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dex14 01-31-23 11:13 AM
Swamp Thing (D: Mangold)
 
“Swamp Thing”

Easily the most extreme example of Gunn and Safran’s conviction to diversify the DCU, “Swamp Thing” will “investigate the dark origins of Swamp Thing,” Safran said, through the prism of horror.

By way of explaining further, Gunn referenced the initial reactions to the Guardians of the Galaxy joining the Marvel Cinematic Universe and initial questions about how Rocket Raccoon would work standing next to Thor. “That mashup quality” wound up being one of the highlights of “Avengers: Infinity War” and “Avengers: Endgame,” Gunn argued.

Gunn said they’re “one-upping” that approach with “Swamp Thing.”

“This is a much more horrific film, but we’ll still have Swamp Thing interact with the other characters,” he added.

DJariya 01-31-23 12:49 PM
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Did anyone here watch the long cancelled TV series that was on DC Universe and later aired on The CW. I heard it was good, but once it was canceled after one episode, it deflated my interest in it. Not sure there is a real interest in a theatrical movie.

Deftones 01-31-23 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by DJariya (Post 14228317)
Did anyone here watch the long cancelled TV series that was on DC Universe and later aired on The CW. I heard it was good, but once it was canceled after one episode, it deflated my interest in it. Not sure there is a real interest in a theatrical movie.
This is the kind of movie that can be made cheap, though. I bet this is basically a lower budget horror movie like the stuff Blum house churns out.

devilshalo 01-31-23 02:07 PM
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As long as it's not an answer to seeing Man-thing in Werewolf by Night... anything is better than the two former films with Adrienne Barbeau and Heather Locklear....

RocShemp 01-31-23 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by DJariya (Post 14228317)
Did anyone here watch the long cancelled TV series that was on DC Universe and later aired on The CW. I heard it was good, but once it was canceled after one episode, it deflated my interest in it. Not sure there is a real interest in a theatrical movie.
That show started good but ever so gradually turned boring and shitty. Real shame because it had a solid foundation.

Giantrobo 01-31-23 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by DJariya (Post 14228317)
Did anyone here watch the long cancelled TV series that was on DC Universe and later aired on The CW. I heard it was good, but once it was canceled after one episode, it deflated my interest in it. Not sure there is a real interest in a theatrical movie.
It was good. It was just getting started when it was cut down though. I do think folks would prefer that series be allowed to continue instead of a new film.

DJariya 02-01-23 05:22 AM
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A tease maybe?

dex14 02-01-23 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by DJariya (Post 14228647)
Mangold is in discussions with the Warner Bros. arm to take on the feature adaptation of Swamp Thing, the supernatural horror-based hero who is a focal point in the first chapter of DC Studios’ slate.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/mo...ie-1235315500/

cultshock 02-01-23 02:39 PM
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Damn, I always love seeing some old Berni Wrightson Swampy artwork.

DJariya 02-01-23 03:03 PM
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If Mangold does get hired, they would be a great start. I know he's busy with a Bob Dylan bio right now, so don't expect to see this anytime soon.

stvn1974 02-01-23 08:34 PM
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Swamp Thing sound interesting but I have zero intentions of ever watching any future Batman, Superman or Wonder Woman films and I am sure this would tie into them. Same reason I never got into comic books.

Why So Blu? 02-01-23 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by DJariya (Post 14228317)
Did anyone here watch the long cancelled TV series that was on DC Universe and later aired on The CW. I heard it was good, but once it was canceled after one episode, it deflated my interest in it. Not sure there is a real interest in a theatrical movie.

Indeed. And the canceled series was produced by James Wan. The only way I'd care about future Swamp Thing films/series is if Gunn and Co. brought in Alan Moore and gave him carte blanche on the script. I doubt that will ever happen, though.

RocShemp 02-01-23 08:42 PM
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Any chance the could rope in Guillermo Del Toro? I believe Swamp Thing is his favorite DC character.

stvn1974 02-01-23 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Why So Blu? (Post 14229104)
Indeed. And the canceled series was produced by James Wan. The only way I'd care about future Swamp Thing films/series is if Gunn and Co. brought in Alan Moore and gave him carte blanche on the script. I doubt that will ever happen, though.
de·lu·sion·al
/dəˈlo͞oZH(ə)nəl/
adjective
  1. characterized by or holding false beliefs or judgments about external reality that are held despite incontrovertible evidence to the contrary, typically as a symptom of a mental condition.
    "hospitalization for schizophrenia and delusional paranoia"
    • based on or having faulty judgment; mistaken.
      "their delusional belief in the project's merits never wavers"

RocShemp 02-01-23 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by stvn1974 (Post 14229113)
de·lu·sion·al
/dəˈlo͞oZH(ə)nəl/
adjective
  1. characterized by or holding false beliefs or judgments about external reality that are held despite incontrovertible evidence to the contrary, typically as a symptom of a mental condition.
    "hospitalization for schizophrenia and delusional paranoia"
    • based on or having faulty judgment; mistaken.
      "their delusional belief in the project's merits never wavers"
Is he really? I know Moore hates adaptations of his work because he feels a comic book should be a co.if book. However, he has written novels and screenplays. Has anyone ever approached him to write an original screenplay about a comic book character, that is not an adaptation of his previous work?

majorjoe23 02-01-23 11:31 PM
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Alan Moore would set himself on fire before working with DC again. You might as well expect Jesus to write the script.

