Prey (2022, D: Trachtenberg) -- Predator prequel
08-06-22, 04:48 PM
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Oh yeah, this was pretty fun. Only complaint is the mid-credits scene, which I'm hoping is a more figurative expression of what comes next.
I'd love to see more time periods and civilizations explored. Feudal Japan, Ancient Rome or Greece, Zulu or Ashanti... All that would be awesome.
I'd love to see more time periods and civilizations explored. Feudal Japan, Ancient Rome or Greece, Zulu or Ashanti... All that would be awesome.
08-06-22, 06:04 PM
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Andolini's gun makes it all the way to Predator 2 somehow, so it would make sense that they'll be back for it and for further adventures.
08-06-22, 09:32 PM
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I wondered if that was the same gun! Hadn't had a chance to check yet, but yeah that's what I guessed. I enjoyed this, just a handful of minor issues but it was very enjoyable.(probably comes in 3rd just behind Predators for me) I wouldn't mind seeing a direct sequel to this or of course other time periods - one of these every few yrs sounds good to me!
08-06-22, 09:41 PM
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08-07-22, 01:08 AM
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Really enjoyed this one. The original has the unknown going for it along with the ridiculousness of the soldiers to make it fun. This was EASILY the best sequel. Such a great idea and they really ran with it. I liked how they made it clear that Naru has serious skills from the beginning.
Also I loved that I got to watch this at home on my big screen TV with a couple of snack breaks and no annoying members of the public looking at their phones and bringing babies to rated R movies.
Also I loved that I got to watch this at home on my big screen TV with a couple of snack breaks and no annoying members of the public looking at their phones and bringing babies to rated R movies.
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08-07-22, 01:48 AM
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The last two Predator films I watched were Predators and Predator 2. Prey was better than Predators, but I prefer the characters (even though they weren't terribly deep) in the 1990 film.
Some of the photography in this new movie definitely warrants the big screen treatment, like the tracking shot near the beginning and a few of the wide shots when the gorgeous backdrop is in full view.
In the minus column, some of the CGI is a bit dodgy, and the parts shot on a sound stage are really apparent. What was it with the modern dialogue? Was it deliberately anachronistic? Some of it sounded like it was written for a B-movie.
There's also crazy shifts in weather and sudden appearance of daylight in this movie.
The re-design of the Predator gives it a fresh look. Also appreciated that its weapons are retro.
The fights aren't bad, but I couldn't make out what happened in at least one part.
I was going to ask if anyone was able to turn it on. I went through the audio options and it wasn't listed.
As of right now, my ranking for the series would be
Predator
Predator 2
Prey
The Predator
Predators
Some of the photography in this new movie definitely warrants the big screen treatment, like the tracking shot near the beginning and a few of the wide shots when the gorgeous backdrop is in full view.
In the minus column, some of the CGI is a bit dodgy, and the parts shot on a sound stage are really apparent. What was it with the modern dialogue? Was it deliberately anachronistic? Some of it sounded like it was written for a B-movie.
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There's also crazy shifts in weather and sudden appearance of daylight in this movie.
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The re-design of the Predator gives it a fresh look. Also appreciated that its weapons are retro.
The fights aren't bad, but I couldn't make out what happened in at least one part.
Spoiler:
I was going to ask if anyone was able to turn it on. I went through the audio options and it wasn't listed.
As of right now, my ranking for the series would be
Predator
Predator 2
Prey
The Predator
Predators
Re: modern language ... I know this wasn't translated, but when translating from one language to another, translators have to account for vernacular or slang. They don't necessarily translate word = word, they translate to communicate. Maybe I have this in mind because I just listened to the HBO podcast for Chernobyl and they were talking about raspberries. These are things that Russians see in movies that are essentially stereotypes about Russia (like the furry hats), but the word they use for this translates to English as raspberries. I view anachronistic language the same way -- it isn't a word for word equivalent, but it better conveys the sentiment.
I'll admit I was rather confused by the retro weapons. At first I thought "Oh, no tech?" I like that some of it was stepped back tech, but some of it (the bone mask) didn't make sense at first. Then I figured it had used the skull of a previous kill to design it's "armor."
I think the only thing that really bothered me was the Predator's behavior. During the Battle Royale with the French, it acted more like a gleeful monster/serial killer than the honorable hunter it is supposed to be.
I'm watching the Commanche dub now ... Maybe my view is skewed since I just watched the movie, but I would say you could watch the dub with no subtitles and pretty much still follow the movie. Like Mad Max: Fury Road with no dialogue track, the visuals and acting tell the story without knowing what s being said.
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08-07-22, 01:55 AM
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Re: Prey (2022, D: Trachtenberg) -- Predator prequel
this was not bad. not bad at all. i loved the one on one fighting with the Predator. that's something we didn't see in the original which this hearkens back too. my only gripe is how Native Americans could speak fluid English in 1719. would have liked a native tongue and subtitles, but only minor nitpick. this was just a sequel done right.
08-07-22, 02:07 AM
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This whole "should be in the theaters" thing is getting tiresome to hear, same with the Batgirl fiasco.
Streaming is the new way. Think of how many films became big only after releasing on VHS and later DVD.
I've only been going to the theater in recent years for new Star Wars movies, but now the good stuff is on DIsney+ and I'm quite okay with that.
Streaming is the new way. Think of how many films became big only after releasing on VHS and later DVD.
I've only been going to the theater in recent years for new Star Wars movies, but now the good stuff is on DIsney+ and I'm quite okay with that.
08-07-22, 02:12 AM
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Re: Prey (2022, D: Trachtenberg) -- Predator prequel
Adolini's gun had a whole different path to the Predator in Predator 2 that PREY may have retconned.
the story was told in the comics so not sure if it is canon.
the story was told in the comics so not sure if it is canon.
