New Star Wars Films from GOT Writers [not happening]
02-07-18, 07:29 AM
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I think you mostly hit the nail on the head. I believe (and I'm not privy to any inside info, this is just speculation) that KK and Lucasfilm weren't even THINKING about another trilogy BEFORE all the backlash over The Last Jedi. I also think you're right that Rian's announced role as "head of all things Star Wars" is going to get dialed back, although I still think his trilogy will be made.
I just can't believe they made TFA without having any kind of masterplan for the sequel trilogy. It's part eight of a nine part saga, not another fucking Friday the 13th sequel.
It sounds like Lucasfilm is fumbling around blindly like Warners is with the DC films. They need to be lader-focused like Marvel Studios, not handing out carte blanche movies to people they like.
02-07-18, 08:08 AM
#27
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I was shocked when I read that they didn't have the sequel trilogy all planned out. What on earth were they thinking? I personally didn't like the Force Awakens, and I haven't even seen the most recent movie. I don't think much of Abrams, and I haven't thought much of what these 2 guys have done with Game of Thrones when they venture off into their own ideas. I also see a lot of criticism going around right now. I'm surprised how fast the sheen has worn off the Disney/Star Wars merger.
02-07-18, 08:57 AM
#28
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I think you mostly hit the nail on the head. I believe (and I'm not privy to any inside info, this is just speculation) that KK and Lucasfilm weren't even THINKING about another trilogy BEFORE all the backlash over The Last Jedi. I also think you're right that Rian's announced role as "head of all things Star Wars" is going to get dialed back, although I still think his trilogy will be made.
They need fans talking about SW again (instead of bitching) and this will do it.
02-07-18, 09:59 AM
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02-07-18, 10:14 AM
#31
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These should turn out amazing as long as George RR Martin is the one writing the source material for them. 2038 can't get here soon enough!
02-07-18, 10:20 AM
#32
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Here is the thing that Kennedy understands but many fans don't-
Sequel performance is to a large extent related to how well the previous film was received. A large part of it's B.O. is not a metric of what people thought of it's intrinsic merit.
Sequel performance is to a large extent related to how well the previous film was received. A large part of it's B.O. is not a metric of what people thought of it's intrinsic merit.
02-07-18, 11:55 AM
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Except when a movie is #1 for a month straight and continued to reel in the dough to the tune of 1.3b. That perspective works for Justice League not Star Wars.
02-07-18, 11:59 AM
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I can't wait to see nudity in a Star Wars movie!!1!
02-07-18, 12:14 PM
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Remember, this is Disney we're talking about. Being #1 isn't enough. They don't want to just win. They want it all.
02-07-18, 12:48 PM
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Welp, I gotta be that guy to say he's never seen Game of Thrones (I've read the books) so I have no idea what to expect from these guys.
And now I'm starting to feel this may get oversaturated. It's one thing to have all the books and comics out there, because you can pace yourself on those, but having a bunch of movies feels overwhelming.
I guess I'm hoping they go for something really out there and different than the Skywalker saga.
And now I'm starting to feel this may get oversaturated. It's one thing to have all the books and comics out there, because you can pace yourself on those, but having a bunch of movies feels overwhelming.
I guess I'm hoping they go for something really out there and different than the Skywalker saga.
02-07-18, 01:19 PM
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02-07-18, 01:48 PM
#38
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I think Disney is going to have to come to terms with the fact that they are not going to be able to make everyone happy. In fact, trying to do so is about the surest way to make sure nobody is when it comes to a creative endeavor.
If The Last Jedi underperformed at the box office in their eyes, it's because they misread the market (and failed to break through to China, which appears to be something beyond their control with this property).
If The Last Jedi underperformed at the box office in their eyes, it's because they misread the market (and failed to break through to China, which appears to be something beyond their control with this property).
02-07-18, 02:22 PM
#39
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The worst way to make movies is to try to please & suck up to all fans.
No movie is going to please everyone.
The Last Jedi has made $1.3B worldwide as of right now. Some fans don't like it. So fucking what? Hardly a disaster or box office bomb.
As for this new trilogy with Weiss and Benioff running it, I hope it works out and given that it was announced now, I hope the guys spend the next year or two mapping out the 3 movies before they go into production.
No movie is going to please everyone.
The Last Jedi has made $1.3B worldwide as of right now. Some fans don't like it. So fucking what? Hardly a disaster or box office bomb.
As for this new trilogy with Weiss and Benioff running it, I hope it works out and given that it was announced now, I hope the guys spend the next year or two mapping out the 3 movies before they go into production.
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02-07-18, 02:50 PM
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02-08-18, 05:43 AM
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I always said that I would love to see a SW movie that didn't involve a fanboy directing/writing it because they wouldn't get up in any fan service. The beauty of ESB is that there were no fanboys yet, so Kirshner had the freedom to tell his story without fans wanting to see this or that. Guys like JJ Abrams, Gareth Edwards and Rian Johnson grew up on the films so there are certain things they think that will be 'cool' to the fans that they may have wanted to see. Perfect example: Flying Leia. That is fan service at its worst.
02-08-18, 10:14 AM
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The Problem With Disney Trying To Turn 'Star Wars' Into the Marvel Cinematic Universe.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/insertc.../#2c4e1067563d
Pretty spot on IMO.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/insertc.../#2c4e1067563d
Pretty spot on IMO.
