Who are A-list actors, B-list, etc...?
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Who are A-list actors, B-list, etc...?
And what denotes them as such? Their Oscar worthy performances, their box office returns? Both or none?
Spun off from another thread. It makes an interesting question. Who are the "A-list" actors, etc...?
Spun off from another thread. It makes an interesting question. Who are the "A-list" actors, etc...?
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Re: Who are A-list actors, B-list, etc...?
Someone like George Clooney, Brad Pitt, Tom Hanks, Tom Cruise are IMO A-listers. Those who command high salaries and are still cast in high profile movies.
B-listers are most TV series stars, Jeffrey Dean Morgan, Channing Tatum, most action stars, Gerard Butler, Vin Diesel etc.
C-listers or below: TV series stars, most young adult stars, straight to video etc.
Honestly, I think someone like Nicolas Cage has fallen to C-list level. Bruce Willis is IMO pretty close to here as well.
B-listers are most TV series stars, Jeffrey Dean Morgan, Channing Tatum, most action stars, Gerard Butler, Vin Diesel etc.
C-listers or below: TV series stars, most young adult stars, straight to video etc.
Honestly, I think someone like Nicolas Cage has fallen to C-list level. Bruce Willis is IMO pretty close to here as well.
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Re: Who are A-list actors, B-list, etc...?
Someone like George Clooney, Brad Pitt, Tom Hanks, Tom Cruise are IMO A-listers. Those who command high salaries and are still cast in high profile movies.
B-listers are most TV series stars, Jeffrey Dean Morgan, Channing Tatum, most action stars, Gerard Butler, Vin Diesel etc.
C-listers or below: TV series stars, most young adult stars, straight to video etc.
Honestly, I think someone like Nicolas Cage has fallen to C-list level. Bruce Willis is IMO pretty close to here as well.
B-listers are most TV series stars, Jeffrey Dean Morgan, Channing Tatum, most action stars, Gerard Butler, Vin Diesel etc.
C-listers or below: TV series stars, most young adult stars, straight to video etc.
Honestly, I think someone like Nicolas Cage has fallen to C-list level. Bruce Willis is IMO pretty close to here as well.
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Re: Who are A-list actors, B-list, etc...?
I'd say an A-Lister has the ability to open a movie based on their name alone. People will say they went to see the new "insert name here" film instead of saying the actual title of the film.
I'd say the actor/actress needs longevity. Be a top name for many years. Some actors will get really famous for a year or two and then fall out of the limelight. Tom Cruise has been a top name for decades. The guy that was in Avatar was in a few high profile movies and now I can't even remember what his name was for this post.
I'd say the actor/actress needs longevity. Be a top name for many years. Some actors will get really famous for a year or two and then fall out of the limelight. Tom Cruise has been a top name for decades. The guy that was in Avatar was in a few high profile movies and now I can't even remember what his name was for this post.
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Re: Who are A-list actors, B-list, etc...?
I think A-list actors are the ones who have gained their status through talent, hard work, and appeal (like Cruise) and are smart enough to know which movies to go with and which ones to avoid. The ones who don't give their performance their full attention or are greedy or desperate enough to act in anything that comes along (like Cage) are the ones who can kiss their A-list status goodbye.
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Re: Who are A-list actors, B-list, etc...?
"Let's go see the new Clint Eastwood movie"
An A list actor is the most important thing about a movie. More important than the plot or title. On the poster their name is as big, or bigger than the film title. Equal to the title is 100% billing. Larger than the title is around 110% billing. Traditional the actor's name will be above the title.
A list stars have been replaced with franchises for the most part. "STAR WARS" is the most important thing about a Star Wars film regardless of how big the stars appearing in it.
In some cases you have combinations. Harrison Ford/Indiana Jones, Sean Connery/James Bond, Clint Eastwood/Dirty Harry, where the sum is greater than the parts.
Current A listers who stand on their own would be Tom Hanks, Denzel Washington, Tom Cruise.
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Re: Who are A-list actors, B-list, etc...?
A-Listers are stars who I so big, that their name alone can open up a movie and have huge mainstream recognition. Think name above the title. A-listers are pretty much dead now a days with the birth of the franchise and social media being prevalent, but they still remain. Examples are Tom Cruise, Denzel Washington, Tom Hanks, Brad Pitt, The Rock, and Jennifer Lawrence.
