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Old 08-30-02, 12:23 AM
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Thoughts on the VMA's a/k/a who put on the lamest performance?

1. First I'd like to thank MTV so very, very much for showing the awards on some new format that resembled a 3" x 2" streaming video box on my dial-up AOL connection. Just "adored" the slow motion, trudging through syrup look of the show. It made the lip-synching almost believable. (Hey, I said almost.)

2. Did Britney raid that guy from Judas Priest's closet? So the 1970's Village People leatherman look is now hip again? You mean finally I can wear my leather man-bra out in public? (grunter does the pee-pee dance of joy)

3. Um, Michael, I don't know how to tell you this buh-ddy. But you, um, weren't actually receiving an award. The script-writer for Britney was using a deft turn of speech to refer to you - the former "MTV Artist of the Century" and self-proclaimed "King of Pop" - as the "Artist of the Millenium." The treble clef tchotchke that you picked up and immediately started re-reading your Grammy award acceptance speech from 1983 for was just a piece of decoration - a cheap throwaway stage prop. As much as it would sate your gargantuan ego, you don't actually get an award just for "being." Too bad the plastic surgery doesn't work on brain cells.

4. David Lee Roth. David, David, David. Good ol' Diamond Davey. How to put this? Maybe, just maybe, you shouldn't be seen in public until you find a cure for this terrible wasting sickness that's apparently making your head shrink up like an antique apple-core doll? I mean - even Sammy "I Can't Drive 55" Hagar was embarrassed to be seen anywhere near you. At least with your hair nearly pure white naturally, you must be saving a bundle on peroxide. Perhaps you should put some of that savings into an oufit that actually belonged to one of the last two decades?

5. Here's a little nostalgia trip. Remember those jars of jelly beans on the counter of the corner grocery store with the sign in front that said "Guess the Number of Beans and Win a Prize!" Let's play the VMA version. Exactly how much money did the combined agents of Shakira, BBK (B2K? BKK?), and Ashanti put up to have their clients' names splashed all over the awards categories like they were brand-name sponsors? Apparently the VMAs this year were brought to you by Taco Bell, Mitsubishi (the car choice of epileptics everywhere), Shakira's "smooth n' creamy" Shakes, BBK's new "BBK Broiler" and Ashanti's "Burritos the Size of Your Head!" Why should I care about these nobodies? Oh right - because they have the biggest advertising budgets. My bad.

6. It's official. Samantha Fox has become the most influential and the most imitated artist from the 1980's. Not Madonna. Not Cyndi Lauper. Not Belinda Carlisle. But Samantha "She Put the "X" in Sex" friggin' Fox. Britney, Christina, Shakira, Pink - they all want to dress just like her. They all want to pout just like her. They all want to skank just like her. They all want to squeeze the striptease pole between their thighs just like her. They all want to vamp about in the sleaziest barely there-wear under gauzy glow-lamps. Let's see how quickly these female ventriloquist dummies spread their legs for the softcore porn industry in the coming years.

7. Justin, baby, those were some seriously nice poppin' and lockin' moves. Maybe you and fellow 'NSYNCer Joey could try out for the chorus of "Rent" together. Just be sure to return Micheal's "Moonwalker" costume, circa 1988. And watch out for that onset of puberty. The vocal track you were lip-synching to very nearly squeaked with gurgling testosterone whenever you hit that "false-etto" hook.

8. Eminem. First you threaten to beat down a bald, vegan munchkin. Then you beat tracks from a rubber dog hand-puppet. Who's next on your hit list? Weird "Al?" Carrot-top? The "Where's the Beef? lady? Next time - how about picking on someone who's at least relevant?

9. Axl - it's over. You never could dance. Now you can't even sing. Take that synthetic white-boy dreadlock wig off your skull and just pack it in. If that dirge of a seque (with lyrics ripped directly from your most recent psycho-therapy session) was your idea of the future of G n' R, then this past decade as a bitter white-trash elf of leisure have taken far more of a toll than we'd ever imagined. You'd think that after all this time, Axl'd at least have mastered the art of keeping the monitor in his ear. But nooooooooo . . . Welcome to the obsolescence, my dear. Worst VMA performance EVER.

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First of all, post.

Secondly, I started watching [this repeat] right when Dave & Sammy come out. I haven't seen too many of the "events" you've described above. But so far this whole thing is like a car wreck. You don't wanna watch, but you find youself drawn to it.

