Kurt Cobain's Death
 

How do you think Kurt died?

He killed himself. He got a shotgun and killed himself. I recommend anyone not convinced of his psychotic fits to read the recently published "Journals".

:confused: has something new developed to think other than a suicide?

Where's the "He's still alive and living with Jim Morrison in Africa" option?

He was MURDERED...

I have "KURT COBAIN JOURNALS" [book]

I'm reading Heavier Than Heaven right now. If you haven't already read it it's a pretty good book.

Would you like to elaborate?? I don't have the book or anything, just curious....

This is a very well written book HOWEVER do not take the fact totally to heart. Courtney Love also helped on alot of the facts. i would read this as a book not as a biography

Tom Grant's Kurt Cobain Case Outline

A site dedicated to finding out the truth

I reccomend these sites for anyone who thinks he commited suicide or for people who want to learn more about his murder.

I watched a show a couple of years ago about a detective convinced Cobain was murdered. He brought up some very interesting points.

1. Why was the suicide letter wrote in two different handwritings.
2. Cobain pulling out of the Lalapolooza tour cost a lot of people a lot of money. Which happend to make some people mad.
3. With the amount of heroin that was in Cobain's system, even the most hardcore addicts would have a hard time functioning much less shooting themselves with a shot gun.

There were also things that pointed at Courtney Love being involved but this show was several years ago and I don't remember everything.

Also, if I remember correctly, there were no fingerprints on the bullets. Why would a person committing suicide take the time to wipe off the bullets?

I read a book or two about a possible conspiracy. A lot of what they bring up are very interesting points. However, until I hear something concrete I'll continue to belive that it was suicide.

Where was twikoff that day?;)

"Back and to the left. Back and to the left."

Keep it up, guys. I'm crackin' up. Any more loony websites for me to visit?

I can't say for sure that it was a suicide, and I can't say for sure that it was murder - mainly because I wasn't there to see it.

Here's the scary thing: maybe someone scared Cobain into writing the note (blackmail?) and forced him to kill himself. Without Cobain's word on the subject, the world would naturally think: suicide.

To me, that's the scariest thing of all: having the world think one thing when the reality is wholly different, and you're dead and you can't change the public opinion.

I've always thought That Courtney Love had him killed. I mean come on, it made her career. Then again, I love conspiracy theories ;)

That Francis Bean was a spitting image of her father at age 2 (?) - wonder how she's doing nowadays. They're keeping her very low-key, unlike Blanket Jackson.

I think it was suicide. I also think, regardless of whether he'd become famous or not, he probably would've eventually killed himself. Seemed like a very depressed person.

I honestly think Kurt Cobain did commit suicide. There were so many signs previous to his death that he was very unhappy. You could see it in just about every interview he was in, plus he attempted to kill himself with pills just about a month before he shot himself.

Reverse vampires.

SUICIDE!

Thank you, Ralph Wiggum. You just made me inhale water and I cannot stop laughing/coughing/choking on water. I am suprised to see that here, but now pissed I did not think of it first.

I think it was the dogs, or bees, or dogs that have bees in their mouths and when they bark they.....i forget the rest of it.

But where's Francis Bean? Is she a stripper yet?

Not for nothing, but if Kurt Cobain suffered from depression, and if he suffered from a stomach disorder (that was his excuse for taking heroin), he could have received treatment for those things. He was, after all, very rich, and he could have relocated to a brighter and cheerier atmosphere than SEATTLE, the most depressing place in America due to the bad and gloomy weather.

Suicide after making it as the most influencial rock star of the 90's WHILE ALIVE seems sooo lame that I really want to believe it was murder.

Nick Broomfield's Kurt & Courtney raises some interesting questions, but I believe he committed suicide.

I saw a documentary a year ago investigating the possible murder of Cobain. It started out as a "lets find proof that he was really murdered" kind of thing and the director/producers ended up believing that it really was a suicide and the evidence to suggest murder just wasn't there. Some of the murder theorists were more than a little crazed if I remember correctly.

They did interview a medical examiner and his position was that it might have been difficult, but that the amount of heroin in Cobains body would not have kept him from shooting himself.

Courtney Love was very upset about the whole documentary and attempted to get the filming shut down. She blackmailed the films financiers and several of them dropped out. The documentary ended with Courtney Love receiving a free speech award at some presentation. The director was in the audience and was able to ask her (it was like a press conference I think) if she felt it was hypocritical that she was getting this award while trying to shut up his film at the same time. Pretty funny stuff.

