Michael Keaton in talks to return as Bruce Wayne/Batman in Flashpoint and maybe more
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He made the character unique in film and sold the idea that this guy was mental and needed to fight crime dressed as a bat to deal with it. I didn’t get that from any of the other actors.
When he’s trying to tell Vicki the truth, or when he’s taking about a bad kid kid he knew, Jack, who couldn’t see the train till it was two feet in front of him, those were some great moments.
Even just body language and facial expressions sold the idea of Bruce Wayne’a grief, like when he was delivering the two roses.
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I mean sure if like Tim Burton admitted you've never read a Batman comic then I'm sure he's a great fit but he's nothing like the comic book character.
#28
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But same with Bale in a lot of ways. “I won’t kill you, I just won’t save you.” Then ditching Gotham to retire with Catwoman in Paris? Burton and Keaton were channeling Frank Miller’s Batman in their own way.
Clooney and Kilmer were closer to the comic version and yet they the end result wasn’t very good.
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#32
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As far as his Bruce Wayne I would say he wasn’t bad, but not really overly memorable either. His Batman was better. I think a lot of the problem with Affleck’s turn as the character is he just didn’t have enough time. He was basically thrust into the role in a major storyline right off the bat (no pun intended). I would have liked to have seen him get a true solo film.
#33
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As far as his Bruce Wayne I would say he wasn’t bad, but not really overly memorable either. His Batman was better. I think a lot of the problem with Affleck’s turn as the character is he just didn’t have enough time. He was basically thrust into the role in a major storyline right off the bat (no pun intended). I would have liked to have seen him get a true solo film.
Costume-wise he was too chunky and looked like the equivalent of Superman. It gave the impression that they were physical equals. The slimmer Bale Batman would have made the threat of Superman feel greater.
#34
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Re: Michael Keaton in talks to return as Bruce Wayne/Batman in Flashpoint and maybe more
What frustrates me I guess is there still hasn’t been a truly comic accurate Batman (and his rogues gallery) put on screen after all these years. That being said, Keaton and Affleck were easily my favorites. I went from not giving a shit about this Flash movie, to being there day one.
I hope before I die we get a proper Joker, but that’s a whole other issue.
I hope before I die we get a proper Joker, but that’s a whole other issue.
#35
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What frustrates me I guess is there still hasn’t been a truly comic accurate Batman (and his rogues gallery) put on screen after all these years. That being said, Keaton and Affleck were easily my favorites. I went from not giving a shit about this Flash movie, to being there day one.
I hope before I die we get a proper Joker, but that’s a whole other issue.
I hope before I die we get a proper Joker, but that’s a whole other issue.
The Joker though, I think Ledger's performance, and the look they gave him, was equal to, if not better, than the comics. It's clearly an adaptation and not identical to the comics. What would a proper Joker portrayal be for you, or what actor do you think would be ideal for the role?
For me, The Killing Joke or the Batman RIP.
I think to do a proper live-action Batman and rogues gallery, television is the way to go.
#36
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Yeah, a Batman tv series with a big enough budget would be far better than any films probably ever will be in my opinion. There’s so much to explore with the character as well as his rogues and the Bat Family that the films will more than likely never scratch the surface of.
#37
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Yeah, a Batman tv series with a big enough budget would be far better than any films probably ever will be in my opinion. There’s so much to explore with the character as well as his rogues and the Bat Family that the films will more than likely never scratch the surface of.
These days it feels like it would be the perfect time to bring in a Carrie Kelly or Stephanie Brown character.
#38
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For Bruce Wayne, I feel that way. I don't think any of the actors we got felt truly like Bruce Wayne from the comics. Henry Cavill as Superman? We couldn't have got better casting. Despite being a big Keaton fan, he doesn't fit the role physically.
The Joker though, I think Ledger's performance, and the look they gave him, was equal to, if not better, than the comics. It's clearly an adaptation and not identical to the comics. What would a proper Joker portrayal be for you, or what actor do you think would be ideal for the role?
