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dex14 03-15-21 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Decker (Post 13905841)
If both the roles of Judas and The Black Messiah are considered supporting performances, who is the lead? :hscratch:

Come on... you know the categories are stupid and how this game works. Neither of them were likely to get a main actor nom, so better to put them in the supporting. It is a dumb.

RichC2 03-15-21 09:24 AM

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Cool to see Love and Monsters get a nom for vfx, I thought the fx work was surprisingly solid for a mid-budget film.


Decker 03-15-21 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by dex14 (Post 13905843)
Come on... you know the categories are stupid and how this game works. Neither of them were likely to get a main actor nom, so better to put them in the supporting. It is a dumb.

I know how the game is played, but I think it's pretty obvious that Lakieth Stanfield was the lead of that movie. As much as they play fast and loose with the category classifications, I don't recall a time when both title characters competed in the supporting category, not that I can think of many titles like that (Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid, McCabe & Mrs Miller, The Falcon and the Snowman, Thelma and Louise, Victoria and Abdul, The Two Pope's, When Harry Met Sally, Frost/Nixon).

RichC2 03-15-21 09:40 AM

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Emma Stone and Rachel Weisz were nominated for supporting actress in The Favourite. Stone has the main story of the movie and the most screen time, Colman who was nominated for Best Actress (and won), has about the same amount of screen time as Weisz. It's not the same, at all, but it seems to be getting more common.

The FYC for Judas and the Black Messiah has Lakeith Stanfield listed for Best Actor, Daniel Kaluuya and Jesse Plemons for Supporting. This was probably the work of somebody's agent since there's no way Boseman won't be getting a posthumous award.

TomOpus 03-15-21 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Decker (Post 13905833)
Nomadland is on Hulu as well.

I don't use Hulu so couldn't list it but if I did have it, I would've watched it.

Why So Blu? 03-15-21 10:02 AM

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The White Tiger gets a nod for Best Adapted Screenplay. It's a damn good movie. It's on Netflix in 4K DV / Atmos, too.

Mondo Kane 03-15-21 10:11 AM

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Paul Raci :thumbsup:

clckworang 03-15-21 10:13 AM

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Some weird choices there. I loved Judas and the Black Messiah, but both of them for supporting? Boseman for lead? It just felt like those needed to get shuffled up.

Also, I know it's not a super popular opinion, but I wasn't a big fan of Boseman in Ma Rainey's Black Bottom. I thought it was too broad, way too theatrical for me. I would have been much happier if he were nominated for Da 5 Bloods. I thought that was a much better representation of his talents.

Daytripper 03-15-21 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by clckworang (Post 13905870)
Some weird choices there. I loved Judas and the Black Messiah ,but both of them for supporting? Boseman for lead? It just felt like those needed to get shuffled up.

Also, I know it's not a super popular opinion, but I wasn't a big fan of Boseman in Ma Rainey's Black Bottom. I thought it was too broad, way too theatrical for me. I would have been much happier if he were nominated for Da 5 Bloods. I thought that was a much better representation of his talents.

Agree 1000% regarding Boseman in "Ma Rainey's Black Bottom". The whole movie was way too theatrical for me.

dex14 03-15-21 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Mondo Kane (Post 13905868)
Paul Raci :thumbsup:

I hoped that would happen, but didn’t think it would. A nice surprise.

bluetoast 03-15-21 10:33 AM

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I’m predicting another shutout for Mank.

Quatermass 03-15-21 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Daytripper (Post 13905873)
Agree 1000% regarding Boseman in "Ma Rainey's Black Bottom". The whole movie was way too theatrical for me.

Same here. He was so much better in every other movie of his that I've seen. I think this is actually his worst performance, but I'm okay with this being a "lifetime achievement award." The Academy has done it before, like Scorsese for "Departed".
I liked The Trial of the Chicago 7, but I thought Cohen was noticeably too old to play Abbie Hoffman, kind of like Kevin Spacey in that Bobby Darin movie.

Decker 03-15-21 11:19 AM

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Least happy about these nominations : The 1969 Chicago Police Department.

GoldenJCJ 03-15-21 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by clckworang (Post 13905870)
Also, I know it's not a super popular opinion, but I wasn't a big fan of Boseman in Ma Rainey's Black Bottom. I thought it was too broad, way too theatrical for me. I would have been much happier if he were nominated for Da 5 Bloods. I thought that was a much better representation of his talents.

