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Old 09-05-22, 02:14 AM
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Troubled Film Production

Iíve always been fascinated with films that went through hell. Movies like Spookies, Terry Gilliamís Don Quixote, Evil Town, Fitzcarraldo, etc..
What are some others that I could seek out?
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The 1st one that came to mind, especially with one of the lead actors (Vic Morrow) and 2 kids getting killed on set.

The footage of the accident where they are all killed is on YouTube.
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Apocalypse Now.
The Crow.
Jaws (turned out good).
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Michael Cimino's HEAVEN'S GATE (1980)
Read "Final Cut" by Steven Bach, one of the former UA executives involved in it, for the blow-by-blow story.
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The 1st one that came to mind, especially with one of the lead actors (Vic Morrow) and 2 kids getting killed on set.

The footage of the accident where they are all killed is on YouTube.
Stephen Farber and Marc Green wrote an in-depth book about this incident, detailing everything that paved the way for the astounding misjudgment and flagrant violations of California law that led to the tragedy and the aftermath and subsequent trials and lawsuits. It's pretty harrowing. Why John Landis didn't go to jail and isn't still there...

For the record, the two children were Renee Chen, a six-year-old girl from Taiwan, and Micah Dinh Le, a seven-year-old boy from Vietnam. Neither had ever acted before. One parent of each of them was on the set that night and witnessed it. None of the parents had been told there would be explosions and helicopters in the same shot in which the children would appear. It would have been the easiest thing to get close shots of Morrow carrying the two children and then for the long shot, get a stuntman for Morrow and two dummies to represent the children he was carrying. But, no, Landis wanted them all visible in the same shot.
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Fitzcarraldo. Burden of Dreams is a great watch:

ĒThe film had a troubled production, chronicled in the documentary Burden of Dreams. Herzog had his crew attempt to manually haul the 320-ton steamship up a steep hill, leading to three injuries. The film's original star Jason Robardsbecame sick halfway through filming, so Herzog hired Kinski, with whom he had previously clashed violently during production of Aguirre, the Wrath of God, Nosferatu the Vampyre and Woyzeck. Their fourth partnership fared no better. When shooting was nearly complete, the chief of the Machiguenga tribe who were used extensively as extras, asked Herzog if they should kill Kinski for him. Herzog declined.Ē
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Fitzcarraldo. Burden of Dreams is a great watch:

ĒThe film had a troubled production, chronicled in the documentary Burden of Dreams. Herzog had his crew attempt to manually haul the 320-ton steamship up a steep hill, leading to three injuries. The film's original star Jason Robardsbecame sick halfway through filming, so Herzog hired Kinski, with whom he had previously clashed violently during production of Aguirre, the Wrath of God, Nosferatu the Vampyre and Woyzeck. Their fourth partnership fared no better. When shooting was nearly complete, the chief of the Machiguenga tribe who were used extensively as extras, asked Herzog if they should kill Kinski for him. Herzog declined.Ē
Directed by Les Blank, BURDEN OF DREAMS is easily one of the best documentaries about the making of a film I've ever seen. Mick Jagger is seen in some of the early footage also, along with Robards.
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I just watched Burden Of Dreams for the first time last night. I really enjoyed it. It made me appreciate Fitzcarraldo even more.
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Titanic, IIRC.
Rogue One
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Titanic, IIRC.
I know he had a tough shoot on The Abyss.
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Solo: A Star Wars story is another one. The directors get fired, they bring in Ron Howard who reshoots practically the entire movie and it finishes way over budget.
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The Island of Dr. Moreau (the 1996 Marlon Brando/Val Kimler one)
Back to the Future
Cleopatra (1963 version)
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Hearts of Darkness is a masterful documentation of the calamitous production of Apocalypse Now.
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https://www.rollingstone.com/tv-movi...erview-819105/

The Man Who Killed Don Quixote
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There is a recent Alec Baldwin movie that comes to mind... What is the name again??? Rust?? Someone died and all anyone can do is defend the person who killed someone.
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Re: Troubled Film Production

On a related note, I find myself fascinated by movies that never got made.

Boorman's Lord of the Rings, Star Trek: Planet of the Titans, Star Trek: The God Thing, and Jodorowsky's Dune.

Managed to find a .pdf of Boorman's Lord of the Rings the other day, but haven't read it yet. A cursory glance indicates that it's a poor quality scan and will probably induce a headache after about five pages.
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"Ravenous had a troubled history. Issues over budget and shooting schedules were still ongoing when filming was about to start in Slovakia. After the original director Milcho Manchevski walked off the set three weeks into production, he was replaced by Antonia Bird at the suggestion of actor Robert Carlyle. Michael Nyman and Damon Albarn composed the film's score, which generated a significant amount of interest for its quirky and inventive use of loops, instruments and musical structure."
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Just reading an older book right now called FIASCO: A HISTORY OF HOLLYWOODíS ICONIC FLOPS (from 2007) that covers a number of these kinds of films, although exclusively big-budget pictures where the troubles largely played out in the press. Iím sure most of the info on these films is all over the web or Wikipedia now, but itís a pretty fast read. Iíd seen all the movies years ago and generally knew the backstories from trade and entertainment magazines of the day, but itís always amusing to revisit these ícolossalí scandals in an era when everyone and their mother can make movies, and the sheer volume of Ďcontentí being produced today almost precludes these kinds of runaway productions from happening. Almost. These are the entries:

CLEOPATRA
THE CHASE (66)
PAINT YOUR WAGON
THE WILD PARTY (75)
POPEYE
THE COTTON CLUB
SHANGHAI SURPRISE
ISHTAR
LAST ACTION HERO
CUTTHROAT ISLAND
SHOWGIRLS
WATERWORLD / POSTMAN
BATTLEFIELD EARTH
TOWN & COUNTRY

I recall a few other, troubled, high-profile bombs as well:

FALL OF THE ROMAN EMPIRE
DOCTOR DOLITTLE (67)
HUDSON HAWK
SOUND OF THUNDER
HEAVENíS GATE
PLUTO NASH
CHAOS WALKING
INCHON

Iím sure there are plenty of others.

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Bohemian Rhapsody
Two recent films immediately came to mind, "Bohemian Rhapsody" and this

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There is a recent Alec Baldwin movie that comes to mind... What is the name again??? Rust?? Someone died and all anyone can do is defend the person who killed someone.
There was also the Baldwin-directed THE DEVIL AND DANIEL WEBSTER, which got retitled SHORTCUT TO HAPPINESS and was plagued with all kinds of issues, including the film's investors being prosecuted for bank fraud (and the movie being seized by the Feds). When it eventually did get released, it was so bad, Baldwin took his name off the movie as its director.
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The Godfather, at least as shown in The Offer.
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There is a recent Alec Baldwin movie that comes to mind... What is the name again??? Rust?? Someone died and all anyone can do is defend the person who killed someone.
Which Allman brother was he playing?

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