Wonder Woman 1984 (2020, D: Jenkins) S: Gadot, Wiig -- News and Rumors
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Re: Wonder Woman 1984 (2020, D: Jenkins) S: Gadot, Wiig -- News and Rumors
That’s fucking awesome no extra cost for Max subscribers!! How can they do that??? That’s fucking amazing!!!
#527
DVD Talk God
Re: Wonder Woman 1984 (2020, D: Jenkins) S: Gadot, Wiig -- News and Rumors
Patty Jenkins tweeted the news.
On a fucking shitty year, this is a nice Christmas gift from WB.
On a fucking shitty year, this is a nice Christmas gift from WB.
#529
Re: Wonder Woman 1984 (2020, D: Jenkins) S: Gadot, Wiig -- News and Rumors
I wonder how they weigh the decisions of it being more important to get more HBO Max subscribers vs. charging $30 PVOD.
#530
DVD Talk God
Re: Wonder Woman 1984 (2020, D: Jenkins) S: Gadot, Wiig -- News and Rumors
I think AT&T is going to write off some of the cost of this movie as a programming cost for HBO Max. That way the bill for it gets spread out.
Either way they’re taking a loss from this.
Either way they’re taking a loss from this.
#532
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Wonder Woman 1984 (2020, D: Jenkins) S: Gadot, Wiig -- News and Rumors
Amazing it's going to be free to subscriber's. Now they need a damn deal with Roku.
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#533
DVD Talk God
Re: Wonder Woman 1984 (2020, D: Jenkins) S: Gadot, Wiig -- News and Rumors
I just took a look at a few comments and international fans aren't happy about this move since HBO Max isn't available overseas. And of course the nefarious ones are psyched to steal it.
#534
DVD Talk Hero
Re: Wonder Woman 1984 (2020, D: Jenkins) S: Gadot, Wiig -- News and Rumors
This is fantastic news. No chance I would have braved the theater for this (or any movie). Now I get to watch in the comfort of my home? Fucking outstanding
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#535
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Re: Wonder Woman 1984 (2020, D: Jenkins) S: Gadot, Wiig -- News and Rumors
Maybe they're hoping this will force Roku to cave. There's going to be a lot of demand for HBO Max. And Roku will be the only streaming device that doesn't offer it. That won't be good for Roku going into the Holiday shopping season.
#536
DVD Talk God
Re: Wonder Woman 1984 (2020, D: Jenkins) S: Gadot, Wiig -- News and Rumors
Gal just tweeted the news.
#537
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Wonder Woman 1984 (2020, D: Jenkins) S: Gadot, Wiig -- News and Rumors
Strange. Grace Randolph has yet to make any acknowledgement of this on her YouTube channel. Typically she's all over stuff like this from WB.
#539
DVD Talk God
Re: Wonder Woman 1984 (2020, D: Jenkins) S: Gadot, Wiig -- News and Rumors
#540
DVD Talk God
Re: Wonder Woman 1984 (2020, D: Jenkins) S: Gadot, Wiig -- News and Rumors
I also feel like this move was also instigated by the new Warner Media CEO to help get HBO Max a highly touted property to increase subscriptions. This is his first big splashy move.
In fact, he just tweeted about it just now.
Here's his press release explaining the decision:
Today we announced that Wonder Woman 1984, the eagerly anticipated tentpole film by Patty Jenkins — with Gal Gadot and Chris Pine reprising their roles as Diana Prince and Steve Trevor — is going to be released worldwide in theaters on December 25th. In the United States, we will also be making this remarkable movie available on HBO Max at no extra cost the same day that Wonder Woman 1984 premieres in theaters, for the first month of the film’s release.
For a movie of this scale, this is unprecedented. Given that, we wanted to share some context.
There are many things that factor into a decision like this:
We are committed to the theatrical experience and we believe giving exhibitors a movie of this nature is important right now. We believe in theaters because hundreds of millions of fans around the world value going to the movies. And for as long as fans seek out the theatrical experience, we will be there to serve them with great movies in partnership with exhibitors. Collectively, the fans get to decide these things, as they should.
Getting back to Wonder Woman 1984, we believe this decision will bring several benefits. The first and most important benefit is to the fans in the form of unprecedented choice from day one. The second benefit is to the exhibitors, providing an eagerly anticipated movie at a much-needed time while they take precautions in their operations. Finally, we believe that our creative partners and ourselves will benefit from this decision, in the form of fan response both theatrically and via HBO Max in the U.S.
I find it fascinating that we will be measuring the performance of this movie in an entirely new way. To use a line from The Wizard of Oz, we’re not in Kansas anymore. While we will pay attention to theatrical revenues, our expectations are clearly adjusted due to COVID-19. In parallel, we will be paying close attention to the numbers of families and fans diving into HBO Max, as we certainly anticipate that a portion of fans will choose to enjoy Wonder Woman 1984 that way on opening day and beyond. To provide a comparable, a little over four million fans in the U.S. enjoyed the first Wonder Woman movie on its opening day in 2017. Is it possible for that to happen again this Christmas with Wonder Woman 1984 between theaters and HBO Max? We are so excited to find out, doing everything in our power to provide the power of choice to fans.
Many of us could use an uplifting story this holiday season. We think we have that and more in WW84. We believe audiences are going to love every minute of this great movie this holiday season and we are looking forward to sharing it in this unprecedented way.
Jason Kilar
WarnerMedia CEO
For a movie of this scale, this is unprecedented. Given that, we wanted to share some context.
