Go Back  DVD Talk Forum > Entertainment Discussions > Movie Talk
Reload this Page >

Good place to start with Monty Python?

Community
Search
Movie Talk A Discussion area for everything movie related including films In The Theaters

Good place to start with Monty Python?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 07-29-16 | 09:57 PM
  #1  
OldBoy's Avatar
Thread Starter
TOTY Winner 2018 and Inane Thread Master
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 54,194
Received 1,736 Likes on 1,423 Posts
From: "Are any of us really anywhere?"
Good place to start with Monty Python?

So I want to give at least one of their movies a shot. Seen bits and pieces. What's considered their best and best place to start?
Old 07-30-16 | 12:09 AM
  #2  
TomOpus's Avatar
DVD Talk Hero
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 41,618
Received 1,814 Likes on 1,299 Posts
From: Kansas City, MO
Re: Good place to start with Monty Python?

Holy Grail
Old 07-30-16 | 01:31 AM
  #3  
Josh-da-man's Avatar
DVD Talk Hero
 
Joined: Sep 2000
Posts: 49,614
Received 4,547 Likes on 2,991 Posts
From: The Bible Belt
Re: Good place to start with Monty Python?

The three movies are very different.

"The Meaning of Life" is closest to their Flying Circus tv series in that it's a collection of skits that showcase their unique sense of humor.

"The Holy Grail" is a single sustained narrative that feels like one of their skits expanded into a full-length feature.

"The Life of Brian" is an attempt at a more serious film, though it still features the Classic Monty Python sensibilities.

Brian is probably their best film, though Grail and Meaning are more representative of the group. All three, in addition to Flying Circus, are all worth watching.
Old 07-30-16 | 01:37 AM
  #4  
The Valeyard's Avatar
DVD Talk Legend
 
Joined: Sep 1999
Posts: 10,800
Received 84 Likes on 51 Posts
From: Building attractions one theme park at a time.
Re: Good place to start with Monty Python?

Start with "And Now For Something Completely Different."
Old 07-30-16 | 06:52 AM
  #5  
DVD Talk Legend
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 10,538
Received 964 Likes on 651 Posts
Re: Good place to start with Monty Python?

Originally Posted by The Valeyard
Start with "And Now For Something Completely Different."
While this is a good "sampler", it's a compilation of clips from the tv show. I'd skip it and watch the show instead.
The theatrical features, unrestricted by tv censorship, allowed them to go all out. Two are rated R.

If it was me, I'd watch the tv show then the movies. Skipping And Now For Something Completely Different. It's all gold.
Old 07-30-16 | 11:50 AM
  #6  
Nick Danger's Avatar
DVD Talk Hero
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 32,973
Received 2,389 Likes on 1,485 Posts
From: Albuquerque
Re: Good place to start with Monty Python?

Holy Grail is the most accessible. If it doesn't make you laugh, their humor is probably not going to work for you.
Old 07-30-16 | 11:57 AM
  #7  
GoldenJCJ's Avatar
DVD Talk Hero
 
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 32,835
Received 4,880 Likes on 3,051 Posts
From: Colorado
Re: Good place to start with Monty Python?

Originally Posted by Nick Danger
Holy Grail is the most accessible. If it doesn't make you laugh, their humor is probably not going to work for you.
Holy Grail is what made me realize that Monty Python just isn't for me. Actually, for the most part, British humor just doesn't work for me.
Old 07-30-16 | 12:52 PM
  #8  
Hailey G's Avatar
DVD Talk Legend
 
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 13,034
Received 1,052 Likes on 489 Posts
From: Detroit, formerly known as Obi-Wanma
Re: Good place to start with Monty Python?

Most people consider Grail the best. Personally, I like Life of Brian better. I also like Grail, though honestly I'm not a big fan of Meaning of Life. I do love the series though.

If you want to start from something more traditional, and if you like that, go further and further off the rails and see if it works for you, I would start with Brian, then Grail, and Meaning of Life next.

If after that, you still dig it, definitely check out Flying Circus.
Old 07-30-16 | 01:05 PM
  #9  
Mike86's Avatar
DVD Talk Hero
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 25,741
Received 1,413 Likes on 1,089 Posts
From: South Dakota
Re: Good place to start with Monty Python?

