Ghostbusters: Frozen Empire (2024, D: Kenan)
 

https://deadline.com/2022/04/ghostbu...ie-1235009684/

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Hope it’s in NY and the old gang comes back in supporting roles.

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I got the feel from the last one that Murray was doing Reitman a solid, but he's over the GB thing. Hudson, on the other hand, would show up for free ham sandwich.

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I think Afterlife made me realize I’m over the franchise. Truth be told I’ve never been a huge Ghostbusters fan to begin with. I like the movies, but I’m not a diehard fan.

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I realized after all the hubbub, I never got around to watching Afterlife. Is it on any streaming service?

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I loved Afterlife. And it set up a new movie, set in New York, really well.

Hudson and Aykroyd supervising a new generation of Ghostbusters makes a lot of sense. That's what I'd like to see.

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Currently only to rent/buy. Will be on Starz starting 5/16.

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I also enjoyed Afterlife, and would be down for another one.

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I liked Afterlife at first, but in all honesty best to just to leave it alone. The last movie only worked as a piece of nostalgia-bait. If you stripped the 1984 elements out of the movie, it'd be a Goonies/Stranger Things room-temperature leftover.

Ghostbusters is best left in the past. 38 years in the past.

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Make that turkey and I'm in! :lol:

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I think Murray will be out, but Aykroyd (who actually has approval on each of these movies - and I think he's the only one Sony needs to get the OK from, as Murray long ago gave up his rights, and Ramis has passed) should be back (at least for a cameo) and AFTERLIFE seemed to imply that Hudson's Winston would be setting up shop/training newbies (McKenna Grace's character and others) in NYC.

I know Aykroyd said at the time AFTERLIFE came out that he thought the old gang (him, Ernie and Bill) had one more adventure left in them - but I don't know if Murray would say "yes" to that or if Sony wants Murray right now considering the questionable press he's gotten in the last month.

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Maybe they could bring those women in from Boston and Winston slapping a cease and desist on them for using the ™. Multiverse or bust!

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That sounds good, let's make that one.

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That’s where I’m at with this franchise as well. I enjoyed Afterlife quite a bit, got “the feels” at the end - may have gotten a little misty eyed and liked the new cast quite a bit but overall I realize that the nostalgia factor played a BIG role in my enjoyment of the movie. And as much as I liked it, I’ve really had no desire to revisit it and don’t anticipate wanting to rewatch it any time soon.

I know they left it open for another one, and I’d be ok with Winston training a new generation of Ghostbusters, I’d also be perfectly fine with no more movies being made. Afterlife was a solid cap to the series.

Of course, it Columbia/Sony REALLY want this franchise to continue so I guess we’ll get more…

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I'd prefer they just take it to streaming as a series. The subject matter begs for more serialized storytelling. Build up a threat over a season of 6 or 7 episodes whilst building up the characters and comedy elements. Or even do the Cobra Kai thing and mine nostalgia while creating new characters and situations to care about. 10 episodes of 24 minutes each? I could be down with that.

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I feel similar, and I guess it's because I loved the animated series back in the 80s so much. The material is perfect for a monster of the week format, but also with a background story arch for the big bad. But definitely let the old characters go at this point. ATC could have easily been a better project if it was simply a different franchise of Ghostbusters, Inc or whatever.

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I would have enjoyed Afterlife much more if the OG Ghostbusters made more than a cameo at the end. They should have at least been featured in the whole third act, and given a more substantial role like we saw in No Way Home.

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Don't cross the streams

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Speaking of the multiverse, I wouldn't mind if they brought Kate McKinnon's Holtzman into the Afterlife sequel to replace Spengler. Of the ATC/2016 crew, she's the only one who really came off like someone who could have been part of the regular GB universe.

Just drop in a line about how she came into this world through a portal she accidentally opened up.

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She could just show up without explanation and I wouldn’t give a shit. Alternate universe doppelgänger or something I don’t care. I just absolutely agree that she was the shining star of that film.

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^ Her and Kevin. Must have Kevin.

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Since it's been mentioned, I would also prefer a series featuring the Ghostbusting they do on a regular basis.

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The old animated show was great for the idea of the regular, not end-of-the-world threats. Just obnoxious poltergeists and such.

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Like a ghost that goes around playfully pulling on women's ponytails.

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I loved the animated series. Remember The New Jersey Parallelogram?

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That's a pretty quick turn around.

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Sounds good to me.

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Filming some exteriors in NYC during the holidays 2022, release 2023. A Very Ghostbuster Christmas.

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That seems like a quick turnaround for an effects-heavy movie.

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I didn’t really care for Afterlife, but I’m curious about the next one possibly being in New York again.

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I wonder if they will make this one a comedy?

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Why wouldn't they? All Ghostbuster movies are comedies.

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If you didn’t follow his previous comments on Afterlife, he thought it was dark and not funny at all.

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A Very Ghostbusters Christmas might have been good.

If they made it twenty-five years ago with the OG cast.

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I can’t think of one funny moment in Afterlife. I sincerely hope they get back to what the original was like. Maybe a return to New York will help.

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There was comedy in Afterlife. I don't think any of it landed.

If they MUST do another movie -- and I really wish they wouldn't -- give it to someone who can handle both the comedy and horror adroitly -- more comedy than horror, but just enough chills to give the material real stakes.

TBH the original Ghostbusters was lightning in a bottle. They keep chasing that movie without understanding it was that perfect convergence of the acting talents of Murray, Aykroyd, and Ramis, Aykroyd's script and worldbuilding, and Reitman's directing. Even Ray Parker Jr's theme song.

(The same goes for Back To The Future. The sequels, whatever you thought of them (big me from me), could never recapture anything remotely like the original)

You know what, just bring back the 80s cartoon.

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I watched this last night and once again they were spot on. The first 2/3 of Afterlife was just ok but the last 20-30mins was a big mess. I don’t think I cracked a smile once through the entire movie. It’s a joyless, commercial outing which doesn’t have the magic of the first, I can’t see how another would be any better.

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It was there. It was just a different kind of comedy. The OG Ghostbusters was 80s-style comedy of the kind found in Animal House. The snarky snobs-vs-slobs kind of stuff that was commonplace in that era. The comedy in Afterlife was more of shoe-gazing, PC millennial stuff. Did it work? Sort of. Would the old-school unPC humor ("It's true. This man has no dick.") have worked three decades later? I don't know.

Yes, that it was. It took the early 80s special effects-laden adventure with an underdog protagonist in the mold of Raiders of the Lost Ark and combined with SNL/Animal House-style humor, and made something that was very much of its time.

And, going by Ghostbusters II (and even Afterlife), they really didn't know how to make it work as a franchise. Ghostbusters II reset them from being heroes at the end of the first movie to underdogs at the start of the second. The pink slime wasn't a bad idea, but they felt the need to rehash the Marshmallow Man with the Statue of LIberty. And with Afterlife, we learned that the Ghostbusters fell apart because, after the big events of the movies, there weren't any ghosts left to bust.

In order to be a successful franchise, they needed to keep it moving forward, not constantly hitting the reset button. Ghostbusters II and III and IV should have featured them busting ghosts regularly offscreen, then use the movies for some kind of big battle against a world-ending foe. But, by Hollywood logic, they needed to be presented as perpetual underdogs and losers because that was the successful formula in the first movie.