There are many things that factor into a decision like this:
- The pandemic.
- Our belief in the theatrical experience and, to that end, the importance of exhibitors.
- Our mission to be strong and supportive partners to Patty, Gal, producer Chuck Roven and the entire Wonder Woman 1984 team.
- And finally, the fans, which is where important decisions like this should always start and should always end.
We are committed to the theatrical experience and we believe giving exhibitors a movie of this nature is important right now. We believe in theaters because hundreds of millions of fans around the world value going to the movies. And for as long as fans seek out the theatrical experience, we will be there to serve them with great movies in partnership with exhibitors. Collectively, the fans get to decide these things, as they should.
Getting back to Wonder Woman 1984, we believe this decision will bring several benefits. The first and most important benefit is to the fans in the form of unprecedented choice from day one. The second benefit is to the exhibitors, providing an eagerly anticipated movie at a much-needed time while they take precautions in their operations. Finally, we believe that our creative partners and ourselves will benefit from this decision, in the form of fan response both theatrically and via HBO Max in the U.S.
I find it fascinating that we will be measuring the performance of this movie in an entirely new way. To use a line from The Wizard of Oz, we’re not in Kansas anymore. While we will pay attention to theatrical revenues, our expectations are clearly adjusted due to COVID-19. In parallel, we will be paying close attention to the numbers of families and fans diving into HBO Max, as we certainly anticipate that a portion of fans will choose to enjoy Wonder Woman 1984 that way on opening day and beyond. To provide a comparable, a little over four million fans in the U.S. enjoyed the first Wonder Woman movie on its opening day in 2017. Is it possible for that to happen again this Christmas with Wonder Woman 1984 between theaters and HBO Max? We are so excited to find out, doing everything in our power to provide the power of choice to fans.
Many of us could use an uplifting story this holiday season. We think we have that and more in WW84. We believe audiences are going to love every minute of this great movie this holiday season and we are looking forward to sharing it in this unprecedented way.
Jason Kilar
WarnerMedia CEO
#541
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
Re: Wonder Woman 1984 (2020, D: Jenkins) S: Gadot, Wiig -- News and Rumors
I'm happy about the news. There's no way I was going to a theater to see this and I'd hate to see them just keep pushing it.
#542
DVD Talk Hero
Re: Wonder Woman 1984 (2020, D: Jenkins) S: Gadot, Wiig -- News and Rumors
I don't really see how the entire US isn't a pandemic hellscape by the time Christmas rolls around.
I'm in the Midwest, and it's absolutely blowing up around me. Where I'm at, the number of active cases has increased 30x since the first of October. My county went from about ten to over three hundred, with no signs of letting up. It's even worse in other surrounding counties. And I suspect lots of people are sick and not getting tested, so the real stats are even worse than the official ones.
And Thanksgiving is next week... Kids coming home from college, families traveling and getting together... I'm actually terrified for what's coming in the next couple of months.
I'm in the Midwest, and it's absolutely blowing up around me. Where I'm at, the number of active cases has increased 30x since the first of October. My county went from about ten to over three hundred, with no signs of letting up. It's even worse in other surrounding counties. And I suspect lots of people are sick and not getting tested, so the real stats are even worse than the official ones.
And Thanksgiving is next week... Kids coming home from college, families traveling and getting together... I'm actually terrified for what's coming in the next couple of months.
#543
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Re: Wonder Woman 1984 (2020, D: Jenkins) S: Gadot, Wiig -- News and Rumors
Likewise. And next week during Thanksgiving, it's going to be the beginning of net level bad, which will carry into Christmas. So yeah, staying home and watching this is a smart decision on their part.
Now we need Bond to be released next this way.
Now we need Bond to be released next this way.
#544
DVD Talk Limited Edition
Re: Wonder Woman 1984 (2020, D: Jenkins) S: Gadot, Wiig -- News and Rumors
I have MAX...
but I'm headed to the Theater to watch this one👍👍
but I'm headed to the Theater to watch this one👍👍
#545
DVD Talk Legend & 2021 TOTY Winner
Re: Wonder Woman 1984 (2020, D: Jenkins) S: Gadot, Wiig -- News and Rumors
Fine with me. I just switched to AT&T's internet TV deal, and have a free 30 day trial ready to activate. I think I will wait until mid-December to activate it. Free sounds good to me. They have to be taking a bath on this though.
Theaters here just closed again for minimum 3 weeks by the state's order, and who knows if they will even be open again by Christmas.
Theaters here just closed again for minimum 3 weeks by the state's order, and who knows if they will even be open again by Christmas.
#546
Re: Wonder Woman 1984 (2020, D: Jenkins) S: Gadot, Wiig -- News and Rumors
I wonder if they’ll stop free trials beyond existing unique codes.
#548
DVD Talk God
Re: Wonder Woman 1984 (2020, D: Jenkins) S: Gadot, Wiig -- News and Rumors
Wow. Awesome.
#549
Moderator
Re: Wonder Woman 1984 (2020, D: Jenkins) S: Gadot, Wiig -- News and Rumors
I wonder if this will be HBO Max's first 4K UHD title.
#550
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Wonder Woman 1984 (2020, D: Jenkins) S: Gadot, Wiig -- News and Rumors
Really surprised by this.. but, it's an opportunity to really push HBO Max. Theaters in WA will likely remain closed for the rest of the year, so I'm glad to be able to watch from home.