Go Back  DVD Talk Forum > Entertainment Discussions > Movie Talk
Reload this Page >

Superman (1978) - Which version to watch?

Movie Talk A Discussion area for everything movie related including films In The Theaters
View Poll Results: Which version of Superman to watch in 2018?
Subpar Man - Theatrical
59.26%
Soup Error, Maan - Special Edition
29.63%
Sue, Per Mann - Extended TV Cut
7.41%
Twikoff is my only Susan P. Manthony
3.70%
Voters: 27. You may not vote on this poll

Superman (1978) - Which version to watch?

Old 03-14-23, 10:41 AM
  #26  
DVD Talk Legend
 
milo bloom's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Chicago suburbs
Posts: 17,372
Received 1,125 Likes on 844 Posts
Re: Superman (1978) - Which version to watch?

I bought the extended TV cut as soon as it was available but I admit that I have a thing for extended TV cuts and they're not always the optimum viewing experience.

So I usually go with the special edition version for regular viewing.
The following users liked this post:
whotony (03-16-23)
Old 03-14-23, 11:25 AM
  #27  
DVD Talk Legend
 
GoldenJCJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Colorado
Posts: 23,782
Received 2,288 Likes on 1,520 Posts
Re: Superman (1978) - Which version to watch?

Originally Posted by mwbmis View Post
Well, he wrote a screenplay, and his name is on the film, but the person generally acknowledged to be responsible for what was actually shot is Tom Mankiewicz.
Digging around a little, it looks like Puzo’s script was a bit more serious. They brought in a couple other writers to add some more of the lighthearted/humorous stuff. I could tell you who is responsible for what thought. Although it sounds like Brando was throwing out some ridiculous ideas all for the sake of doing less work.
Old 03-14-23, 11:57 AM
  #28  
DVD Talk Hero
 
PhantomStranger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: The Phantom Zone
Posts: 26,347
Received 605 Likes on 519 Posts
Re: Superman (1978) - Which version to watch?

Originally Posted by CristonCole View Post
Guess I’m in the minority but I usually watch the SE now. I like the added bits ie. Krypton and Luther’s booby traps when Kal is approaching his lair.
As a huge fan of the movie, I agree. I actually have a tough time watching the theatrical version these days.

And while it's not something I'd watch over and over again, any fan should catch the television cut at least once. There are some amusing bits found nowhere else.
Old 03-14-23, 03:01 PM
  #29  
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
 
BobO'Link's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 9,630
Received 350 Likes on 280 Posts
Re: Superman (1978) - Which version to watch?

Usually the theatrical - but no matter which version I *always* skip the Superman & Lois flying bit as it just drags it down to a full stop.
Old 03-14-23, 04:41 PM
  #30  
DVD Talk God
 
DJariya's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: La Palma, CA
Posts: 73,507
Received 2,462 Likes on 1,825 Posts
Re: Superman (1978) - Which version to watch?

I personally prefer the Special edition for the home video release because it has Dick Donner and Tom Mankiewicz's commentary track and they give great insight into the production of the movie. I could care less what Spengler and Salkind think, they are the money guys.

Unfortunately, the special edition is not an option on the upcoming 4K box set. They go with the theatrical cut.
The following users liked this post:
Dr. DVD (03-14-23)
Old 03-15-23, 06:42 PM
  #31  
Inane Thread Master, 2018 TOTY
 
OldBoy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Are any of us really anywhere?
Posts: 47,702
Received 707 Likes on 605 Posts
Re: Superman (1978) - Which version to watch?

This is really a great origin story. The tv cut has almost an hour of backstory before the action begins. Truly a masterclass in filmmaking. This is a feel good flick.
Old 03-15-23, 06:44 PM
  #32  
Inane Thread Master, 2018 TOTY
 
OldBoy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Are any of us really anywhere?
Posts: 47,702
Received 707 Likes on 605 Posts
Re: Superman (1978) - Which version to watch?

And, John Williams is so freaking fantastic.
Old 03-15-23, 06:54 PM
  #33  
DVD Talk Legend
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Daytona Beach, FL
Posts: 23,201
Received 155 Likes on 118 Posts
Re: Superman (1978) - Which version to watch?

