Re: Army of the Dead (5/21/2021, D: Zack Snyder) - Netflix
 

We're not talking about technical issues , we're talking about someone to fix plot holes. Sometimes it seems like Hollywood doesn't care about them.

Re: Army of the Dead (5/21/2021, D: Zack Snyder) - Netflix
 

And that's basically the whole point of that video series.

Re: Army of the Dead (5/21/2021, D: Zack Snyder) - Netflix
 

I'm sure the prequel film called Army of Thieves and the animated series called Lost Vegas will not shed any light on this FRANCHISE whatsoever. :sarcasm:
But hey, plot holes.

Re: Army of the Dead (5/21/2021, D: Zack Snyder) - Netflix
 

People better not be talking ill of pitch meeting guy! I'll fight any one of ya!

The saw never being used again by Hardwick, and apparently the slowest helicopter in existence - both stuck out like crazy.

Overall, I enjoyed the film - it was dumb fun, and really looked great.

Re: Army of the Dead (5/21/2021, D: Zack Snyder) - Netflix
 

I mean... If writing down literally every criticism from users on reddit's r/movies then working them into a 'skit' is your jam, I'm not going to stop you from enjoying that :)


This, I genuinely do not understand. This film was downright ugly, and it goes beyond a stylistic choice and deep into incompetence in the cinematographic process. A good 90% of the film has such a shallow depth of field that it's clear they struggled with keeping things in focus for more than a few seconds. There are shots that are inexplicably completely out of focus, but far more that just look ridiculous, like someone decided to use one type of lens the entire time, visual coherence be damned. In a way, it reminded me of that terrible Les Mis version a few years back, where nearly every shot was a close-up of someone's face. That film was exhaustingly bad because of it, like watching talking heads on the news for two hours, but the talking heads were singing.

But hey, if folks like it, more power to y'all. :) I think Snyder should have fired his DP after the first day. ;)


(And I'm no Snyder hater. I'm mostly indifferent; thought DOTD was great. the owl movie, Watchmen, and Sucker Punch are all enjoyable. Man of Steel was fine... hated BvsS but didn't see his other flicks.)

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Re: Army of the Dead (5/21/2021, D: Zack Snyder) - Netflix
 

Sounds like you and pitch meeting guy agreed on the depth of field. You have more in common than you think!

I do agree on the depth of field "choice" being the wrong one. I wonder if they adjusted some scenes because of the Tig addition (it was definitely noticeable in many of her scenes), and then just decided to make it a stylistic choice in the editing process?

When I say "looked great", I mean the overall color palette, the broad shots, the effects, the makeup and design. It's not just the focus choice.

Re: Army of the Dead (5/21/2021, D: Zack Snyder) - Netflix
 

I had every single one of those plot hole thoughts while watching the movie, but then I enjoy his videos for the most part. Fine, robot zombies will be expanded in a future universe, but there were a million other plot holes that were very annoying while watching this movie.

I get it. It's a turn your brain off zombie action movie. However, who writes these things and doesn't think of some of these obvious stupid glaring issues. It just makes everything more frustrating.

Re: Army of the Dead (5/21/2021, D: Zack Snyder) - Netflix
 

They have the way cooler movie during the credits and the actual plot was sort of baffling. Why am I supposed to care about these characters? I will say that it had some pretty good cinematography and that's definitely what Snyder should just do from now on. It even felt like a huge, successful rebuttal to people that complain his stuff since 300 has been too washed out.

Re: Army of the Dead (5/21/2021, D: Zack Snyder) - Netflix
 

Watched it last night, didn't like it very much. Dead pixels drove me nuts- thought my brand new 85" Vizio bit the dust. Dead pixels like that might not be much of an issue on a 65" TV but on a 85" TV they stand out.

Re: Army of the Dead (5/21/2021, D: Zack Snyder) - Netflix
 

RedLetterMedia reviews "Army of the Dead" in their latest Half in the Bag episode:



(Glad they discuss the dead pixel thing)

Re: Army of the Dead (5/21/2021, D: Zack Snyder) - Netflix
 

Wow, people seemed to really hate this. I thought it was fun. I never expected much from it.

Re: Army of the Dead (5/21/2021, D: Zack Snyder) - Netflix
 

Not really. It has a 70% RT score and a 76 audience score. This is one of the better reviewed movies from Zack Snyder's catalogue.

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/army_of_the_dead_2021

Maybe this forum isn't the right audience to judge this movie overall, but it seems like the majority of viewers like it. I saw it 2 weeks ago in the theater and I posted my thoughts here and I liked it as well.

Re: Army of the Dead (5/21/2021, D: Zack Snyder) - Netflix
 

Good parts. But could have used some trimming.

Army of the Dead though flew by.

Re: Army of the Dead (5/21/2021, D: Zack Snyder) - Netflix
 

I thought it was decent, but I can't lie and say some of the story holes bothered me. I was super annoyed with that character professing her love with the nuke incoming. There was no sense of urgency to a lot of this considering a nuke was an hour away.

Re: Army of the Dead (5/21/2021, D: Zack Snyder) - Netflix
 

I think this movie was somewhat entertaining but mostly disappointing. I expected it to at least be as good as Zach Snyder's "Dawn of the Dead" remake and the great opening credits montage gave me a lot of hope for that. But the opening credits ended up being the highlight of the entire movie with the rest of it being too many dialogue scenes with characters I didn't give a damn about, massive plotholes, and characters usually doing the dumbest thing possible in every situation. And I think no zombie movie should be 2.5 hours long, so it could've used better editing too. This should've been a really fun movie but, for me, wasn't.