B-Listers are the actors that people know and recognize, but they oftentimes can't carry a movie by themselves outside of a genre or a franchise, because their name alone won't get people to the theatre. Also features actors that Hollywood push desperately to get them on the A-list. Examples: Channing Tatum, Vin Diesel, Chris Pratt, Jessica Chastin, Gerard Butler, Mark Wahlberg, Seth Rogen, Melissa McCarthy, Jason Statham.
C-Listers: The character actors, and people who could never headline an A or B movie, but could headline a straight to video movie or TV series. This is the biggest group. Also includes actors who have that big role that gets their name out. Also typically features former A and B list actors after roles dry up. Examples are Nicholas Cage, Bruce Willis, Jean Claude Van Damme, Steven Segal, Micahel Madsen, Keifer Sutherland or big name TV actors like Norman Reedus or Kit Harrington.
D-list: YouTube celebrities, reality TV show "stars".
B-Listers are the actors that people know and recognize, but they oftentimes can't carry a movie by themselves outside of a genre or a franchise, because their name alone won't get people to the theatre. Also features actors that Hollywood push desperately to get them on the A-list. Examples: Channing Tatum, Vin Diesel, Chris Pratt, Jessica Chastin, Gerard Butler, Mark Wahlberg, Seth Rogen, Melissa McCarthy, Jason Statham.
C-Listers: The character actors, and people who could never headline an A or B movie, but could headline a straight to video movie or TV series. This is the biggest group. Also includes actors who have that big role that gets their name out. Also typically features former A and B list actors after roles dry up. Examples are Nicholas Cage, Bruce Willis, Jean Claude Van Damme, Steven Segal, Micahel Madsen, Keifer Sutherland or big name TV actors like Norman Reedus or Kit Harrington.
D-list: YouTube celebrities, reality TV show "stars".
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Re: Who are A-list actors, B-list, etc...?
^ It doesn't help when once reputable shows that have since turned to shit like Entertainment Tonight don't know the difference either and will refer to people like Kim Kardashian, Mariah Carey, and Sophia Vergara as "A-Listers".
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Re: Who are A-list actors, B-list, etc...?
In the world of celebrity worship, the biggest celebrities, no matter what they do or don't do, are A-listers. I guess it depends on how many red carpets you appear on and who the video paparazzi converge the most on.
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Re: Who are A-list actors, B-list, etc...?
I've actually given this some thought in real life. My definitions:
A-List: I divide this into box-office A-list and critical A-list. Leonardo DiCaprio, Tom Cruise, Denzel Washington, Angelina Jolie, Brad Pitt, and so on would be on the box-office A-list. While they are no guarantee of box office success, they are known by pretty much everyone and have been around forever. Critical A-list would be the likes of Cate Blanchett, Julianne Moore, Daniel Day-Lewis, Meryl Streep. They tend to veer towards more highbrow work that may not set the box office on fire, but they get plenty of attention during awards season. And of course, actors on both sub-lists will hybridize freely. The ultimate combo is a crowd-pleasing and critically acclaimed movie that stars an A-lister like Titanic or Forrest Gump.
B-List: The majority of famous actors would go here. Most of the Marvel and DC actors like the various white guys named Chris, Jake Gyllenhaal, Emily Blunt, the lead actors on Game of Thrones, etc. They're reasonably well known, can headline a mid or low budget film, or star in a franchise pic where the movie is bigger than them. They can easily be confused for another actor by the general public or be known by their filmography than their actual name though.
C-List: This is a general catch-all. There's a mix of stars who used to be A-list and have aged out (Nicolas Cage, Gwyneth Paltrow), most of the random 20-something interchangeable starlets and hunks, TV stars who have some niche appeal (Mark Harmon, Johnny Galecki), Broadway stage actors, and soap stars. A C-Lister can still make a ton of money and be recognized by the public on some level, but they are most definitely not at a Jennifer Lawrence level of fame.
D-List: The dregs of celebrity, looked down on by those above them. Minimally talented "famous for being famous" people dwell in this basement. While wildly successful, I'd put the Kardashians here, along with most reality stars.
Now of course one can move up or down the ranks depending on how well they navigate the treacherous waters of Hollywood.
Edited to add: I'd add in a Legends category. Veteran actors who may or may not work as actively as in their prime, but everyone knows them for their classic work. Nicholson, De Niro, Pacino, Keaton, Field, Streep, etc.
