Which is the number one overrated band/artist?
08-26-02, 03:06 PM
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Dave Matthews (voice like a bad Muppet)
Rush (see above)
Red Hot Chili Peppers (just plain bad)
Tool (one hit wonder... Sober)
Radiohead (one hit wonder... Creep)
Rush (see above)
Red Hot Chili Peppers (just plain bad)
Tool (one hit wonder... Sober)
Radiohead (one hit wonder... Creep)
08-26-02, 03:07 PM
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Originally posted by Gallant Pig
Tool is really overrated.
Tool is really overrated.
08-26-02, 03:12 PM
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Originally posted by GuessWho
Red Hot Chili Peppers (just plain bad)
Tool (one hit wonder... Sober)
Radiohead (one hit wonder... Creep)
Red Hot Chili Peppers (just plain bad)
Tool (one hit wonder... Sober)
Radiohead (one hit wonder... Creep)
#1 Red Hot Chili Peppers are good. Aside from being one of the best of the funk-rap hybrid bands of the 80's, they've evolved and grown into an eclectic, melodic, and terrific pop-rock band. Listen to Uplift Mofo Party Plan and By the Way
#2 Regarding Tool, read my last post.
#3 It's sad that you associate musical credibility with the number of "hits" a band has had. As for Radiohead, "Creep" is still probably their most played song on today's lousy radio stations, but to undermine them for that is pathetic. Listen to The Bends, OK Computer, and KID A to hear some of the best music of the past few years.
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08-26-02, 03:15 PM
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Originally posted by GuessWho
Tool (one hit wonder... Sober)
Radiohead (one hit wonder... Creep)
Tool (one hit wonder... Sober)
Radiohead (one hit wonder... Creep)
I didn't realize that I should have these two bands grouped with Flock of Seagulls.
08-26-02, 04:04 PM
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Originally posted by GuessWho
Tool (one hit wonder... Sober)
Tool (one hit wonder... Sober)
Lets see here, Sober was released I believe in 94 or 95. The year is now 2002, and I defy you to goto any Tool show and see any kind of empty seats, even at a stadium.
If your going by MTV to dictate Tools success....then you are WAAAAAYYYY off my friend.
08-26-02, 04:09 PM
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Originally posted by GuessWho
Yeah, and Sober is the only one I can remember hitting the Billboard Top 40 singles chart, if it even made it that high at all
Yeah, and Sober is the only one I can remember hitting the Billboard Top 40 singles chart, if it even made it that high at all
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Yep they sure are a one hit wonder
08-26-02, 04:59 PM
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Originally posted by gilbertr76
I didn't realize that I should have these two bands grouped with Flock of Seagulls.
I didn't realize that I should have these two bands grouped with Flock of Seagulls.
That being said, I fully concur with Radiohead and Tool being among the most over-rated bands out there. But the application of "one-hit" wonder status, whether true or not, is irrelevant. I find it hard to swallow that a band like Joy Division could be considered a "one-hit" wonder, over-rated band based on their only successful single, Love Will Tear Us Apart. Oi!
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08-26-02, 05:04 PM
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</small>As a result of witnessing this interchange I am left wondering the point of using the term in this context....
.... I once once used it with regard to Pink Floyd, another predominantly album-oriented band, but I was aware of the irony.
Originally posted by GuessWho
I never denied they've sold a lot of albums, but the term "one hit wonder" does, and has always, related to songs.
I never denied they've sold a lot of albums, but the term "one hit wonder" does, and has always, related to songs.
.... I once once used it with regard to Pink Floyd, another predominantly album-oriented band, but I was aware of the irony.
08-26-02, 05:55 PM
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Originally posted by raithen
2. Radiohead - the first two albums were wonderful. Everything since has been an excercise in whiny, pretentious shite.
2. Radiohead - the first two albums were wonderful. Everything since has been an excercise in whiny, pretentious shite.
At least Radiohead isn't like Oasis, "We are bigger than The Beatles." Riiiiiiight.
I think Radiohead hasn't had a "hit" off of either Kid A or Amnesiac because, let's face it, songs like that just don't suit well with MTV and (most) commercial radio. However, off of their third album, OK Computer, I do believe that "Paranoid Android" and "Karma Police" did get a fair amount of air play.
I've never said that Radiohead was the "second-coming" but I do enjoy their music more than...well anything!...on commercial radio right now. Sorry some of you are missing out because you get caught up in dogmatic fans and MTV.
08-26-02, 07:53 PM
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Originally posted by GuessWho
I never denied they've sold a lot of albums, but the term "one hit wonder" does, and has always, related to songs.
I never denied they've sold a lot of albums, but the term "one hit wonder" does, and has always, related to songs.
08-26-02, 10:02 PM
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Originally posted by Jepthah
If that's a real objective fact, I find it pretty sad and underwhelming.
Did they get sainted along the way? How about cure cancer?
I don't doubt that you mean what you say, but it just sounds (to me) like more of the "The Beatles are the greatest...no, really, they ARE!!!!" voluntary P.R. repetition I have heard throughout my life. It's like the old "appeal to authority" fallacy of argument. When I look at Rock 'N Roll artists, what matters to me is my appreciation for the musical legacy they have / have not left behind. My 10-cent theory: The Beatles' legacy has been inflated and pumped full of hot air by people who have sentimental attachments to their era, as well as people who have been indocrinated afterwards.