Puffy sucked.
Eminem sucked. [not that i was expecting that much from either...]

Who's that chick that presented with Lisa Marie? She was cool -- "Yeah. What she said."

Oh, and Jennifer's been working on that ass. It's growing.

BTW...has anyone checked out the MTV boards? I was just curious what their main demographic thought of the show....
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I thought the best performance was.........

Eminem.

That said, it seemed that the longer the show went, the more pissed he got. I just don't get his thing with Moby. Moby is fricken harmless. I mean, I like Em because he actually has some balls with his lyrics and such, but the triumph dog thing and the moby ish while he was accepting an award after Aguilera started **** (and what the f was she wearing? She's getting nastier each day...ick). Em just needed to shut up...

On a side note, the vines and the hives eat. bad too. why can't they push a group like them that actually has talent and hasn't been around for 2 months like these other guys? Where is the International Noise Conspiracy? How about Girlschool? All the hives and vines and even the strokes do for that matter is stuff that other bands did before and better.

The chick with Lisa Marie is Avril Levine, and she's so so so so so hot...but it seemed like she was a little pissy with what she was supposed to say...
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Jesus christ....GNR....what the hell was that.

Man I cant believe how AWFUL AXL sounded. He sounded like Mickey Mouse, seriously, like Mickey Mouse. It actually does sadden me, and was hard watching this, as I once Idolized GNR ...absolute worst performance I have ever witnessed in my life.

Oh yeah Em is fking cool man he is so cool!!!! Picking on a middle aged man and cusing out a plastic puppet...
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I watched 15 minutes of the first of many re-runs around the segments involving the Olsen Twins, Anothony of the RHCP, and the performance of Ja Rule and the "Chick."

I can't believe how dead this crowd was. Nothing was exciting and the only bigger Jack-asses' than the guys from Jack-ass is the writers. This show is extremely lame.

I will force myself eventually to watch the whole thing, but I can tell I'm not gonna like it much.
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Originally posted by lordzeppelin
I thought the best performance was.........

Eminem.

That said, it seemed that the longer the show went, the more pissed he got. I just don't get his thing with Moby. Moby is fricken harmless. I mean, I like Em because he actually has some balls with his lyrics and such, but the triumph dog thing and the moby ish while he was accepting an award after Aguilera started **** (and what the f was she wearing? She's getting nastier each day...ick). Em just needed to shut up...

On a side note, the vines and the hives eat. bad too. why can't they push a group like them that actually has talent and hasn't been around for 2 months like these other guys? Where is the International Noise Conspiracy? How about Girlschool? All the hives and vines and even the strokes do for that matter is stuff that other bands did before and better.

The chick with Lisa Marie is Avril Levine, and she's so so so so so hot...but it seemed like she was a little pissy with what she was supposed to say...
Just saw the Em/Moby thing. Perhaps he should stick to rapping about his crackhead mom? To actually GET UP and raise up on Triumph? Pathetic.

I don't know too much about the hives/vines music. I've just heard about them being "the next big thing" [Sorry Brock ]. As far as this performance...i'd have to go with the first band. Even with their name behind them I still forgot it.

I think that half of the problem with the music industry today, is WAY too much "image", not enough "talent". [Christina is a good example -- at least Brandy didn't have to pay for hers...]
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During the post show, B2K3DVC or whatever said the show was good & they're ready for next year.

Don't they remember the immortal words of Chris Rock?

"Here Today. Gone Today."

BTW...could MTV maybe get Chris back for next year?
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GRUNTER...........excelent post !

Is it me,or do these awards on MTV get worse and worse?

For one,I think they need to rename it to the Hip-Hop award show or maybe the Source II awards.
Were there any rock nominations?
I mean rock music,not rock and turntables.

The whole EMINEM thing............
This guy just eats up all the attention he can get.
Funny how he can talk all that $hit about people,yet when it comes his turn,he cant handle it.
Talkin smack to a hand puppet,who is really done by some old scrawny guy,big props to EMINEM for being so cool ....pppffffttt
If we were so lucky,maybe AXL got a little drunk and slapped him in the head a little while holdin up his pants with one hand and sippin his Kool-aid with the other.
That kid just needs a good ass whooooopin!

The rest of the show was as fun as watching paint dry.
Same type of music,different catagory.
We will see the same people win the same thing next year and year after that.

