:thumbsup:
That's exactly what I was going to say. :D

Beastie Boys ('nuff said)
Chuck D (Chuck's a great rapper and his lyrics speaks volumes, not to mention Bomb Squad's production, God I love Public Enemy)
MC5 (alright, now I'm just trying to be funny)

brotha lynch hung
eminem
gift of gab
(saul williams)

are you the emanon with tapes at amoeba in berkeley, CA?

Saul Williams
Q-Tip
MC Frontalot

:up:

Nope - not I!

Talib Kweli
Masta Ace
Dre from Outkast

Tupac
Big Pun
Biggie

man you guys are crazy..... Like Water For Chocolate was the absolute best. By far his best work as of yet. and watch out for his new ish droppin is gonna blow minds

Q-Tip
Busta
Black Thought

Common a close 4th

Well, for what it's worth I find J-Live to be boring as hell also.

alright dudes, the best MC's are:
i gotta split this into 2 lists for real :) :

concious rap (aka non pop ****)
TaliB kweli
Pharohe Monche
Andre 3000

pop dudes (aint hating though, just saying)
Ludakris
Eminem
Nas

and most slept on:
Nature

and the 3 best producers :P :
Timbaland
Primo
Warren G - (even better than Dre IMHO, his albulms are tight! every single one of them)

Nas is pop? rotfl

He is getting pretty commercial, I dont know if I would say pop though.

My top 3?

I gotta say:
#1 - Will Smith
#2 - Juvenile
#3 - Puff Daddy





Haaa.....ok...really...
(these aren't in order, just top 3)
- Kweli's gotta be there...
- Rakim.
- Black Thought of the Roots


* I dont think anyone's said Mos Def and I guess that's understandable, but I feel that when he's on, he's really on [especially w/ Kweli]. (BTW, when the HELL is Blackstar Galactica coming out?)


Hon. mentions:
Eminem: he would have made my list (he's a master lyrically) but he doesnt have enough to talk about and none of what he says is really deep

Canibus: he would have also made it if his last album wasn't so bad. I loved him lyrically (always hated his production, but that's not what defines an mc to me), until 'C True Hollywood Stories', when he disappointed me lyrically. His verse on 'Beasts from the East' will always be one of my favourites though...

Royce the 5'9": Trained by eminem, he's really good, but again, not too deep (pretty good wordplay though)

50 Cent: Some nice wordplay, a bit shallow. For gangsta rap, though, he's one of the best IMO.

Biggie: Good mc, but the relevance thing again...

Common: I really have to be in a certain mood to listen to his stuff...

I thought you were serious about the Will Smith thingie, I was :lol:

nas is pretty popish dude

ever heard ochie wally wally, nastradamus, and a bunch of his other stupid crap???

but the intro to stillmatic made up for everything, that is so dope

blood of a slave, heart of a king


btw, anyone wanna hear some classic kweli
check out resperation, that song is dope
well everything he puts out is amazing though


mos def and common are aight, pharohe monche is dope too

Yeah that Oochie wally stuff (along with some of the songs towards the end of Stillmatic, and the couple of albums before this last one) is what takes nas off my list, even the hon. mention list. But damn the first 7 songs of stillmatic are really good.

Respiration is a sweet song, my favourite from that album is Thieves in the Night though, other good ones are Definition, Re:<br>Definition, and Twice Inna Lifetime has good verses from everyone...


EDIT: Just wanted to add that Talkin' to You (on Sounbombing 2) is a tight Blackstar track that not everyone knows about...

Pac
Eminem
Scarface

My favorite producer is Dr.Dre

Word... just discovered these OTHER forums...


Ok..


1. Kool Keith
2. El P
3. Nas

Honorable mention to Ill Bill