A-List: I divide this into box-office A-list and critical A-list. Leonardo DiCaprio, Tom Cruise, Denzel Washington, Angelina Jolie, Brad Pitt, and so on would be on the box-office A-list. While they are no guarantee of box office success, they are known by pretty much everyone and have been around forever. Critical A-list would be the likes of Cate Blanchett, Julianne Moore, Daniel Day-Lewis, Meryl Streep. They tend to veer towards more highbrow work that may not set the box office on fire, but they get plenty of attention during awards season. And of course, actors on both sub-lists will hybridize freely. The ultimate combo is a crowd-pleasing and critically acclaimed movie that stars an A-lister like Titanic or Forrest Gump.
B-List: The majority of famous actors would go here. Most of the Marvel and DC actors like the various white guys named Chris, Jake Gyllenhaal, Emily Blunt, the lead actors on Game of Thrones, etc. They're reasonably well known, can headline a mid or low budget film, or star in a franchise pic where the movie is bigger than them. They can easily be confused for another actor by the general public or be known by their filmography than their actual name though.
C-List: This is a general catch-all. There's a mix of stars who used to be A-list and have aged out (Nicolas Cage, Gwyneth Paltrow), most of the random 20-something interchangeable starlets and hunks, TV stars who have some niche appeal (Mark Harmon, Johnny Galecki), Broadway stage actors, and soap stars. A C-Lister can still make a ton of money and be recognized by the public on some level, but they are most definitely not at a Jennifer Lawrence level of fame.
D-List: The dregs of celebrity, looked down on by those above them. Minimally talented "famous for being famous" people dwell in this basement. While wildly successful, I'd put the Kardashians here, along with most reality stars.
Now of course one can move up or down the ranks depending on how well they navigate the treacherous waters of Hollywood.
Edited to add: I'd add in a Legends category. Veteran actors who may or may not work as actively as in their prime, but everyone knows them for their classic work. Nicholson, De Niro, Pacino, Keaton, Field, Streep, etc.
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Re: Who are A-list actors, B-list, etc...?
C-Listers: The character actors, and people who could never headline an A or B movie, but could headline a straight to video movie or TV series. This is the biggest group. Also includes actors who have that big role that gets their name out. Also typically features former A and B list actors after roles dry up. Examples are Nicholas Cage, Bruce Willis, Jean Claude Van Damme, Steven Segal, Micahel Madsen, Keifer Sutherland or big name TV actors like Norman Reedus or Kit Harrington.
D-list: YouTube celebrities, reality TV show "stars".
Back in like 2005-2006, I would say Kiefer Sutherland was probably B-list and maybe even close to A list.
24 just came off an Emmy from season 5 and it was their highest rated season ever. Plus, Kiefer was IIRC the highest paid male actor in TV at the time.
But, now in 2017, I think your assessment of him being C list seems pretty accurate. He's on a pretty high profile ABC TV series, but he's 50 now and can't get lead roles in big Hollywood movies anymore. The last feature he did as a lead was Forsaken a couple of years ago, but it was a small Indie movie.
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Re: Who are A-list actors, B-list, etc...?
A-Listers are stars who I so big, that their name alone can open up a movie and have huge mainstream recognition. Think name above the title. A-listers are pretty much dead now a days with the birth of the franchise and social media being prevalent, but they still remain. Examples are Tom Cruise, Denzel Washington, Tom Hanks, Brad Pitt, The Rock, and Jennifer Lawrence.
B-Listers are the actors that people know and recognize, but they oftentimes can't carry a movie by themselves outside of a genre or a franchise, because their name alone won't get people to the theatre. Also features actors that Hollywood push desperately to get them on the A-list. Examples: Channing Tatum, Vin Diesel, Chris Pratt, Jessica Chastin, Gerard Butler, Mark Wahlberg, Seth Rogen, Melissa McCarthy, Jason Statham.
C-Listers: The character actors, and people who could never headline an A or B movie, but could headline a straight to video movie or TV series. This is the biggest group. Also includes actors who have that big role that gets their name out. Also typically features former A and B list actors after roles dry up. Examples are Nicholas Cage, Bruce Willis, Jean Claude Van Damme, Steven Segal, Micahel Madsen, Keifer Sutherland or big name TV actors like Norman Reedus or Kit Harrington.
D-list: YouTube celebrities, reality TV show "stars".