Originally Posted by GoldenJCJ
Holy Grail is what made me realize that Monty Python just isn't for me. Actually, for the most part, British humor just doesn't work for me.
I think that Monty Python and The Holy Grail is their most accessible film but I tend to not like Monty Python that much either. I went through a span of time where I tried getting into them and have seen all their films plus a handful of episodes of the series and overall it doesn't do much for me. I tend to find British humor really works or just falls flat for me.
Old 07-30-16 | 01:15 PM
  #10  
Trevor's Avatar
Challenge Guru & Comic Nerd
 
Joined: Apr 1999
Posts: 37,371
Received 951 Likes on 611 Posts
From: spiritually, Minnesota
Re: Good place to start with Monty Python?

Personally love it all, but understand how many won't. Holy Grail is tied as my favorite movie of all-time, but perhaps watching a show or two (or the compilation film) would be a good appetizer to get a taste.
Old 07-30-16 | 01:17 PM
  #11  
Trevor's Avatar
Challenge Guru & Comic Nerd
 
Joined: Apr 1999
Posts: 37,371
Received 951 Likes on 611 Posts
From: spiritually, Minnesota
Re: Good place to start with Monty Python?

And while the series is spectacularly hilarious, I think Fawlty Towers is better, and more accessible from a typical American perspective.
Old 07-30-16 | 07:02 PM
  #12  
Ash Ketchum's Avatar
DVD Talk Legend
 
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 13,288
Received 500 Likes on 370 Posts
Re: Good place to start with Monty Python?

Holy Grail and the TV show are the way to go.
Old 07-30-16 | 07:16 PM
  #13  
Ky-Fi's Avatar
DVD Talk Legend
 
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 10,928
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
From: Cape Ann, Massachusetts
Re: Good place to start with Monty Python?

Originally Posted by Trevor
And while the series is spectacularly hilarious, I think Fawlty Towers is better, and more accessible from a typical American perspective.
Flying Circus has many moments of brilliant, wildly adventurous comedy, but I also like Fawlty Towers better. The greatest sitcom of all time, IMO.
Old 07-30-16 | 07:29 PM
  #14  
inri222's Avatar
DVD Talk Godfather
 
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 50,673
Received 186 Likes on 122 Posts
Re: Good place to start with Monty Python?

Originally Posted by Josh-da-man
Brian is probably their best film
Originally Posted by Obi-Wan Jabroni
Most people consider Grail the best. Personally, I like Life of Brian better.
Old 07-30-16 | 07:47 PM
  #15  
DVD Talk Legend
 
Joined: Aug 1999
Posts: 20,188
Received 344 Likes on 220 Posts
From: behind the eight ball
Re: Good place to start with Monty Python?

Originally Posted by Ky-Fi
Flying Circus has many moments of brilliant, wildly adventurous comedy, but I also like Fawlty Towers better. The greatest sitcom of all time, IMO.
Farty Towels is awesome
Old 07-30-16 | 07:57 PM
  #16  
BobO'Link's Avatar
DVD Talk Legend
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 11,825
Received 1,345 Likes on 919 Posts
Re: Good place to start with Monty Python?

I agree with the Fawlty Towers being brilliant but I wouldn't consider it a good place to start for "Monty Python" films.

I'd start the *movies* with Monty Python and the Holy Grail as much as anything due to it feeling like a extended sketch from the show. After that go with Life of Brian, my personal favorite of the Python films, and then The Meaning of Life.
Old 07-30-16 | 08:38 PM
  #17  
astrochimp's Avatar
DVD Talk Legend
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 17,811
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
From: Ontario Canada
Re: Good place to start with Monty Python?

I'd start with a few pints. Perhaps something English. A nice dark ale.
Old 07-30-16 | 11:53 PM
  #18  
The Valeyard's Avatar
DVD Talk Legend
 
Joined: Sep 1999
Posts: 10,800
Received 84 Likes on 51 Posts
From: Building attractions one theme park at a time.
Re: Good place to start with Monty Python?

Originally Posted by rw2516
While this is a good "sampler", it's a compilation of clips from the tv show. I'd skip it and watch the show instead.
The theatrical features, unrestricted by tv censorship, allowed them to go all out. Two are rated R.

