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i wasn't much into techno before i started listening to oakenfold and van dyke. give it a try, its great chill//smoke/roll/party/dance music.

For the most part, all I do hear is the repeating "boom boom". I've listened/heard more than 3 seconds, I was just using that as an example of how repetitive I've found it to be based on what a friend of mine has played (could be more, could be less). I'm not saying other music is repetative, I even said before that I feel techno takes it to the extreme (based on what my friend has played). Also with many other musical styles (from what I've heard) when repetition is used, there is more going on to distract you from that (such as vocals).

I'll definately go along with everybody saying it's great club music (possibly even excersise music), but can't see much use beyond that (based on what I've heard).

When I have the time (probably after Christmas is over), I'm going to see what I can acquire from some of the techno suggestions in this thread and give them a shot. I'll be sure to let you all know what I think of it after that. I'll also let you know if it similar or different than what my friend has caused me to generalize techno as.

Well, I'm glad to see that at least your giving it another shot. You are correct though, techno can be the most repetative music known to man. But on the other hand it can also be the least repetative. It all depends on what you listen to.

One of my favorite artist is Plastikman. Some of his tracks are very repetative in certain matters. But there is always something changing within it even though the bass line might sound the same.

Plus, there is a big difference between techno, house, trance, electro, jungle, hardcore... Like I for instance don't like trance, hardcore or jungle, but I love techno and house. There are alot of grey areas.

The thing that upsets me the most is the fact that 90% (if not more) of the techno that is mainstream is CRAP. I will be the first to admit that. You know like that Mortal Kombat junk you hear. And of course that is what everyone hears. So they assume that this is what all techno sounds like. Which is like listening to crappy guitarist and then assuming that all guitarist are the same.

Techno to me is good for any type of playing... driving, sleeping (ambient), partying, chillin, computer time. Like I think it is great computer music (graphics, programming...) because when I listen to like blues for instance I get distracted because I'm singing along with the music. But with techno I don't get that. But, this is my personal preference. Just thought that I would add my 2 cents.

What artists (djs) have you heard? I'm just curious as to what you have heard. Because if I listened to the same I might very well agree with you.

Check out: Richie Hawtin - Closer to the edit.
It is a very good cd in my opinion. And if you don't like it, fine. No harm done. Or, check out my site and download some of my free mp3s.

modiman

I think that would just annoy me. Satriani is good for that (or any other instrumental guitarist). I've also done classic rock for that purpose (this one works really well for me). As for sleep, silence is great.

I don't know about Satriani (he is very good, just to chaotic for computer music. In my opinion). Although, I like listening to Stevie Ray Vaughan as well. So, I guess Satriani would not be too far out of the picture.

My bad, I worded my sentence incorrectly. I ment ambient is good music to fall asleep to. Not, to play when I'm sleeping. Although, it does make for some interesting dream. But, then again so do shrooms. But, that is for another forum.

modiman

I have a hard time falling asleep to music. Silence works best. Unless I'm extremely tired, then it doesn't really matter what's going on.

Shrooms eh? I don't think there's a "Tripping Talk" forum yet.

no, i suppose not. although, it would make for an interesting forum.

modiman

Underworld's groundbreaking album "Dubnobasswithmyheadman" is a great place to start, it's an excellence marriage of electronic and classical rock styles.

(I wrote that myself!)

Personally as far as "techno" goes i like the sub-genre of trip-hop. Nothing like some Tricky to get me going - as well as Portishead, Massive Attack, and that Nearly God disc. It's all even yummier on vinyl.

I don't like techno - though I haven't heard enough of it to form that bias really. I liked the old electronica stuff - like what Bowie and Eno did in the 70's. But I wouldn't even know where to start with the new stuff. Like what is the difference between trance, jungle, house, techno, etc.? Everything I've heard just gives me a headache and makes me nauseous. It seems more like white noise than music; just something to be there instead of silence. I'm not trying to be critical of other people's opinions - and I don't think most of the other non-techno people here are either - I just don't get it. What would one call Bowie's "Low" or "Earthling" or Eno's "Music for Airports" - that ones obvious, Ambient - or Bjork's "Homogenic" or even NIN? All of those are electronic music but how does it break down into the other fields? If I knew that then I might be able to get into techno more - because I like those things - whatever the hell you can classify them as.

wow, this thread is back from the dead. Much has already been said, and I won't argue old points, but it has been said that the pleasure derived from listening to music is from counting without knowing that we are doing so.

Everyone LIKES repitition. Listen to avant-garde, random stuff like john cage,and you will be bored. There is nothing to catch on to. It is just sound.

What is the point of a blues twelve? It just is, just like a four beat of techno or a jungle breakbeat.

I would like to add, that most techno, like most classical, starts with a theme. The main theme is repeated many times, but from there, the music takes off. Different nuances are explored. With each count, a subtle nuance is added, leading to a penumbral zone of what is called optimal unpredictability. A zone which is a cross between chaos and order.

Quite possibly the most helpful site on the web when it comes to music, the All Music Guide is very helpful when it comes to trying to define music genres, and finding key artists. Here's the page for the Electronica Styles: Electronica

Like xmiyux, I find that I like Trip-Hop/Downtempo more than the rest of the genre. Usually there are vocals, and it's less blatantly repetitive. So you might find it more appealing than your basic club/trance/techno/jungle/drum'n'bass/industrial music...

I like trip-hop for this same reason. Also it normally lacks the sort of clangy machinery sound of some techno/industrial and isn't like the spastic superfast stuff of a lot of house music. It is normally a little smoother - almost a dreamy quality to it that you can kick back to and kind of zone out to.

Actually if you or anyone else would like to recommend some trip-hop to me i've been looking for a new band since I have everything Tricky, Portishead, Nearly God have ever done and a lot of the Massive Attack discography.

Well said.

I don't necessarily like hi energy techno, but what I do like is often considered part of the Techno Genre. I won't try to explain it because I probably can't do a better job than most of the attempts here. Most of all I enjoy seeing good live dj performances as they will take you through a journey as mentioned above for anywhere from 2-12 hours. I have jumped from genre to genre throughout my life, and never say something like "whats the point of this...".