B-Listers are the actors that people know and recognize, but they oftentimes can't carry a movie by themselves outside of a genre or a franchise, because their name alone won't get people to the theatre. Also features actors that Hollywood push desperately to get them on the A-list. Examples: Channing Tatum, Vin Diesel, Chris Pratt, Jessica Chastin, Gerard Butler, Mark Wahlberg, Seth Rogen, Melissa McCarthy, Jason Statham.
C-Listers: The character actors, and people who could never headline an A or B movie, but could headline a straight to video movie or TV series. This is the biggest group. Also includes actors who have that big role that gets their name out. Also typically features former A and B list actors after roles dry up. Examples are Nicholas Cage, Bruce Willis, Jean Claude Van Damme, Steven Segal, Micahel Madsen, Keifer Sutherland or big name TV actors like Norman Reedus or Kit Harrington.
D-list: YouTube celebrities, reality TV show "stars".
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Re: Who are A-list actors, B-list, etc...?
I think with all these tent-pole movies, there is really a new sub-catagory : Franchise A-Listers.
A Franchise A-Lister is someone who can demand an astronomical salary -- for a certain role only. RDJ is an A-Lister when he plays Tony Stark, but maybe not in The Judge or Due Date. Daniel Craig can ask for the moon as 007, but not for Defiance. If Daniel Ratcliff were to play Harry Potter again, he'd get a fortune no doubt - but as a farting corpse, he's closer to scale wages.
Tom Cruise, Ben Affleck and Jennifer Lawrence can ask for more for resuming their franchises, but they're A-Listers regardless of the movie - they can open a picture on name alone. The other guys I mentioned maybe can't.
Eddie Murphy after a string of flops isn't necessarily and A-Lister any more, but as Axel Foley, he certainly still is.
A Franchise A-Lister is someone who can demand an astronomical salary -- for a certain role only. RDJ is an A-Lister when he plays Tony Stark, but maybe not in The Judge or Due Date. Daniel Craig can ask for the moon as 007, but not for Defiance. If Daniel Ratcliff were to play Harry Potter again, he'd get a fortune no doubt - but as a farting corpse, he's closer to scale wages.
Tom Cruise, Ben Affleck and Jennifer Lawrence can ask for more for resuming their franchises, but they're A-Listers regardless of the movie - they can open a picture on name alone. The other guys I mentioned maybe can't.
Eddie Murphy after a string of flops isn't necessarily and A-Lister any more, but as Axel Foley, he certainly still is.
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Re: Who are A-list actors, B-list, etc...?
Above the title name credit.
Movies are without exception released theatrically.
Household name recognition.
Closet Homosexuality.
Movies are without exception released theatrically.
Household name recognition.
Closet Homosexuality.
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DVD Talk Hero
Re: Who are A-list actors, B-list, etc...?
C-listers are usually actors that don't get any billing on the movie's poster and play supporting roles in mainstream Hollywood releases. It can also include recognizable television actors that may be regulars on a hit show but aren't the main stars.
Someone as big as Bruce Willis once was can't really slip into the C or D list. A few bad movies doesn't change the fact he's starred in some of the biggest movies (Die Hard, The Sixth Sense, Armageddon) of all time. Paul Newman didn't suddenly become a C-lister because he got older.
Someone as big as Bruce Willis once was can't really slip into the C or D list. A few bad movies doesn't change the fact he's starred in some of the biggest movies (Die Hard, The Sixth Sense, Armageddon) of all time. Paul Newman didn't suddenly become a C-lister because he got older.
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DVD Talk Hero
Re: Who are A-list actors, B-list, etc...?
Yeah... Bruce Willis will never be the 1-segment secondary guest on a talk show inbetween the 2-segment first guest and the musical guest.
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Re: Who are A-list actors, B-list, etc...?
One can argue that someone like Mark Harmon could be considered a B-lister.
He's not a movie star, but he's on one of the highest rated shows on TV, also it's Executive Producer and is also one of the highest paid actors in TV as well. He's also the EP of one of it's spinoffs.
That's a lot of clout for an actor in TV. I doubt he would fall under Robin2099's definition of C-lister.
He's not a movie star, but he's on one of the highest rated shows on TV, also it's Executive Producer and is also one of the highest paid actors in TV as well. He's also the EP of one of it's spinoffs.
That's a lot of clout for an actor in TV. I doubt he would fall under Robin2099's definition of C-lister.