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Toby Dramit 02-19-24 12:15 PM

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Arguably the most egregious depiction of underage smoking was shown in a film from the late 20th century.


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Count Dooku 02-19-24 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by fujishig (Post 14390162)
If underage drinking is the biggest thing you take out of something like Euphoria, I'm not sure what to tell you. ;)

I can't say I've noticed this as a trend, and I would hope that at the very least most of these movies portray the parents as terrible parents.

No, they are portrayed a good and caring parents. That's why it is weird to me because it seems to be sending the message that this is how normal parents treat their kids.

fujishig 02-19-24 02:21 PM

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Are the parents at least filthy rich (at least rich enough to buy off the DUI their kids are sure to get?)

Crocker Jarmen 02-19-24 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Count Dooku (Post 14390291)
No, they are portrayed a good and caring parents. That's why it is weird to me because it seems to be sending the message that this is how normal parents treat their kids.

I haven't seen the other two movies you listed as examples of this trend (You Kill Me, Cockblockers), but I'm pretty sure No Hard Feelings wasn't trying to send this message "this is how normal parents treat their kids" For God's sake, the premise is "rich helicopter parents hire their child a prostitute." .

Count Dooku 02-19-24 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Crocker Jarmen (Post 14390346)
I haven't seen the other two movies you listed as examples of this trend (You Kill Me, Cockblockers), but I'm pretty sure No Hard Feelings wasn't trying to send this message "this is how normal parents treat their kids" For God's sake, the premise is "rich helicopter parents hire their child a prostitute." .

I don't think anyone would describe the parents in NHF as anything but caring and concerned for their son's welfare. Their decision to hire him a prostitute so he can lose his virginity is (let's go with) weird, but they certainly do not want any harm to come to him. And the part of the movie that addresses my point is when they go to the "Princeton party" at in the invitation of the girl who has just graduated high school. Of course it is in a mansion, filled with underage "yutes" illegally drinking. So while Percy's parents are not aware of this party, it is revealed that the people who own the house are there, 100% condoning the drinking, and fully aware that it is a high school party. And it is impossible to imagine that none of these kids' parents are unaware of where their children are and what they are doing.

Certainly within the context of the movie, the party itself was presented as something completely normal to be happening, which conveys that same message to the audience.

Crocker Jarmen 02-19-24 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Count Dooku (Post 14390374)
Certainly within the context of the movie, the party itself was presented as something completely normal to be happening, which conveys that same message to the audience.

Yes, hundreds of college-bound kids partying in a millionaire's mansion is completely normal in the context of a cartoonish sex-comedy.

Count Dooku 02-19-24 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Crocker Jarmen (Post 14390391)
Yes, hundreds of college-bound kids partying in a millionaire's mansion is completely normal in the context of a cartoonish sex-comedy.

Yes, it is portrayed as something normal that happens in lives of these people. Just like a couple getting dressed up in a tuxedo and a gown to eat dinner at a fancy restaurant and riding in a limo is portrayed as something normal that these wealthy people do.

The events that occur within these situations are heightened for comic effect, but the circumstances are depicted as normal.

If the situation itself was weird, then the comedy of what happens would be undercut. It's her outsider behavior that is driving the comedy. And even she has no reaction to the fact that she is surrounded by a hundred underage drinkers, she's only reacting to the privilege.

The movie saying, "This is what people do. This is not an unusual thing. The only unusual thing is her presence there."

The audience is not supposed to be questioning AT ALL that all these high school age people are drinking. That's the point.

And you think this movie was cartoonish? Have you ever seen a movie directed by Frank Tashlin or Jerry Lewis or Mel Brooks? -rolleyes-

orangerunner 02-19-24 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Count Dooku (Post 14389986)
I hear Taylor Swift is re-popularizing teen drinking by chugging brews on camera at the big game

I'm sure the folks at Miller gave her a nice financial kick-back for that favour.

Josh-da-man 02-19-24 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by fujishig (Post 14390162)
If underage drinking is the biggest thing you take out of something like Euphoria, I'm not sure what to tell you. ;)

Euphoria isn't that all different from my junior high/high school experience in the 80s and 90s.

They just have better drugs and more gay stuff going on. No ditch weed and trucker speed for Rue and her crew.

Josh-da-man 02-19-24 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by fujishig (Post 14390295)
Are the parents at least filthy rich (at least rich enough to buy off the DUI their kids are sure to get?)

I'd wager so. Most of the teen drinking parties in movies seem to take place in spacious McMansions replete with jacuzzis and swimming pools and spacious yards.

