson
80) Duran Duran - Hungry Like The Wolf
79) Destinyís Child - Say My Name
78) Green Day - Good Riddance (Time Of Your Life)
77) Missy Elliott - Work It
76) Eurythmics - Sweet Dreams (Are Made Of This)
75) The Ramones - I Wanna Be Sedated
74) Hall & Oates - I Canít Go For That (No Can Do)
73) L.L. Cool J - Mama Said Knock You Out
72) John Lennon - (Just Like) Starting Over
71) Dave Matthews Band- Crash Into Me
70) Culture Club - Do You Really Want to Hurt Me
69) Mary J. Blige - Real Love
68) Chic - Good Times
67) John Cougar Mellencamp - Jack And Diane
66) Squeeze - Tempted
65) Nelly - Hot In Herre
64) The Knack - My Sharona
63) Beck - Loser
62) Pretenders - Brass In Pocket
61) Backstreet Boys - I Want It That Way
60) Santana feat Rob Thomas - Smooth
59) Meat Loaf-Paradise By The Dashboard Light
58) The Notorious B.I.G. feat. Puff Daddy & Mase- Mo Money Mo Problems
57) Eric Clapton - Tears In Heaven
56) Sheryl Crow - All I Wanna Do
55) Talking Heads - Once In A Lifetime
54) Goo Goo Dolls - Iris
53) Marvin Gaye - Sexual Healing
52) The Rolling Stones - Start Me Up
51) George Michael - Faith
50) Lenny Kravitz - Are You Gonna Go My Way?
49) Journey - Donít Stop Believiní
48) Naughty By Nature - O.P.P.
47) Shania Twain - Youíre Still The One
46) Queen and David Bowie - Under Pressure
45) Aerosmith -I Donít Want To Miss A Thing
44) Gloria Gaynor - I Will Survive
43) The Go-Goís - Our Lips Are Sealed
42) Blondie - Heart Of Glass
41) Red Hot Chili Peppers - Under The Bridge
40) Michael Jackson - Beat It
39) Tom Petty - Free Falliní
38) The Clash - London Calling
37) Alicia Keys - Falliní
36) Joan Jett - I Love Rock ĎN Roll
35) The Sugarhill Gang - Rapperís Delight
34) Peter Gabriel - In Your Eyes
33) Tina Turner - Whatís Love Got To Do With It
32) Pearl Jam - Jeremy
31) Dr. Dre featuring Snoop Dogg - Nuthiní But A ďGĒ Thang
30) Janet Jackson - Nasty
29) Bruce Springsteen - Born In The U.S.A.
28) Britney Spears - ÖBaby One More Time
27) Grandmaster Flash - The Message
26) Bon Jovi - Liviní On A Prayer
25) Rick James - Super Freak
24) Celine Dion - My Heart Will Go On
23) Prince - Little Red Corvette
22) Cyndi Lauper - Time After Time
21) U2 - With Or Without You
20) AC/DC - You Shook Me All Night Long
19) Public Enemy - Fight The Power
18) R.E.M. - Losing My Religion
17) Def Leppard - Photograph
16) No Doubt - Donít Speak
15) Pink Floyd - Another Brick In The Wall (Part 2)
14) Sinead OíConnor - Nothing Compares 2 U
13) TLC - Waterfalls
12) Alanis Morissette - You Oughta Know
11) Van Halen - Jump
10) Madonna - Like A Virgin
09) The Police - Every Breath You Take
08) Whitney Houston - I Will Always Love You
07) Prince & The Revolution - When Doves Cry
06) Run-D.M.C. - Walk This Way
05) U2 - One
04) Eminem - Lose Yourself
03) Guns Ní Roses - Sweet Child Oí Mine
02) Michael Jackson - Billie Jean
01) Nirvana - Smells Like Teen Spirit
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My god that list is bad, but here are the high points
The Sugarhill Gang Rapperís Delight
The Knack, my Sherona
Pink Floyd Another Brick in the Wall pt. 2 :thumbs up:
Nelly Hot in Heere
Norah Jones Don't Know Why
Hanson MMBop (worst song ever!!!)
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Does anybody think they could come up with a top 100 list that everyone would agree on?
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Originally posted by RoyalTea
Does anybody think they could come up with a top 100 list that everyone would agree on?
Of course not. Music fans are notoriously close minded, and think that whatever they listen to is great and everything else "sucks" or is "crap". I have been as guilty of these transgressions as anyone, so I speak from personal experience.
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at Teen Spirit.
at Nirvana
at Crap Cobain
at this list.
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These lists serve two purposes..
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    My own, highly biased list that I threw together in about twenty minutes (in no particular order). All of these were released after 1978:
    1. Clash- Rudie Canít Fail
    2. Sonic Youth- Teenage Riot
    3. Pulp- Common People
    4. Smashing Pumpkins- 1979
    5. Tribe Called Quest- Award Tour
    6. My Bloody Valentine- Only Shallow
    7. Cheap Trick- Surrender
    8. REM- End of the World As We Know It
    9. Motley Crue- Looks that Kill
    10. Cars- My Best Friendís Girl
    11. Blondie- Heart of Glass
    12. Gary Numan- Cars
    13. Chemical Brothers- Chemical Beats
    14. Moby- Felling So Real
    15. Shannon- Let the Music Play
    16. Foo Fighters- Everlong
    17. Talking Heads- Once in a Lifetime
    18. Prince- When Doveís Cry
    19. Weezer- Simple Pages
    20. Don Henley- Boys of Summer
    21. Boston- More Than a Feeliní
    22. Kraftwerk- Computer Love
    23. Ministry- Jesus Built my Hotrod
    24. Beck- Devilís Haircut
    25. The Laís- There She Goes
    26. The Cure- Pictures of You
    27. The Smiths- The Boy with The Thorn in His Side
    28. The Sundays- Hereís Where the Story Ends
    29. New Order- Blue Monday
    30. Joy Division- Love Will Tear Us Apart
    31. Magnetic Fields- Donít Want to Get Over You
    32. Sebadoh- Freed Pig
    33. Dinosaur Jr.- The Wagon
    34. Pixies- Where is My Mind
    35. XTC- Grass
    36. Love and Rockets- No New Tale to Tell
    37. Def Leppard- Photograph
    38. The Police- Donít Stand so Close to Me
    39. AC/DC- Shook me All Night Long
    40. Joe Jackson- Is She Really going Out With Him
    41. The Jam- Thatís Entertainment
    42. Elvis Costello- Less Than Zero
    43. The Pretenders- Back on the Chain Gang
    44. Blur- Parklife
    45. Pavement- Summer Babe
    46. Liz Phair- **** and Run
    47. PJ Harvey- Rid of Me
    48. Cypress Hill- Hand on the Pump
    49. Outkast- B.O.B.
    50. Beastie Boys- Shake your Rump
    51. Go-Gos- Our Lips are Sealed
    52. X- The Worldís a Mess (itís in my kiss)
    53. The Church- Under the Milky Way
    54. Nirvana- Smells like Teen Spirit
    55. Janeís Addiction- Been Caught Stealing
    56. U2- I Still havenít Found What Iím Looking For
    57. The Verve- Bittersweet Symphony
    58. Stone Roses- She Bangs the Drums
    59. Tom Petty- Here Comes My Girl
    60. Bruce Springsteen- Born in the USA
    61. The Pogues- Pair of Brown Eyes
    62. English Beat- Mirror in the Bathroom
    63. Bob Marley- Redemption Song
    64. Van Halen- Panama
    65. Peter Gabriel- Big Time
    66. Devo- Whip It
    67. Replacements- Bastards of Young
    68. Bjork- Hyperballad
    69. Mission of Burma- Thatís When I Reach for My Revolver
    70. Camper Van Beethoven- Take the Skinheads Bowling
    71. Violent Femmes- Blister in the Sun
    72. Tears for Fears- Everybody Wants to Rule the World
    73. Flaming Lips- Race for the Cure
    74. Breeders- Cannonball
    75. Soundgarden- Rusty Cage
    76. Jesus and Mary Chain- Happy When it Rains
    77. Neutral Milk Hotel- Ghost
    78. Manic Street Preachers- Yes
    79. Husker Du- Makes no Sense At All
    80. Arrested Development- Tennesee
    81. Alice in Chains- Dam That River
    82. Mercury Rev- Tonight, It Shows
    83. Slint- Good Morning, Captain
    84. Sinead OíConnor- The Emporerís New Clothes
    85. Fleetwood Mac- Gypsy
    86. The Cult- She Sells Sanctuary
    87. DJ Shadow- Building Steam with a Grain of Salt
    88. Squeeze- Black Coffee in Bed
    89. Queen- Another One Bites the Dust
    90. Radiohead- Let Down
    91. Sigur Ros- Ńgaetis Byrjun
    92. Massive Attack- Angel
    93. Prodigy- Smack my Bitch Up
    94. Guns N Roses- Paradise City
    95. Dr. Octagon- Blue Flowers
    96. Gorillaz- Clint Eastwood
    97. Nine Inch Nails- Closer
    98. White Stripes- Black Math
    99. Luna- Chinatown
    100. Ultra Vivid Scene- Special One