I own Sgt. Pepper and Abbey Road and like them a lot, and will probably pick up Revolver and Rubber Soul and "The White Album" one of these years, but I doubt very much that those records are going to supplant music I have heard already from both the Beatles' era and after it which is just as, if not more, relevant and important.
If that's a real objective fact, I find it pretty sad and underwhelming.
Did they get sainted along the way? How about cure cancer?
I don't doubt that you mean what you say, but it just sounds (to me) like more of the "The Beatles are the greatest...no, really, they ARE!!!!" voluntary P.R. repetition I have heard throughout my life. It's like the old "appeal to authority" fallacy of argument. When I look at Rock 'N Roll artists, what matters to me is my appreciation for the musical legacy they have / have not left behind. My 10-cent theory: The Beatles' legacy has been inflated and pumped full of hot air by people who have sentimental attachments to their era, as well as people who have been indocrinated afterwards.
I own Sgt. Pepper and Abbey Road and like them a lot, and will probably pick up Revolver and Rubber Soul and "The White Album" one of these years, but I doubt very much that those records are going to supplant music I have heard already from both the Beatles' era and after it which is just as, if not more, relevant and important.
" I think Sgt. Pepper's is probably the most distinctive event in pop music's brief history. It marked the point where the Beatles stopped being ritualistic dance music and became music to be listened to
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Musicologist, Oxford University
08-26-02, 10:31 PM
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I still don't understand how Rush could ever be considered overrated. They have had a lot of gold albums but they get almost zero airplay, and what does get played is usually off Moving Pictures. They are never getting into the hall of fame, and everwhere I go I find people who's reaction to Rush is "yuck"
If you don't like them fine, but they are by no means overated.
If you don't like them fine, but they are by no means overated.
08-27-02, 01:02 AM
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Originally posted by GuessWho
Yeah, and Sober is the only one I can remember hitting the Billboard Top 40 singles chart, if it even made it that high at all
Yeah, and Sober is the only one I can remember hitting the Billboard Top 40 singles chart, if it even made it that high at all
08-27-02, 11:14 AM
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Once again, I would like to take this opportunity to state my opinion that the most overrated band is....
The Beatles, of course...
Why... because no band is deserving of the level of ass-kissing they have received over the years
The Beatles, of course...
Why... because no band is deserving of the level of ass-kissing they have received over the years
08-27-02, 12:45 PM
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The Clash had a Top Ten album and single before Nirvana was even a dream. But really pointless as 'grunge' may have drawn on 'punk' for influence but Nirvana was not 'punk'. The Clash was punk.
The Clash had a Top Ten album and single before Nirvana was even a dream. But really pointless as 'grunge' may have drawn on 'punk' for influence but Nirvana was not 'punk'. The Clash was punk.
"Should I Stay or Should I Go?" owes more to the burgeoning rockabilly movement of that era than to the "piss-off" attitude of "Unca" Johnny and the Pistols. And as for "Rock the Casbah" -- file that under 80s novelty tune right next to "Whip It" and "She Blinded Me With Science."
Don't get me wrong. I absolutely love the Clash. Have all their albums (and the boxset). "Straight to Hell" is a perennial choice for my mix-discs ("see me got photo-photo-photograph of you and mama-mama-mama-san, of you and mama-mama-mama-san"). But they didn't "break punk" to the mainstream the way Nirvana did.
08-28-02, 04:38 PM
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The Beatles---I'm not a gigantic fan, but I think their tunes had an unbelievably fantastic and unique mix of pure hooks and a slight dark edge. Even their early bubble-gum pop had a vaguely deep "rock" undertone that other bands could never duplicate.
Nirvana--again, not a huge fan, but their music does stand out to me---particularly his song craftsmanship. Like the Beatles, I think he had an ear for melody and songwriting that set him above his peers.
U2--Well, I must admit I haven't cared for much of their stuff after 1985. But to describe Bono as a self-important egomaniac is about as far from the truth as you could get, IMO. I think there's very few rock stars who are as grounded as him, and who fully comprehend the utter ridiculousness of rock stars having such an elevated place in society--in fact, making fun of being a rock star has been his shtick for about 10 years now (hmm.... on an artistic level he might want to give that a rest
) I respect him a lot for using his position to try to help other people, and not just indulge himself. And, if you listen to him talk about the issues---he's done his homework and can talk in detail about the subject. You may disagree with him, but it's not like listening to your usual saphead rock star talk about their cause-of-the-week.
Nirvana--again, not a huge fan, but their music does stand out to me---particularly his song craftsmanship. Like the Beatles, I think he had an ear for melody and songwriting that set him above his peers.
U2--Well, I must admit I haven't cared for much of their stuff after 1985. But to describe Bono as a self-important egomaniac is about as far from the truth as you could get, IMO. I think there's very few rock stars who are as grounded as him, and who fully comprehend the utter ridiculousness of rock stars having such an elevated place in society--in fact, making fun of being a rock star has been his shtick for about 10 years now (hmm.... on an artistic level he might want to give that a rest
) I respect him a lot for using his position to try to help other people, and not just indulge himself. And, if you listen to him talk about the issues---he's done his homework and can talk in detail about the subject. You may disagree with him, but it's not like listening to your usual saphead rock star talk about their cause-of-the-week.
08-28-02, 05:21 PM
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IF tool was a one hit wonder, it would be with schisim not sober (never heard it before) and there are a healthy number of songs from radiohead on the radio.
