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OldBoy 10-27-21 08:09 PM

Is there still an MCU?
 
And phases? I know slew of new ones coming out that had previous, but Black Widow, Shang-Chi, etc. Is this another phase that will lead to something or are these just one offs or beginning of some franchise and no ties in any?

Where does Marvel go from here?

Count Dooku 10-27-21 08:16 PM

Re: Is there still an MCU?
 
Yeah, they just started Phase 4 this year. It's a bit all over the place now, but will kick in bigger with the release of new Spider-Man, Thor, Dr Strange and Black Panther movies.

E Unit 10-27-21 08:20 PM

Re: Is there still an MCU?
 
Nope.

/thread

windom 10-27-21 08:22 PM

Re: Is there still an MCU?
 
It's the M-She-U now.

dex14 10-27-21 08:22 PM

Re: Is there still an MCU?
 
What are you high?

Dan 10-27-21 08:27 PM

Re: Is there still an MCU?
 
I heard they accidentally left it on the counter and it went sour.

story 10-27-21 08:57 PM

Re: Is there still an MCU?
 
Here you go. Try not to let that padded post count hit you on the way out.

The Antipodean 10-28-21 01:53 AM

Re: Is there still an MCU?
 
If an MCU movie falls in the forest and Oldboy didn’t see it, does the MCU even exist?

Josh-da-man 10-28-21 03:05 AM

Re: Is there still an MCU?
 
It does sort of feel like it's fracturing with the introduction of the "multiverse."

Kind of like how DC's movie just said "Fuck it," after Whedon's Justice League bombed.

Toddarino 10-28-21 04:09 AM

Re: Is there still an MCU?
 
Unbelievable.

Goonies85 10-28-21 07:59 AM

Re: Is there still an MCU?
 
I don't know, but it looks like it's still there, just entering a transition phase. I know I for one can't wait for The Thunderbolts. I know it's a long ways off, but back when I did collect comics, it was probably my favorite, and I still have the entire first run, despite selling a lot of my other comics (I also held onto Kurt Busiek and George Perez's Avengers run, and a bunch of the Ultimate comics by Bendis and Millar, along with more indie stuff by Brubaker, Ellis, etc.). Especially loved it when Hawkeye joined the team. I can see the movie being really good, if done right. And I also can't wait to hear who they cast in the Fantastic Four movie. Then there's still the whole mutant thing...There's lots of different paths they can take...Don't really have any interest in The Eternals or the just-announced Nova, but those are just a drop in the bucket when they have so much intellectual property to pull from....

Thus, I'm not too worried...Feige seems to have a handle on this...

fujishig 10-28-21 08:17 AM

Re: Is there still an MCU?
 
I had no idea they were doing the Thunderbolts but really don't see how they can do it any time soon since they keep killing off their antagonists...

Can't wait for the all CGI Heroes Reborn and that comic accurate Liefeld Captain America, though.

Goonies85 10-28-21 08:39 AM

Re: Is there still an MCU?
 

Originally Posted by fujishig (Post 14004054)
I had no idea they were doing the Thunderbolts but really don't see how they can do it any time soon since they keep killing off their antagonists...

Can't wait for the all CGI Heroes Reborn and that comic accurate Liefeld Captain America, though.

Haha about Liefeld (I remember those Heroes Reborn comics, both his and Jim Lee's were some of the ones I sold off to cover expenses when I got laid off; NOTE: Barely got anything for them but at least I got to buy some groceries). And don't worry about the Thunderbolts, they're targeting it for 2023 (and probably late 2023, at that), so plenty of time to figure out how they're o approach it...I believe they're also targeting the Fantastic Four for 2023...So apparently they're still thinking long-range, which I suppose is good, as much as I'd like to see them sooner than that...

dex14 10-28-21 08:42 AM

Re: Is there still an MCU?
 
Neither Thunderbolts or Nova were announced. That originated from a clickbait website, Geeks World Wide, and was one of their "exclusives". Nothing is official.

rocket1312 10-28-21 10:10 AM

Re: Is there still an MCU?
 

Originally Posted by OldBoy (Post 14003881)
And phases? I know slew of new ones coming out that had previous, but Black Widow, Shang-Chi, etc. Is this another phase that will lead to something or are these just one offs or beginning of some franchise and no ties in any?

Where does Marvel go from here?

You answered your own question. A slew of new ones coming out that had previous. Not much more to say than that.

Mike86 10-28-21 10:15 AM

Re: Is there still an MCU?
 
It’s definitely still there. I do agree it feels a little all over the place at the moment. I also think Phase 4 has had kind of a ho hum start to it.

Hopefully things kick into gear more once some of the films with characters from previous Phases hit (Spider-Man: No Way Home, Black Panther: Wakanda Forever, Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness, etc.).

GoldenJCJ 10-28-21 10:35 AM

Re: Is there still an MCU?
 

Originally Posted by Mike86 (Post 14004102)
It’s definitely still there. I do agree it feels a little all over the place at the moment. I also think Phase 4 has had kind of a ho hum start to it.

Even though it’s not, Phase 4 kind of has a feeling of starting from scratch to get the MCU up and running. Avengers: Endgame had a feeling of a definitive end to the MCU. It seems like it’s taken them a little longer to get the series up and running again.

For viewers, Endgame felt like a final emotional release that had been built up over 22 (!) movies. Fans are spent and need a little bit of time to start building up their enthusiasm for the next phase. It’ll happen when the next Spider-Man, Thor, Black Panther, etc. are released.

