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Eric F 07-24-16 10:14 PM

3D no longer works for me
 
I've noticed recently that theatrical 3D isn't working for me anymore. Every few seconds the picture goes blurry and I have to refocus my vision.

Not sure what it is, maybe my age (late 40's), maybe the projection method, maybe a combination of things. This is especially noticeable at my local IMAX theater (probably because the screen is so large). On top of that it's giving me a headache to no end.

Frankly I'm just tired of 3D because there are too many downsides to it, and it rarely works the way it should. Anyone else noticing this?

Alan Smithee 07-24-16 10:21 PM

Re: 3D no longer works for me
 
Does it look bad at every theater or just the one IMAX? Did it ever work for you before? It seems for some people it just doesn't- I personally love it but the upcharges certainly aren't helping it any.

(At home, a lot of people said the recent Blu-Ray of "Comin At Ya" was nearly unwatchable, but I had no problems with it. You certainly have to focus on that one!)

The Antipodean 07-24-16 10:22 PM

Re: 3D no longer works for me
 
It's never really worked for me. Avatar was impressive, but I've gone out of my way to avoid it 99% of the time because it usually gives me a headache too. I think a lot of this is due to poor projection (it always seems too dark) but honestly, I only want 3D if it's going to utterly wow me and I don't want it slapped on every single blockbuster.

In fact, I'm surprised it still continues to be such a thing, as I thought the latest 3D "fad" would wear off eventually post-Avatar but it's been 7 years and seems like most blockbusters still go the 3D and 2D route - and every time I can I pick 2D myself.

E Unit 07-24-16 10:29 PM

Re: 3D no longer works for me
 
I never watch 3D in the theater, only at home. At home works fairly well for me.

Nick Danger 07-24-16 10:40 PM

Re: 3D no longer works for me
 
3D has given me a headache from the start. I watched one 3D movie after Avatar, and never went back.

My friend who only has one functional eye doesn't like it much either.

Eric F 07-24-16 10:43 PM

Re: 3D no longer works for me
 
I think it's worked better for me in the past, but it almost always gave me a headache. Unfortunately I have only 2 choices to see a theatrical movie, at my local real IMAX or the AMC Multiplex across the street. The IMAX is a much better viewing experience for the same price as the multiplex, but unfortunately never shows a 2D version if a 3D one is available. The multiplex always has a host of problems of its own.

After today's experience with Star Trek I'd rather not see a 3D movie any longer if I can help it but IMAX is such a better experience than the multiplex, where they just don't give a shit (I know, I worked there).

Brack 07-24-16 11:09 PM

Re: 3D no longer works for me
 

Originally Posted by Nick Danger (Post 12858526)
My friend who only has one functional eye doesn't like it much either.

I have a sister with an eye problem that sounds similar, so 3D doesn't work for her.

I used to see a lot of movies in 3D, but it just doesn't seem to be too necessary since most films aren't filmed with 3D cameras. That said, I think a lot of the big budget stuff have done some good 3D conversions. The price is another factor as well. I like my MoviePass, and since it doesn't cover 3D/IMAX premium showings, I haven't felt like I've missed much lately.

Numanoid 07-25-16 03:09 AM

Re: 3D no longer works for me
 
OP, if my vision started doing something that it hadn't done before, I'd definitely be scheduling an eye exam. Might be something happening in there that you want to catch sooner rather than later.

gmanca 07-25-16 06:05 AM

Re: 3D no longer works for me
 
I think the problem is bad 3D and the fact you are posting this after Star Trek Beyond was released tells me you saw it and led you to write this.

The action in that film as way too fast and blurry for good 3D let alone was there any depth perception on the bits where they were standing or things were static. I only saw the movie in 3D because it was the closest start time.

The 3D in Avatar and Gravity was amazing and tells me those who know how to do it can make it truly worthwhile.

Eric F 07-25-16 08:33 AM

Re: 3D no longer works for me
 
I had the same problem with Ghostbusters last week and when I saw The Jungle Book, all at my local Imax. And no, I don't need an eye exam- I think it's just a number of factors.

Ash Ketchum 07-25-16 08:59 AM

Re: 3D no longer works for me
 
I've had only two good 3-D experiences in the modern era: TRANSFORMERS 3 and CORALINE. TF3 was in IMAX and I was in the right seat at the right height for it. It was perfect. Everything else besides those two movies was either too dark or the sightlines were wrong. Or the film just didn't need to be in 3-D. I avoid 3-D now and saw both JUNGLE BOOK and LEGEND OF TARZAN in 2-D. The films weren't any good, but at least I didn't get eyestrain. The visuals in TARZAN were actually pretty good and sufficiently interesting without 3-D.

I saw Godard's last film, which was in 3-D, in Paris two years ago and it was absolutely frustrating. (It was called GOODBYE LANGUAGE or something like that.) The 3-D seemed to go out of sync on a regular basis. I asked the manager about it and she seemed to think that was intentional.

TomOpus 07-25-16 08:59 AM

Re: 3D no longer works for me
 
Basic troubleshooting means to have to eliminate possible causes until you find the one thing in common with the issue. Right now, that common factor is you. You need to figure out if it's the theater. You need to try the AMC. And you need to bring someone or talk to someone at the same showing.