There is one good thing about this award show that is the best thing every year,,....................WE GET TO SEE MUSIC VIDEO'S!!!!!!
Some even more than they play on TRL!
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grunter, I'm going to guess you aren't an engineer because you actually write very well! I agree with you. I only saw the last half hour. That Axl thing was jaw-droppingly funny/bad. A voice that sounds like blackboard scratching has been seriously eroded over 10 years. Bizarre watching credible rock journalists after that performance praise what just happened.

Just like when The White Stripes were live on MTV months ago, the Hives kicked it. That crap is awesome. I mean, it's simply bizarre watching an awards show like that with the most outdated, lame hip hop hijinx and then there is this 2-minute sequence that, quite frankly, doesn't fit in, but really contains some goofy energy. Yeah, sure, their sound is not that original, but it's like a cool drink of water in an oasis of dog vomit. I'm not even sure how a band like the Hives or Vines even get noticed by whoever's head is up their *** at MTV these days, but I'm happy about it.
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i really didn't enjoy any of the performances myself. i did notice that eminem was lip syncing during white america, and then singing over his track on cleanin' out my closet. didn't he rip on the teen pop scene for doing the same thing? anyway i thought his performance was boring. i also didn't think host jimmy was funny. they did much better with the movie awards this year.
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G N R was horrible.
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I didn't see all of the performances, but I did enjoy Sheryl Crow.

I didn't recognize half of the artists nominated anyways. Guess I'm just too old at 25 for MTV.
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Originally posted by cdollaz
G N R was horrible.
Better watch out, GuessWho is giving oral about their perfomance saying

"tonight ****ing ruled.!"
"welcome back to HAVING FUN in rock n roll!!!!!!!!!!"
"it was the most ENTERTAINING part of the whole_damn show"

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That new song (I guess that is what it was) from GNR was terrible. It sounded like crap.
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I have no idea why I watched this crap last night. Three hours, and nothing to get excited about after Springsteen was finished.

First, even though they were last, GNR (or whatever the hell that was supposted to be) was awful. Axl needs to hang it up. His vocal performance on "Welcome to the Jungle" was absolutely terrible. Someone tried to justify his performance to me with the explanation "voices change in 10 years." Bulls**t. Not like that they don't. He's lost it. Completely. And if the public's been waiting 10 years to hear that garbage he played in between "Jungle" and "Paradise City," well then, I think Axl's gonna have a bigger nervous breakdown than Michael Jackson when his new album doesn't sell. It'd all be laughable if it wasn't so damned pathetic.

Speaking of Michael Jackson, is it just me or does his face look like he's one of the apes from Tim Burton's Planet of the Apes? Watching him speak makes me sad. When you see a still picture, he looks like a simple freak. When you watch him talk, you can almost discern that there is still a person under whatever-the-hell-it-is-he-did-to-his-face. Oh, and Grunter, I thought he was picking up a stage prop when he accepted his "award" too.

Pink=Pat Benatar 2002 (with worse songs).

The White Stripes were the highlight of the night for me. I've never seen two people look more uncomfortable on a stage than when they picked up their award for Breakthrough Video. In fact, they looked almost as out of place as Elliott Smith did when he was stuck on the Grammy's in between Celine Dion and (I think) Faith Hill.

The lowlight of the show. Unquestionably, without a doubt, Eminem. The whole "I'm the President" performance was terrible. His "feud" with Moby used to just be embarassing for him...picking on the most unthreatening, slight pop star ever. Ooh, Marshall, you're such a bad ass. But to actually threaten to kick his ass in the middle of the show? And the thing with Triumph? Eminem...you officially crowned yourself the lamest person in the room last night, and that's quite a feat.
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I caught a little bit of the VMA's last night. It may be that I'm
just older than the target demographic but the show was consistantly horrible.
The performances by P. Diddy, the Vines, the Hives, Sheryl Crow, and the
abortion of the new Guns 'N' Roses were crap across the board. Axl's band looks
like they should be playing for Marilyn Manson and he could barely catch his
breath. Pathetic. Pink accepted an award by stating how drunk she was.
Christina Aguillera presented looking and acting like a hoochie in a Nelly
video. To top it all off Jimmy Fallon was wearing so much makeup he looked like
Terrance Stamp in Prisilla Queen of the Desert.

A long time ago, I remember actually enjoying at least parts of this award show.

Everyone was just so callow and unprofessional that, comparatively, my friend's band that just played a local club, puts on a much more accomplised show than anything on the VMAs last night - and they're not terribly good.