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    Funny how two songs on the top ten are covers. "Walk this Way" by Run DMC and "I will Always Love You" by Whitney Huston.
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    Originally posted by mwj
    I often joke with my friends they should change their name to BMTV.
    I call it BMTV too, of couse, I think BM stands for something else.
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    How in the HELL can that Eminem song be at #4!!! The 4th best song in the past 25 years!!
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    Originally posted by MJKTool
    How in the HELL can that Eminem song be at #4!!! The 4th best song in the past 25 years!!
    It's "most important", not best or most popular.

    "Lose Yourself" was the first rap song to win an Oscar for best original song. That's a pretty big deal, but I don't know about being #4.

    I'm really wondering what that Nelly song is doing there.
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    I call it BMTV too, of couse, I think BM stands for something else.

    Well that was exactly what I meant too!
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    Smells Like Teen Spirit was certainly the most influential song of the last 25 years, single handedly brought an end to the big hair bands.

    It brought about a major change in what people listened to; soon after everbody was listening to "alternative" (which was by then mainstream).
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    Originally posted by Heat
    Smells Like Teen Spirit was certainly the most influential song of the last 25 years, single handedly brought an end to the big hair bands.
    It was the most influential rock song of the last 25 years. The most influential song would probably be "The Breaks" by Kurtis Blow or "Rapper's Delight" by the Sugarhill Gang. Whether you like it or not, the biggest story in popular music in the last quarter century has been the development of hip-hop.

    Just to keep the argument flowing, my five (I'm lazy) greatest songs of the last 25 years:

    1. "Love Will Tear Us Apart" - Joy Division
    2. "(White Man In) Hammersmith Palais - The Clash
    3. "Fake Plastic Trees" - Radiohead
    4. "Common People" - Pulp
    5. "Blue Monday" - New Order
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    my biast list
    1. back in black acdc
    2. rapper's delight sugarhill gang
    3. another brick in the wall pt 2
    4. smells like teen spirit nirvana
    5. welcome to the jungle guns & roses.
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    "Love Will Tear Us Apart" is not on the list.

    What a crime.

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