Originally Posted by OldBoy View Post
And, John Williams is so freaking fantastic.

He can make any movie, even mediocre ones, seem magical .

While I grew up with the theatrical version on cable and video, I now prefer the SE, as it's really grown on me. I particularly like the extra exposition at the beginning of the Phantom Zone , the fact that Jor-El is actually being investigated by the council as he sends off Kal, and especially the tests Superman undergoes from Luthor before reaching him.
Old 03-15-23, 07:10 PM
  #34  
Inane Thread Master, 2018 TOTY
 
OldBoy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Are any of us really anywhere?
Posts: 47,702
Received 707 Likes on 605 Posts
Re: Superman (1978) - Which version to watch?

The Maestro
Old 03-16-23, 06:01 PM
  #35  
Inane Thread Master, 2018 TOTY
 
OldBoy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Are any of us really anywhere?
Posts: 47,702
Received 707 Likes on 605 Posts
Re: Superman (1978) - Which version to watch?

Christopher Reeve was so perfect for this role.
The following 3 users liked this post by OldBoy:
BobO'Link (03-17-23), Dr. DVD (03-17-23), L. Ron zyzzle (03-16-23)
Old 03-16-23, 10:51 PM
  #36  
DVD Talk Legend
 
whotony's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: ^ Kristen Bell
Posts: 21,984
Received 401 Likes on 311 Posts
Re: Superman (1978) - Which version to watch?

I’d go with theatrical first from the 4K listening to the original sound fx track then after that My go to is that nearly 3 hour super cut.
Old 03-17-23, 03:54 AM
  #37  
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
 
Paul_SD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Hiking the Sisyphian trail
Posts: 8,570
Received 57 Likes on 47 Posts
Re: Superman (1978) - Which version to watch?

The extended TV cut is just about unwatchable to me because the scene extensions transform Luthor from a charmingly amoral sociopath to a tedious, charmless, mean-spirited sociopath/asshole. He's like that in the "Donner" cut of Superman II as well.
The editing Baird did, under the gun, was tonally perfect, and especially evident in the service of Luthor. IMO

There is a lot of material in the 2001 SE cut that I love- but also a couple scenes that I'm not as enchanted with, and one that butchers a great transition I always thought was spot on.
Old 03-17-23, 06:15 AM
  #38  
DVD Talk Ultimate Edition
 
Toddarino's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Northeastern Wisconsin
Posts: 4,077
Received 654 Likes on 440 Posts
Re: Superman (1978) - Which version to watch?

In preparation for the UHD set, I decided to finally watch that three hour cut. I picked up the bluray that has that and the special edition on it.
I liked it n all, but the pacing is all thrown off and it’s too long. Definitely not my favorite of the three.
I’m more familiar with the theatrical cut and I’ll watch the special edition one in a few weeks.
Old 03-17-23, 11:30 AM
  #39  
DVD Talk Legend
 
milo bloom's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Chicago suburbs
Posts: 17,372
Received 1,125 Likes on 844 Posts
Re: Superman (1978) - Which version to watch?

Originally Posted by BobO'Link View Post
Usually the theatrical - but no matter which version I *always* skip the Superman & Lois flying bit as it just drags it down to a full stop.
I can't fathom skipping that, it's the heart of the movie. Finding love among the aliens and sharing a secret part of your world.
The following users liked this post:
OldBoy (03-17-23)
Old 03-17-23, 01:33 PM
  #40  
Moderator
 
Geofferson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: The Village Green
Posts: 39,657
Received 71 Likes on 58 Posts
Re: Superman (1978) - Which version to watch?

I still have the 1982 TV cut my dad recorded on VHS when it first aired with commercials and all. I do have a soft spot for that but I do prefer the SE from a linear storytelling standpoint. Regardless of the version, arguably one of my favorite movies. Technically, aren't there 2 extended TV cuts, 1982 at 182m and 1994 at 188m?

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information -

Copyright © 2023 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.