For me, The Killing Joke or the Batman RIP.
I think to do a proper live-action Batman and rogues gallery, television is the way to go.
The Joker though, I think Ledger's performance, and the look they gave him, was equal to, if not better, than the comics. It's clearly an adaptation and not identical to the comics. What would a proper Joker portrayal be for you, or what actor do you think would be ideal for the role?
For me, The Killing Joke or the Batman RIP.
I think to do a proper live-action Batman and rogues gallery, television is the way to go.
I’ve thought about actors for a long time and I honestly can’t think of one. I’ve “liked” parts of all the previous filmed incarnations minus Leto. That was beyond atrocious.
Reintroducing Keaton really opens up a lot of exciting possibilities. I wasn’t a huge fan of Flashpoint, but DC has mangled this universe so this could be a really cool way to pretend they knew what they were doing all along.
#39
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I hope they completely ignore Ben Affleck's Batman and continue on as if he never existed and bring in Keaton fresh as if he was the only Bruce Wayne/Batman that ever existed. Straight up horror franchise style.
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God forbid a filmmaker take source material and make it his own. If you want the comic book Batman, maybe you should pick one up, there's only thousands of them.
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#41
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Re: Michael Keaton in talks to return as Bruce Wayne/Batman in Flashpoint and maybe more
What frustrates me I guess is there still hasn’t been a truly comic accurate Batman (and his rogues gallery) put on screen after all these years. That being said, Keaton and Affleck were easily my favorites. I went from not giving a shit about this Flash movie, to being there day one.
I hope before I die we get a proper Joker, but that’s a whole other issue.
I hope before I die we get a proper Joker, but that’s a whole other issue.
#42
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As far as staying true to comic books: if I'm being honest, even comic books don't stay true to comic books, mainly because it's a work for hire situation with comic book writers and despite trying to strictly adhere to continuity, every (good) writer puts their own spin on things. This may seem hypocritical of me because I (still) hate the depiction of Superman in Man of Steel, but we do latch on to certain versions of characters as our iconic version of them in our own minds, but DC can hire some hack writer tomorrow to write Batman as a serial killer and that will become canonical comic book batman. Heck, they hired Kevin Smith who made it canon that Batman peed his pants in Year One:
https://comicsalliance.com/worst-of-...dening-gyre-6/
#44
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Depends on what you mean when you say "comic accurate". As a character with an 80-year history and dozens of writers, there isn't one, definitive comic depiction and it depends a lot on which stories you liked the most. Bale fits the character as depicted in a lot of the earlier Legends of the Dark Knight issues, Keaton works as sort of a combination of the earliest Golden Age and 1970s Denny O'Neil stuff. Affleck reflects more of the modern idea, especially Tower of Babel/Infinite Crisis paranoia and obviously Dark Knight Returns (but I'd say less of that, despite claiming it as an influence).
But they all take an aspect of the character to play up and then ground in some sort of reality, as you'd expect for a live-action adaptation.
But they all take an aspect of the character to play up and then ground in some sort of reality, as you'd expect for a live-action adaptation.
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Re: Michael Keaton in talks to return as Bruce Wayne/Batman in Flashpoint and maybe more
Depends on what you mean when you say "comic accurate". As a character with an 80-year history and dozens of writers, there isn't one, definitive comic depiction and it depends a lot on which stories you liked the most. Bale fits the character as depicted in a lot of the earlier Legends of the Dark Knight issues, Keaton works as sort of a combination of the earliest Golden Age and 1970s Denny O'Neil stuff. Affleck reflects more of the modern idea, especially Tower of Babel/Infinite Crisis paranoia and obviously Dark Knight Returns (but I'd say less of that, despite claiming it as an influence).
But they all take an aspect of the character to play up and then ground in some sort of reality, as you'd expect for a live-action adaptation.
But they all take an aspect of the character to play up and then ground in some sort of reality, as you'd expect for a live-action adaptation.