Mordred

This sounds like it was Kurt & Courtney. If it is than it's available on DVD.

i find it interesting that he mentioned Freddie Mercury in his suicide letter,something about Freddies enthusiasm when he takes the stage,


but wasn't Freddie Mercury already dead when Curt took his life??



ts

That was indeed "Kurt And Courtney" which I mentioned in my previous post.

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The true story of
the Kurt Cobain
murder, and the
Courtney Love,
El Duce,
Allen Wrench
connection
El Duce - connected Courtney Love with the assasin

I have friends that know allen wrench was hired by courtney love to kill kurt cobain. allen wrench was even named by el duce / mentors as the killer
Towards the end of his life El Duce ... lead singer of the punk rock group THE MENTORS,was a RIVERSIDE local. He would often be seen at local shows, bars, and various places. He was a person you could always just walk up and talk to. El Duce was definitly a 'punk rock star' of the people. The person Duce was always with was another punk rock pesonality in his own right ... ALLEN WRENCH. Allen Wrench was known for other reasons. His musical background was from an old band that rocked ... ROAD WHORE (which had some members of WHITE FLAG and CHRISTIAN DEATH). Mr. Wrench was also known for random violence. Like El Duce, Wrench himself was always drunk. And when provoked, or challenged, reacted with instant violence. He was not a nice guy.
I met El Duce at a local Riverside bar called the 6060 club in 1998. It's not open anymore. I had seen Duce around for many years, and had been a fan of his band. I bought him a few drinks, and he told me was leaving the next day to tour with his band. A month later I saw him there again. He was drinking and seemed totally drunk. Everyone knew about his involvement with the whole KURT COBAIN / COURTNEY LOVE thing, and he was about to tell me something he hadn't told anyone before.

Everyone knows about how Courtney Love offered El Duce $50,000. to kill her husband Kurt Cobain. But that wasn't the whole story. The truth of the matter is ... El Duce didn't have the stomach to kill someone. But he knew someone that did. That's when Allen Wrench comes into the picture. The Mentors were going on tour, so that gave Duce a good excuse to back out of the deal. So what he did was put Courtney love in contact with Mr. Wrench. Allen Wrench has never admitted to El Duce or anyone else about killing Cobain, but Duce was 100% sure that that's what happened.

Allen Wrench before, was always poor. He was a drunk guy who was always broke. Then, all of a sudden I heard that he bought a house, a new truck, and a 70's Corvette. He had a lot of money too fast. I think he got the money from Courtney Love for killing Kurt Cobain.
Wrench is also a gun nut. I know people that have hung out with him, and they told me he carries a .44 magnum hand gun where ever he goes. I've even seen a fight he was in at a Riveride bar called Limuricks. Wrench got in a fight with a guy that was about 6'4" tall. The guy tried to punch Wrench but missed. Then Wrench did some kind of judo throw and while they were rolling around on the ground Wrench started choking the guy, and the guy went unconscious. We all thought the guy was dead. Wrench left and then the guy woke up. He didn't even know where he was at.
Two nights before he died I saw Duce at a bar ... He was really depressed, scared and paniced. Duce had told me about an interview he had just done with the BBC about the Kurt Cobain murder. Like always duce was drunk during the interview. He slipped and mentioned that he knew who the real killer was. And then he named Allen Wrench. I know a guy who was watching the interview as it was being filmed, That person told Wrench that Duce had named him as Cobain's killer. The next thing I know ... El Duce is dead, and he was with Allen wrench up until the last minutes of his life. I recently talked to a guy who was living with Duce at the time. He told me, the night Duce had died, Allen Wrench had come over to their house all pissed off and looking for Duce. He said as soon as he saw Duce, he drug him outside and wrench began yelling and pushing Duce. And then they left. The next thing the guy heard was that Duce was dead, hit by a train 10 minutes after he had left the house with Wrench.
From all the information I've gotten from people I know, I am totally convinced Allen Wrench killed Kurt Cobain for Courtney Love. He got a lot of money for doing it. And after Duce exposed Wrench as Cobain's killer, Wrench also killed Duce. Please understand why I don't mention my name, but I had to get this off my chest.





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