It also doesn’t help the cohesion of the films when the MCU has been split up to Disney+ shows either. Personally, I’ve seen all the movies (most in theaters) but haven’t been terribly excited for the D+ series (I’ve only seen WandaVision so far).

Asking if there’s still an MCU is a silly question. I’m not sure how anyone who pays even the slightest attention can think there’s not.

ViewAskewbian 10-28-21 11:13 AM

Re: Is there still an MCU?
 
Yes, of course there is with the streaming shows adding possible more dots to connect.

I'd say they are rolling down multiple options on where things could go setting up:

Spoiler:


The Multiverse
-Loki
-Spider-Man No Way Home
-Doctor Strange 2

Dark or Evil Avengers
-Nick Fury = Valentina Allegra de Fontaine (set up in Falcon and Winter Soilder/Black Widow)
-Black Widow = Yelana (set up in Black Widow and continued in Hakweye?)
-Captain America = US Agent
-Scarlet Witch = Agatha Harkness
-Hulk = Abonination (seen in Shang-chi)
-Thor = Sylvie (from Loki)
-Alternate Vision is out there
-Venom?

Young Avengers:
-Yelana (could fit here as well)
-She-Hulk
-Kate Bishop
-Kamala Khan/Ms Marvel
-Riri Williams/Ironheart
-Eli Bradley/Patriot (though not named is in Falcon/Winter Soilder)
-Cassie Lang/Stature
-Billy Maximoff (Wiccan)
-Tommy Maximoff (Speed)
-America Chavez (Miss America) (Appearing in Doctor Strange 2)


And that is before we get to, sayyy, Fantastic Four and the X-men.

rexinnih 10-28-21 03:58 PM

Re: Is there still an MCU?
 

Originally Posted by ViewAskewbian (Post 14004138)
Yes, of course there is with the streaming shows adding possible more dots to connect.

I'd say they are rolling down multiple options on where things could go setting up:

Spoiler:


The Multiverse
-Loki
-Spider-Man No Way Home
-Doctor Strange 2

Dark or Evil Avengers
-Nick Fury = Valentina Allegra de Fontaine (set up in Falcon and Winter Soilder/Black Widow)
-Black Widow = Yelana (set up in Black Widow and continued in Hakweye?)
-Captain America = US Agent
-Scarlet Witch = Agatha Harkness
-Hulk = Abonination (seen in Shang-chi)
-Thor = Sylvie (from Loki)
-Alternate Vision is out there
-Venom?

Young Avengers:
-Yelana (could fit here as well)
-She-Hulk
-Kate Bishop
-Kamala Khan/Ms Marvel
-Riri Williams/Ironheart
-Eli Bradley/Patriot (though not named is in Falcon/Winter Soilder)
-Cassie Lang/Stature
-Billy Maximoff (Wiccan)
-Tommy Maximoff (Speed)
-America Chavez (Miss America) (Appearing in Doctor Strange 2)



And that is before we get to, sayyy, Fantastic Four and the X-men.

I pretty well stopped collecting comics in the early 90's (thankfully kept most of the keys $$$$) but half of that list is unknown to me. Look forward to a wider MCU rollout.

Decker 10-28-21 06:23 PM

Re: Is there still an MCU?
 
Seriously, why does this thread exist?

Kurt D 10-28-21 07:50 PM

Re: Is there still an MCU?
 

Originally Posted by Decker (Post 14004344)
Seriously, why does this thread exist?

it's my fault. In the VUDU thread I mentioned something about collecting all the MCU movies, and not knowing if I should get black widow. It was in reference to the first cycle finishing after endgame.


TGM 10-28-21 07:52 PM

Re: Is there still an MCU?
 
why did the MCU go out for cigarettes when I was 7 and never came back?

OldBoy 10-28-21 07:53 PM

Re: Is there still an MCU?
 
What is so wrong with this thread with all the hate? Why not a legit question? Is there one? Is it going to lead into another Avengers: Endgame scenario with these new characters? What’s so wrong with understanding or asking about that?

This whole pandemic and lack of great great Marvel movies of late could make anyone wonder the future of a franchise most loved to pieces starting with IM in 08 to Endgame in 19. Why such animosity?

rocket1312 10-28-21 08:07 PM

Re: Is there still an MCU?
 

Originally Posted by OldBoy (Post 14004402)
What is so wrong with this thread with all the hate? Why not a legit question? Is there one? Is it going to lead into another Avengers: Endgame scenario with these new characters? What’s so wrong with understanding or asking about that?

This whole pandemic and lack of great great Marvel movies of late could make anyone wonder the future of a franchise most loved to pieces starting with IM in 08 to Endgame in 19. Why such animosity?

​​​​​​What is even remotely legit about the question? In the last 6 months we've gotten, what, 3 tv series and 2 movies? With another 3 movies and who knows how many series still to come in the next couple of months? Holy crap, there's a new movie literally coming out next week! Of course there's an MCU.

Now if your question was "what direction are they going with the MCU", then maybe that'd be legit. But that wasn't your question.

kd5 10-28-21 08:34 PM

Re: Is there still an MCU?
 
Unless something truly compelling comes out, I'm kinda burned out on Marvel movies. I don't even know who Shang-Chi, Thunderbolts, Nova, Moon Knight, or She-Hulk are, had never even heard of The Eternals until all the buzz about the movie.

I guess I just need a break...


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