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08-07-22, 02:17 AM
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Just watched this and thoroughly enjoyed it. Definitely has a vibe that is more similar to the original movie than any of the prequels.
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08-07-22, 06:53 AM
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This scene stood out to me as well. It's clearly supposed to be "cool" and we're not supposed to think about it beyond that. That said, I'm not sure honorable hunter is always an apt description for the predators. There is usually a level of arrogance and machismo to their behavior that I don't think precludes showing off a little.
08-07-22, 11:13 AM
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I took as;
I loved how Naru notice that after eating that plant that brought down ur body temperature. The predator couldn't see her. She was so badass.
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I loved how Naru notice that after eating that plant that brought down ur body temperature. The predator couldn't see her. She was so badass.
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08-07-22, 12:26 PM
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I think that is my self-justification, Rocket. Since other movies have shown us there are various factions of Predators (Yautja), not all of them will hold the same values. For example, it seems this Predator was loaded up with tons of the weapons we have seen, while it feels like Predators past picked a few weapons.
So with that in mind, do you think the "end we didn't see" was the war Naru predicted, or do you think she was "honored" the way Carrigan was? I'm thinking the ship came back and the "council" confronted Naru and her tribe like the did in Predator 2. I think they gave her something and she gave the Predators the pistol (still fits within the comic book story posted above).
Csant, I thought that the plant was a great setup. I suspected it when she gave it to the first wounded warrior and he said "I'm cold." I think Trachtenberg did a good job setting up pieces without beating us over the head (the flowers, the mud, and the guided darts).
I guess I still don't understand how the darts worked out though. I'm willing to assume the darts just go straight without the tracking system, but then how did she activate the tracking system?
So with that in mind, do you think the "end we didn't see" was the war Naru predicted, or do you think she was "honored" the way Carrigan was? I'm thinking the ship came back and the "council" confronted Naru and her tribe like the did in Predator 2. I think they gave her something and she gave the Predators the pistol (still fits within the comic book story posted above).
Csant, I thought that the plant was a great setup. I suspected it when she gave it to the first wounded warrior and he said "I'm cold." I think Trachtenberg did a good job setting up pieces without beating us over the head (the flowers, the mud, and the guided darts).
I guess I still don't understand how the darts worked out though. I'm willing to assume the darts just go straight without the tracking system, but then how did she activate the tracking system?
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08-07-22, 01:09 PM
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I thought this movie was horribly overrated. Not tense. Not fun. Just bland and boring. And I disliked the main character.
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08-07-22, 02:45 PM
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08-07-22, 04:39 PM
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08-07-22, 06:29 PM
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Wait … you are serious? You’re going to complain about plot armor and then say you think a Tom Cruise movie is great?!
OK, OK, hang on ….
No, no …
I think I just peed myself.
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08-07-22, 06:41 PM
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Oh and this is really just a nitpick but... What is up with the redesign of the Predator? It looked like its face was a crab that got stuck in a giant wad of chewed up bubblegum (not that any previous one would win any beauty contests).
08-07-22, 09:58 PM
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RocShemp i also commented on the face design as it looks a lot like the Super Predator from PREDATORS and im not a huge fan of that variation on the Yautja face design.
However, i am reminded watching various videos on youtube, both fan theory and lore based on novels, comics, films, etc that say that there are Yautja from different tribes that may vary in appereance. In fact, i have seen people say the Yautja in PREY may be from a different region of the Predator planet called Yautja Prime.
However, i am reminded watching various videos on youtube, both fan theory and lore based on novels, comics, films, etc that say that there are Yautja from different tribes that may vary in appereance. In fact, i have seen people say the Yautja in PREY may be from a different region of the Predator planet called Yautja Prime.
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08-07-22, 10:03 PM
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Started off a little slow, but finished strong. Enjoyed it. Probably B+ grade.
Best things about this movie was the location and Predator weapon technology. Very cool new weapons. Cool fight sequences that didn't really involve advanced guns.
I'm down for a sequel, if the credits hinted at it.
and I didn't watch any trailers, so I went in fresh. Didn't overhype myself.
Best things about this movie was the location and Predator weapon technology. Very cool new weapons. Cool fight sequences that didn't really involve advanced guns.
I'm down for a sequel, if the credits hinted at it.
and I didn't watch any trailers, so I went in fresh. Didn't overhype myself.
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08-07-22, 10:05 PM
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RocShemp i also commented on the face design as it looks a lot like the Super Predator from PREDATORS and im not a huge fan of that variation on the Yautja face design.
However, i am reminded watching various videos on youtube, both fan theory and lore based on novels, comics, films, etc that say that there are Yautja from different tribes that may vary in appereance. In fact, i have seen people say the Yautja in PREY may be from a different region of the Predator planet called Yautja Prime.
However, i am reminded watching various videos on youtube, both fan theory and lore based on novels, comics, films, etc that say that there are Yautja from different tribes that may vary in appereance. In fact, i have seen people say the Yautja in PREY may be from a different region of the Predator planet called Yautja Prime.
Works for me.
I just want a prequel with " The Wolf".
08-07-22, 10:48 PM
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Saw this over on YautjaDVDChat on the Intergalactic Wide Web …
Over here! Can’t stand these movies! Why do they always make the prey look so different! *click*click*click*click*click*
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Over here! Can’t stand these movies! Why do they always make the prey look so different! *click*click*click*click*click*
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08-07-22, 11:05 PM
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As usual when a New Predator film shows up...Im still shaking my head that we still haven't seen a Female Yautja on screen. We have them in the novels, comics, games....but not films.
I mean shit..PREY woulda a been a perfect film for a Female Yautja since our human hero is a woman...