If it was me, I'd watch the tv show then the movies. Skipping And Now For Something Completely Different. It's all gold.

It's not a compilation of clips from the show. It's more of a "best of." They re-shot their favorite sketches for this film (intended as an introduction for an American audience). The timing on these new versions is absolutely perfect and I actually prefer them to the original sketches. It's the perfect precursor to Holy Grail.


Old 07-31-16 | 12:28 AM
  #19  
DVD Talk Legend
 
Joined: Sep 1999
Posts: 12,068
Received 300 Likes on 212 Posts
From: Relocated to Bot-Hell
Re: Good place to start with Monty Python?

I would say between Holy Grail and Life of Brian. Based on your viewing habits, I think you may enjoy Brian more but Holy Grail is pure comedy quotable gold.
Old 07-31-16 | 01:35 AM
  #20  
Alan Smithee's Avatar
DVD Talk Reviewer & TOAT Winner
 
Joined: Oct 1999
Posts: 11,116
Received 462 Likes on 345 Posts
From: USA
Re: Good place to start with Monty Python?

Going against the other answers, but first one I saw was Meaning of Life and I'd recommend that.
Old 07-31-16 | 02:08 AM
  #21  
davidh777's Avatar
DVD Talk Godfather
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 57,860
Received 1,740 Likes on 1,397 Posts
From: Home of 2013 NFL champion Seahawks
Re: Good place to start with Monty Python?

Holy Grail is one of my favorite comedies, but I rewatched it recently with some Python newbies and I could see it wasn't really connecting. I think Life of Brian has a clearer narrative and might be a better jumping-in spot.
Old 07-31-16 | 06:19 AM
  #22  
TomOpus's Avatar
DVD Talk Hero
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 41,618
Received 1,814 Likes on 1,299 Posts
From: Kansas City, MO
Re: Good place to start with Monty Python?

Originally Posted by davidh777
Holy Grail is one of my favorite comedies, but I rewatched it recently with some Python newbies and I could see it wasn't really connecting. I think Life of Brian has a clearer narrative and might be a better jumping-in spot.
The OP never established if he was a fan of the tv show. Not everybody gets them (or British humor). Since he never mentioned it, and was only asking about the movies, I assumed he was already familiar with them.
Old 07-31-16 | 07:11 AM
  #23  
james2025a's Avatar
DVD Talk Limited Edition
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 5,358
Likes: 0
Received 63 Likes on 52 Posts
Re: Good place to start with Monty Python?

Have any of you rewatched Fawlty Towers in recent years? Try it. I did about 5 years ago and whereas once I thought it was very funny I now found it to be absolutely HORRIBLE. Nigh on unwatchable shit. It has not aged well in the slightest.

As for the Flying Circus, it was very hit and miss. ANFSCD was best to see them gather the best skits in one place. As for the movies Brian is easily the best. And I actually have a lot of love for the Meaning of Life. I would actually put the Holy Grail as the worst movie. And that is still pretty good.
Old 07-31-16 | 07:24 AM
  #24  
bluetoast's Avatar
DVD Talk Legend
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 11,882
Received 326 Likes on 246 Posts
Re: Good place to start with Monty Python?

Yes, I saw a few episodes of Fawlty Towers about two years ago and love it.
Old 07-31-16 | 07:43 AM
  #25  
Trevor's Avatar
Challenge Guru & Comic Nerd
 
Joined: Apr 1999
Posts: 37,371
Received 951 Likes on 611 Posts
From: spiritually, Minnesota
Re: Good place to start with Monty Python?

Originally Posted by james2025a
Have any of you rewatched Fawlty Towers in recent years? Try it. I did about 5 years ago and whereas once I thought it was very funny I now found it to be absolutely HORRIBLE. Nigh on unwatchable shit. It has not aged well in the slightest.

As for the Flying Circus, it was very hit and miss. ANFSCD was best to see them gather the best skits in one place. As for the movies Brian is easily the best. And I actually have a lot of love for the Meaning of Life. I would actually put the Holy Grail as the worst movie. And that is still pretty good.
Wow. In all my years here, I've never read an opinion with which I disagree more. You win the forum today!


Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.