I haven’t seen Ma Rainey’s Black Bottom yet so I can’t comment on the performances and by all accounts Boseman was a pretty decent guy in real life so I’m not against posthumous awards but regardless of merit, I think we all know why he was nominated (and why he’ll probably win).

Crocker Jarmen 03-15-21 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenJCJ (Post 13905825)
A little disappointed that Regina King didn’t get a Directing nod for One Night in Miami and Delroy Lindo didn’t get an actor/supporting actor for Da 5 Bloods

Also,the Mank love is a little nauseating. I can see the Best Cinematography nomination but not much else.

Feel the same way. One Night In Miami is my favourite of all the nominee's I've seen. Happy that the nomination Da 5 Bloods got was for Terence Blanchard, I've admired his scores over the years.

I find it supremely satisfying that the one nomination Mank did not get was for screenplay. Glad The White Tiger was recognized there.

Damfino 03-15-21 12:17 PM

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Considering the year we've all been through, I'm surprised that two movies with depressing themes (The Father and Nomadland) were nominated for Best Picture.

I have seen Nomadland which is pretty good, but I don't think it's best picture worthy.

Coral 03-15-21 12:35 PM

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Wherever this list was copied from, they need to be consistent... keeps flipping back and forth from "Trail" to "Trial" for "The Trial of the Chicago Seven".

GoldenJCJ 03-15-21 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Crocker Jarmen (Post 13905915)
Feel the same way. One Night In Miami is my favourite of all the nominee's I've seen. Happy that the nomination Da 5 Bloods got was for Terence Blanchard, I've admired his scores over the years.

I find it supremely satisfying that the one nomination Mank did not get was for screenplay. Glad The White Tiger was recognized there.

I noticed the lack of screenplay nomination for Mank too. :lol:

I’m glad to see that Leslie Odom Jr. got a supporting actor nomination. He was fantastic in One Night in Miami. I’m guessing there are rules around Hamilton being nominated for Academy Awards. It would have been interesting to see him nominated for that as well.

Decker 03-15-21 01:29 PM

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Yeah Hamilton was expressly ineligible for the Oscars (because it was a filmed stage production) despite being nominated for the Golden Globes.

GoldenJCJ 03-15-21 01:32 PM

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^ Thanks. I figured it had something to do with being a filmed stage production.

The Antipodean 03-15-21 01:55 PM

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Ugh, Mank. One of Fincher's worst films and a disgraceful slam to Orson Welles, of course it gets nominated.

DJariya 03-15-21 02:04 PM

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I've seen 2 of the best picture nominations. Minari and Judas and the Black Messiah. I need to check out a few more that I have access to on streaming.

But, I have zero interest in Mank. I like Fincher, but that type of film doesn't interest me at all and it doesn't help that a lot of the comments here about it have been lukewarm.

The Antipodean 03-15-21 02:29 PM

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Of the best pic nods I've seen Mank, Chicago 7 and Sound of Metal, and Chicago is probably my fave of those. Really keen to see Minari and Nomadland and Judas though, Promising and The Father less my cup of tea.

Nick Danger 03-15-21 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Decker (Post 13905850)
I know how the game is played, but I think it's pretty obvious that Lakieth Stanfield was the lead of that movie. As much as they play fast and loose with the category classifications, I don't recall a time when both title characters competed in the supporting category, not that I can think of many titles like that (Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid, McCabe & Mrs Miller, The Falcon and the Snowman, Thelma and Louise, Victoria and Abdul, The Two Pope's, When Harry Met Sally, Frost/Nixon).

Don't forget Harry, Cherry, & Raquel. ;)

AaronHernandez 03-15-21 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenJCJ (Post 13905913)
I haven’t seen Ma Rainey’s Black Bottom yet so I can’t comment on the performances and by all accounts Boseman was a pretty decent guy in real life so I’m not against posthumous awards but regardless of merit, I think we all know why he was nominated (and why he’ll probably win).

I think if Boseman hadn't passed Riz Ahmed for Sound Of Metal would probably be winning best actor this year. But he probably would still be nominated as if you discount Stanfield who fraudulenty was put in supporting there weren't really enough high profile alternatives to get nominated instead.


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