I got a lot more entertainment out of the RedLetterMedia review and that Pitch Meeting episode than I did from the movie itself, so the movie probably needed more humor in it too.

Re: Army of the Dead (5/21/2021, D: Zack Snyder) - Netflix
 

You think the animated series is going to explain why we never saw what happened to Geeta? Or why the casino owner didn't just give them the combination? Or why they were flying through the air to rescue the person who got them all killed and they said they had 9 minutes left until the blast when they are looking at a task that'll probably take at least 30 minutes to accomplish and get out of the city?

Those are plot holes that will never be explained.

It is incredible to me that he managed to make one of my favorite rewatachable movies right out of the gate and then has fumbled the ball on nearly every project since.

Re: Army of the Dead (5/21/2021, D: Zack Snyder) - Netflix
 

I'll even simplify: Your movie is your movie. It doesn't matter what booklet or TV show or comic you put out. If your movie doesn't explain things (or at least allow viewers to figure out for themselves), you failed in writing it.


Agreed and I like the 2004 DOTD more than the original.

Re: Army of the Dead (5/21/2021, D: Zack Snyder) - Netflix
 

I know the daughter left the group before they mentioned the 9 minute thing, so I’ll be generous and say she left with T-minus 30 minutes before the nuke is dropped. Realistically, how fast do you think you could search every room of an entire Las Vegas Hotel and Casino looking for one person?

I’m thinking it would take a lot longer than 30 minutes. Or an hour. Or 5 hours. And that’s going on the assumption that the person was even IN that building.

Re: Army of the Dead (5/21/2021, D: Zack Snyder) - Netflix
 

As much as I agree with the criticism about confusing/confounding/nonsensical parts of the movie, I can't deny I had a lot of fun watching it. It probably doesn't speak well of the movie that an hour into it I gave up on the movie being anything other than a collection of "cool moments", but there were enough of them I was never bored. I would have enjoyed seeing this with a crowd.

It reminded me of one of those pictures where they put together a hundred different items from movies and you see how many you can spot. The obvious ones being Oceans 11, Aliens, Star Wars, 300, Raiders Of The Lost Ark, I Am Legend, Clash Of The Titans... but I image that's only scratching the surface.

Re: Army of the Dead (5/21/2021, D: Zack Snyder) - Netflix
 

I thought this was a lot of fun and I’ve been generally pretty disappointed in Snyder for the past decade. I agree it had some pretty bad plot holes, but I enjoyed the performances and action enough to let them slide. I will say, I wouldn’t classify some of the dangling threads as plot holes. For example, I liked it not coming back to the dried out zombies, as they were basically set up as Chekhov’s climatic zombie battle, and having them just end up being a throwaway observation kept things less predictable.

Re: Army of the Dead (5/21/2021, D: Zack Snyder) - Netflix
 

My original post was more towards the fact that this film is a franchise starter. The seeds of world building start here with the whole alternate timelines, UFO's, Area 51, mythology, philosophy, cyborg zombies, etc.

Re: Army of the Dead (5/21/2021, D: Zack Snyder) - Netflix
 

Then why didn't they show a shot of her? I rewound the movie to make sure I hadn't missed her falling out of the helicopter. Did Snyder lose track of his characters or something? How could no one watching this in the process not clock that they completely failed to show what happened to the person who drove the plot in the last 1/3 of the movie? Seems super lazy.

And as for the code being irrelevant, it's not. It's ridiculous that it's his safe. I actually forgot it was his safe because it makes no sense that he wouldn't know how to open it. Here's the solution - it's not his casino but he knows the money is there. Boom, problem solved and nothing else needs to be changed. I did that with 10 seconds of thought.

Let's say it was a house - if a movie plot was "hey, I need you to go in my house and get something out of my safe. You'll need a safe cracker." It's not unreasonable for the character to ask "why do I need a safe cracker for your safe?". If they made a point of saying it was his, then they have to make a point of saying why he can't open it. This is Writing 101 stuff here.

I was trying to be generous to land the helicopter, go down two flights of stairs, get the daughter, get back on the helicopter and clear the city. But yes, it would have been ridiculous to say 30 minutes. It's downright laughable to say 9 MINUTES.

Re: Army of the Dead (5/21/2021, D: Zack Snyder) - Netflix
 

And that’s not even taking into account the silly booby traps one must pass to even get to the safe. What was normal protocol before the zombie apocalypse? They sent 4 poor employees down to the safe and only one made it back up with that week’s payroll?

Re: Army of the Dead (5/21/2021, D: Zack Snyder) - Netflix
 

OK, granted I don't know how casinos work, but it does seem like it's not that farfetched that he doesn't know the code. If the code changes however frequently (daily?) and he's an international businessman, it doesn't seem weird to me that he wouldn't know the code (or simply forgot it in the however many months/years). He might have been asleep in Japan when they changed the code and then by the time he woke up to get the code, zombies took over.

I find it far more unforgivable that a zombie got down from the roof, onto his horse, and halfway to his house, faster than a helicopter that took off from the same point and was already in flight.

Re: Army of the Dead (5/21/2021, D: Zack Snyder) - Netflix
 

Well, maybe before the fucking zombie apocalypse hit, high level employees were able to, I don't know, enter a code on a keypad to turn the traps off? Kind of how security systems tend to generally work. I'm just spitballing, though.