Crocker Jarmen 02-20-24 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Count Dooku (Post 14390401)
And you think this movie was cartoonish? Have you ever seen a movie directed by Frank Tashlin or Jerry Lewis or Mel Brooks? -rolleyes-

Yes, to both questions.

Count Dooku 02-20-24 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Crocker Jarmen (Post 14390499)
Yes, to both questions.

Well, I'm not going to get into a debate about the meaning of cartoonish, but I think your understanding is incorrect.

fujishig 02-20-24 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Josh-da-man (Post 14390453)
I'd wager so. Most of the teen drinking parties in movies seem to take place in spacious McMansions replete with jacuzzis and swimming pools and spacious yards.

Yeah so I'd think that's probably a (maybe cartoonish, maybe accurate) depiction of how some of the wealthy feel they are above laws and consequences (mostly because they are) and pass that down to their kids.

I'm not sure that's an accurate depiction of the rest of us though, or even something that would start a dangerous parenting trend. Even if you don't care if your kid gets drunk you certainly care if they crash your car or spark a lawsuit.

Josh-da-man 02-20-24 06:20 PM

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Growing up, most of the high school drinking parties happened either out in the country at someone's farm or a public place like a lake, or at the home of someone in their twenties. (Think Wooderson for Dazed & Confused.) Usually smaller affairs that would max out at two dozen or so people.

When I was in high school, one of the guys in my "crew" had parents who wouldn't mind if we drank at their house, so we'd scrounge up some cases of beer or bottles of cheap whiskey and go to his house and drink all night. Not really what I'd consider a party since it was generally only five or six of us at most (depending on who had girlfriends). They guy in question was kind of crazy -- he liked to set fires -- and so were his parents. :lol:

Put it this way -- he didn't smoke but he always had a lighter on him. We'd be sitting in his living room drinking our bottles of Ancient Age, and he's in there with bottle of spray paint and a lighter making it into a flame thrower. The room was dark and there's be this loud WHOOSH sound and the whole room would light up. And his dad in the next room playing poker with a bunch of other guys and yelling "What the fuck are you doing in there?" But he'd never leave the table. :lol:

Considering some of the stupid shit we used to do when we were kids, I'm sort of surprised I'm not dead or in prison. :lol:

Toby Dramit 02-20-24 06:50 PM

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Yeah, I miss those days with the house parties, bush parties, hall parties, etc. Simpler, and much more enjoyable, times back then for sure. Great memories ... :thumbsup:

Count Dooku 12-24-24 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by fazatrading (Post 14527535)
I remember noticing the shift in how underage drinking is portrayed in movies, too. It used to be sneaky and rebellious, but now it sometimes feels almost normalized or casual, as if adults shrug it off. When I was in high school in the mid-2000s, parties with drinking were a thing, though it wasn't something most parents would openly acknowledge or approve of. Seeing that dynamic in more recent movies, where adults are often cool with it, feels odd.

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Thanks fazatrading, you are exactly the kind of cool new member we need. :toast:

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Nesbit 12-24-24 12:27 PM

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People should check out Snack, Shack. It's pretty much Underage Drinking in Movies: The Movie and it's great.

rw2516 12-24-24 02:26 PM

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"Give me a 3 Musketeers bar, a ballpoint pen, a pint of Old Harper, one of those combs, some flashlight batteries and some beef jerky."

dom56 12-24-24 02:39 PM

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:lol:

Josh-da-man 12-24-24 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by rw2516 (Post 14527625)
"Give me a 3 Musketeers bar, a ballpoint pen, a pint of Old Harper, one of those combs, some flashlight batteries and some beef jerky."

"Hi, um, let me have one of those porno magazines, large box of condoms, a bottle of Old Harper, couple of those panty shields. And some illegal fireworks. And one of those disposable enemas. Nah, make it two."

"I don't know what you have planned tonight, but count me out."

cultshock 02-18-25 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Count Dooku (Post 14527574)
Thanks fazatrading, you are exactly the kind of cool new member we need. :toast:

Are you sure about that? :lol:

Count Dooku 02-18-25 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by cultshock (Post 14555943)
Are you sure about that? :lol:

I stand by my support of someone who agrees with me.

Bluelitespecial 02-19-25 07:03 AM

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Project X was the last great teen party movie bit I also wonder how that kind of epic party could happen in real life.

Decker 02-20-25 12:19 AM

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Saw this warning before starting my new video game and thought of this thread. Never seen a warning (or optional trigger warnings) before
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