02-08-18, 04:25 PM
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I always said that I would love to see a SW movie that didn't involve a fanboy directing/writing it because they wouldn't get up in any fan service. The beauty of ESB is that there were no fanboys yet, so Kirshner had the freedom to tell his story without fans wanting to see this or that. Guys like JJ Abrams, Gareth Edwards and Rian Johnson grew up on the films so there are certain things they think that will be 'cool' to the fans that they may have wanted to see. Perfect example: Flying Leia. That is fan service at its worst.
02-08-18, 08:48 PM
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I always said that I would love to see a SW movie that didn't involve a fanboy directing/writing it because they wouldn't get up in any fan service. The beauty of ESB is that there were no fanboys yet, so Kirshner had the freedom to tell his story without fans wanting to see this or that. Guys like JJ Abrams, Gareth Edwards and Rian Johnson grew up on the films so there are certain things they think that will be 'cool' to the fans that they may have wanted to see. Perfect example: Flying Leia. That is fan service at its worst.
ESB worked because it built on the universe that had been established in the previous movie without contradicting it - and no, Vader’s revelation was not a contradiction, it was a plot twist, and a rather brilliant one. No one, after seeing ESB, thought that scene was horrible. Everyone was talking about it. Who was lying? Vader, the clear villain? Or Obi Wan, the mentor we had all come to trust? And if Vader was telling the truth, what did that mean for Luke, if he was truly the son of the most evil, hated man in the galaxy?
That’s the kind of “fan service” we expect - to be taken to new places and new stories that build on what went before, not ignore it or mock it.
No, that doesn’t mean we need all of the same characters, settings and stories. But since this trilogy is, ostensibly at least, supposed to continue the same saga, certain core characters are kind of expected. And things like bringing back Ackbar, just to dismissively kill him off, are kind of off putting to many fans. And let’s not even get into the “let’s save all the poor animals - who cares about the SLAVES, or the RESISTANCE?” subplot.
03-19-19, 05:09 PM
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A contact, who has worked on every Disney Star Wars film, has shared some interesting information. According to them, the next Star Wars film could possibly begin filming this Fall, and it will be the first film in the series of films by Game of Thrones showrunners David Benioff and D.B. Weiss. I am trying to get some confirmation on this information from other places, but as of now I only have one source, so I can only report this as a rumor, so use your pinches of cinnamon as you wish. Because of that simple fact, I can’t say I am as confident in this as I am about the Obi-Wan Kenobi streaming service series report, though the source provided proof they have worked on every Star Wars film since Disney’s acquisition of Lucasfilm and claim they are “95% confident this is accurate.” So let’s simply go over what we were told.
Our source told us they were:
“…approached about working on the next movie this Autumn. It is not the Rian Johnson trilogy, it is the Game of Thrones guys’ first movie, and it is set during the Old Republic, as Disney wants to open up the Star Wars timeline and appeal to a more ‘Game of Thrones‘ style audience.”
This really seems so on-the-nose in terms of what fans have been wishing for from these guys, so I asked for clarity on what else he heard about the project:
“So the timeline is hundreds of years prior to the Skywalkers, so think almost Star Wars meets Lord of the Rings.”
I asked if there was any grasp on something tangible happening for this production yet, or if it was all strictly talk/discussion based, and according to our source, the art departments are doing pre-production work as we speak:
“Filming starts in the Fall and art departments are in design phases now as the script is being finalized. That is all I know but I am 95% confident that this is accurate.”
Again, as of now I can only report this as a rumor because I have not been able to secure a second source on this information. The source has proven to be reliable in the past, and has been involved with all Disney-owned Star Wars films to date. But, with anything, as I like to say because I hate the use of the phrase “grain of salt”, use a pinch of cinnamon with this information. I am doing everything I can to dig and find more information about this, as it would certainly be very exciting news to know the next Star Wars movie will be going into production soon, as we prepare ourselves to say farewell to the Skywalkers when Episode IX hits theaters in nine months.
Our source told us they were:
“…approached about working on the next movie this Autumn. It is not the Rian Johnson trilogy, it is the Game of Thrones guys’ first movie, and it is set during the Old Republic, as Disney wants to open up the Star Wars timeline and appeal to a more ‘Game of Thrones‘ style audience.”
This really seems so on-the-nose in terms of what fans have been wishing for from these guys, so I asked for clarity on what else he heard about the project:
“So the timeline is hundreds of years prior to the Skywalkers, so think almost Star Wars meets Lord of the Rings.”
I asked if there was any grasp on something tangible happening for this production yet, or if it was all strictly talk/discussion based, and according to our source, the art departments are doing pre-production work as we speak:
“Filming starts in the Fall and art departments are in design phases now as the script is being finalized. That is all I know but I am 95% confident that this is accurate.”
Again, as of now I can only report this as a rumor because I have not been able to secure a second source on this information. The source has proven to be reliable in the past, and has been involved with all Disney-owned Star Wars films to date. But, with anything, as I like to say because I hate the use of the phrase “grain of salt”, use a pinch of cinnamon with this information. I am doing everything I can to dig and find more information about this, as it would certainly be very exciting news to know the next Star Wars movie will be going into production soon, as we prepare ourselves to say farewell to the Skywalkers when Episode IX hits theaters in nine months.
03-19-19, 05:44 PM
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Old Republic era could definitely be cool. I haven’t watched a lot of Game of Thrones so the two show runners from that don’t do much for me either way. I know that’s a well made and popular show, but I’m just not a fan personally.