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The new GNR band kicked ass. Axl's voice was pathetic but I heard he did pretty well in Rio and Vegas the last two years so I'll stay optimistic and chalk his vocals last night up to being nervous about being in the spotlight again. Yeah he's a whinny little ******* but at least he's never gotten punked out by a guy with a sock puppet on his arm.....
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Speaking of Michael Jackson, is it just me or does his face look like he's one of the apes from Tim Burton's Planet of the Apes?
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Are *YOU* man enough to fight a bald, scrawny, vegatarian pacifist?

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...&e=16&ncid=707
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also i got to watch it with out sound since i was watching the live web cam feed. just to let you know, kurt loder (the mtv news man) really kissed axls ass by saying that he absolutly rocked and that he sounded great. and also i found out that g&r was performing on headline news about 5 min before the show and i announced it here about 1 hour before they went on

question since i could only see strobe lights, was the guy from the vines yelling or singing. at least the crowd laughed at jimmy fallons jokes since in 2000 mtv had to "enhance" the laughter from the wayans bros performance since it was dead silent. from what i saw on the rerun (i got in trouble for staying up past 1 btw), that film look was decent and not distracting, britney looked bad and someone who was stuck in the 70's (at least shes taking 6 months off) pink did the worst song of the year, but looked great doing it (she was even drunk during the acceptance speech.) but i only got 2 right, best new artist, and best video. another question, do the artists know that they are winning (since mary j looked proud and was crying during her speech) plus mtv f**ked up the pre show by cutting of avril in ther middle of her performance. thats my opinion on the night.
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Some of that stuff was hilarious, though. Like when the announcer said, "Ladies and gentlemen, singer and songwriter..." Who? Bob Dylan? Joni Mitchell? Van Morrison? No, Jennifer Love Hewitt! <smacks head> OF COURSE!

And someone associated with the show does have a sense of humor. When the award for Best Pop Video was being presented, the first words on the pre-recorded clip were, "Mmm... fresh cheese!"
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Lamest Performance: Eminem - everytime he was on-camera.

Axl Rose showed more class than Eminem.

And if Axl wanted to act like a jerk, at least he has talent to back it up. Yes, I said "has."

At least when GNR and Nirvana were "feuding," they were actually feuding about something, no matter how trite.

Eminem is just acting like a posturing, insecure twelve year-old. What a loser.

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Moby's take on the nite.

http://www.moby.com/cms/viewdiary.as...ewType=Current

THE VMA's
8/30/2002 - New York City

so, i, uh, guess that i have to write something about the eminem/vma debacle.
hmmm....well, what should i write?
the truth?
the truth is that i honestly, in all sincerity, thought that the whole eminem thing was done in some semblance of humor until eminem called me a P***Y (that was off camera) and then threatened to beat me up. ah well.
oh, by the way, i posted about a million photos of my vma night. go look at moby art and see my frivolous vma photos. they're frivolous.
more truth?
i think that eminem is talented and interesting but i'm kind of stunned at the anger that he has for me seeing as i'd never met him up until last night.

and i love 'triumph the insult comic dog'.
and i was more concerned for triumph's well-being.if eminem wants to pick on someone, fine, pick on me, but don't diss the dog-puppet. triumph the dog-puppet is my hero.
that's the sole reason that i went to the vma's.
cos i love that little dog-puppet.
and jimmy fallon's intro was utterly outstanding.
and the strokes after party performance was wonderful.
thanks,
moby
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I dont understand how anyone can diss the new GnR. They sounded great. They were more intense than the old GnR. Screw Slash! Overrated fat bastard. BUCKETHEAD, BABY!
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I don't get why emimem picks on the weakest pacifist vegan in the world.

But I did like when Nas came out with Ja Fool and Asshanti to show he was now with Murder Inc.

Fallon's intro was cool but the rest sucked.

The sets were pretty cool, i.e. boombox, the eminem set and the whole VMA set.

Other than that it felt flat.

Oh and btw the new GnR couldn't hold a candle to the old GnR. Axel's voice is shot to hell, it sounded horrid. Do me a favor if you think the new GnR is good listen to what they did on the VMA's and then as soon as welcome to the jungle ends play it in your cd player (preferably the live version). Trust me you will realize why Slash kicks ass and why Axel isn't Axel.

Usually these things suck. Only once every three years are the VMA's good.


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