RocShemp 02-02-23 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by majorjoe23 (Post 14229167)
Alan Moore would set himself on fire before working with DC again. You might as well expect Jesus to write the script.
I forgot all about his feud with DC. However, this part is perplexing:

The point of no return would come, though, thanks to a cascading series of misadventures seeing his work adapted to film. Moore was not creatively involved with 2001's From Hell, based (loosely) on his and Eddie Campbell's Jack the Ripper story, but remained generally ambivalent about the movie. 2003's League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, though, caused Moore problems beyond the Sean Connery vehicle's being an inexcusably poor representation of his book with Kevin O'Neil; a lawsuit against Warner Bros. compelled Moore to testify for ten hours that he didn't create the graphic novel as a way for the studio to plagiarize the litigating writers. From then, he asked his name be removed from film versions of his work, including V for Vendetta and Watchmen, and his film royalties instead allocated to the artists who co-created the comics.​​​​​​
Wasn't it 20th Century Fox that was sued over The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen?

majorjoe23 02-02-23 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by RocShemp (Post 14229171)
I forgot all about his feud with DC. However, this part is perplexing:



Wasn't it 20th Century Fox that was sued over The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen?
his big issue was Fox settled the suit, which he took as throwing him under the bus and admitting that the League of Extraordinary Gentleman comic was essentially created to cover for for the theft of the Cast of Characters script.

Why So Blu? 02-02-23 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by RocShemp (Post 14229153)
Is he really? I know Moore hates adaptations of his work because he feels a comic book should be a co.if book. However, he has written novels and screenplays. Has anyone ever approached him to write an original screenplay about a comic book character, that is not an adaptation of his previous work?

No, he's saying I'm delusional. :lol:

I know it will never happen, but had to spitball that.

Trevor 02-02-23 03:13 PM
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Alan Moore’s run was stellar, but Swamp Thing has had perhaps the greatest high quality story hit to miss ratio in comic book history. Plenty of good stories to crib from, if they go that route.

RocShemp 02-02-23 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Why So Blu? (Post 14229304)
No, he's saying I'm delusional. :lol:

I know it will never happen, but had to spitball that.
I know he meant you. I simply forgot about the feud and assumed the only obstacle would be Moore's distaste for adaptation.

Originally Posted by majorjoe23 (Post 14229210)
his big issue was Fox settled the suit, which he took as throwing him under the bus and admitting that the League of Extraordinary Gentleman comic was essentially created to cover for for the theft of the Cast of Characters script.
I remember that, but the article I linked to claims it was due to "a lawsuit against Warner Bros." when the suit was against Fox.

Originally Posted by Trevor (Post 14229440)
Alan Moore’s run was stellar, but Swamp Thing has had perhaps the greatest high quality story hit to miss ratio in comic book history. Plenty of good stories to crib from, if they go that route.
​​​​​​​The best parts of the last TV series were heavily borrowed from Moore.

majorjoe23 02-02-23 05:18 PM
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My guess is whoever wrote the article just made a mistake and typed Warner Bros. when they meant Fox.

Dr. DVD 02-02-23 08:00 PM
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I hope the approach they take is to do the origin like that of the comic, and then have the twist be what Moore implemented to reinvigorate that character for his run.

RocShemp 02-02-23 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr. DVD (Post 14229552)
I hope the approach they take is to do the origin like that of the comic, and then have the twist be what Moore implemented to reinvigorate that character for his run.
That was the approach of the DC Universe series. Elements like that (as well as the cast) are what kept me watching, despite it's gradual decline into essentially an R-rated CW show.



If the movie manages to take the best of the show and ditch what didn't work, they could have a solid hit on their hands. I hope if Man gold does indeed helm this, he gives it the kind of nuanced care he gave Logan.

PhantomStranger 02-05-23 03:25 PM
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The show had promise in the early going but I wouldn't call it a complete success. I actually think Swamp Thing is one of the tougher DC properties to adapt to the screen and I have no idea why Hollywood seems fascinated by it.

I suspect all of the development work done for Justice League Dark will creep into elements of Gunn's DC plans. It's much easier getting executives to greenlight something they've already worked on in some capacity.


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