As pointed out, don't go into denial about your eyesight. If there's an issue, it needs to be addressed before it gets to a point of not being able to fix it.

B5Erik 07-25-16 09:22 AM

Re: 3D no longer works for me
 
I've never bothered to try 3D - it is just a gimmick so the studios and theaters can charge more.

I'm sure with some movies it's pretty impressive, but I enjoy movies in 2D and I like saving the extra $5 per ticket.

Quatermass 07-25-16 12:27 PM

Re: 3D no longer works for me
 
Could be a tumor.

cungar 07-25-16 12:50 PM

Re: 3D no longer works for me
 
Only thing that really impressed me is specks of stuff in the environment floating in front of the screen which was all through Avatar. I haven't seen a 3D movie that had any interesting effects since then.

OldBoy 07-25-16 01:13 PM

Re: 3D no longer works for me
 

Originally Posted by cungar (Post 12858876)
Only thing that really impressed me is specks of stuff in the environment floating in front of the screen which was all through Avatar. I haven't seen a 3D movie that had any interesting effects since then.

Agreed. Avatar was the benchmark. All others since have been relatively flat for me, especially the latest Trek. I do enjoy it, very much on my home setup though...

Me007gold 07-25-16 01:23 PM

Re: 3D no longer works for me
 
3D has never worked for me. That's one of the downsides of basically having 0 vision in one eye.

Trevor 07-25-16 02:04 PM

Re: 3D no longer works for me
 
I watch a fair amount of 3D at home. It rarely wows me, but I find that even the slight bit of 3D helps immerse me in the film.

Really enjoyed John Carter last night for example, even though I don't think we even once said "wow" at a 3D effect. It's just a slight, but noticeable, improvement in most 3D films in my experience.

kefrank 07-25-16 02:07 PM

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3D has never worked for me. To be clear, I can see the intended effect just fine and it doesn't give me headaches. I just find it ultimately distracts from and degrades, rather than enhances, my viewing experience.

Jon2 07-25-16 03:45 PM

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The last thing I saw was Ghostbusters and the 3D was fine... the rest of the movie not so much. The first full-on apparition scene made everyone jump... and was about the only really funny thing in the movie. :yack: Saw Ghostbusters only because my son wanted to and he paid the price difference. My wife isn't interested in 3D... mostly because of the increased price, but the genre subject matter of most 3D movies doesn't appeal to her either.

I prefer to see movies in 3D, if the subject is something I'm interested in. Which is Pixar, Disney, Dreamworks, etc., and SF/comic genres. Everyday, mundane non-genre films (which don't get 3D treatment anyway) just bore me to tears/irritate the crap out of me, so 3D would do nothing... except probably make them even more boring/irritating.

Haven't noticed any issue with any 3D I've seen. I don't notice the "dimmer" image quality that bothers some people. Guess most of the theaters I go to are sufficiently dark to make it a non-issue.

If I suddenly started having issues with 1) the picture going in and out of focus and 2) headaches while/after seeing a 3D flick, I'd see my doctor ASAP... especially if others seeing a 3D movie with you don't notice the imagine going blurry. If they are, then it probably is a projection problem. Otherwise, projection should not be a problem... at least not like it could have been before digital.

Mabuse 07-25-16 07:02 PM

Re: 3D no longer works for me
 
Firstly, what was the last 3D movie actually shot in 3D? Everything is a post-convert now.

Secondly, I just saw the new National Park IMAX movie last weekend. Actually filmed on 15perf 70mm film and actually projected using real fucking film. Now THAT shit worked? Wow. So clear and so stable. We are going backwards. Movies are so small and look so shitty these days.

Orbi-Wan Techno 07-25-16 08:05 PM

Re: 3D no longer works for me
 
My adult son has an condition that prevents him from seeng the current types of 3D without pain. My wife can't watch 3D, so we just don't see anything in 3D as a family. I will watch certain movies, though.

Eric F 07-25-16 10:46 PM

Re: 3D no longer works for me
 

Originally Posted by Quatermass (Post 12858859)
Could be a tumor.

That must be it. WebMD always tells me so anyways...:lol:

No, it's not my eyesight, I have an eye exam every year. I have another coming up in a couple of months. I'll mention it but I'm sure that's not it.

Brack 07-26-16 01:08 AM

Re: 3D no longer works for me
 

Originally Posted by Mabuse (Post 12859234)
Firstly, what was the last 3D movie actually shot in 3D? Everything is a post-convert now.

http://realorfake3d.com

Not sure of the validity of the site. Was X-Men: Apocalypse really filmed using 3D cameras? Most animated movies seem like a no-brainier, since they're 3D animated already.

Why So Blu? 07-26-16 02:02 AM

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I don't care for 3-D films, because 90% of them are shitty post-conversions and the lame masses have not caught up to the studios game. Guess what? If it wasn't shot in 3-D it's going to suck. Pure and fucking simple. The last film(s) that I saw in actual 3-D were Hugo and Resident Evil: Afterlife. They looked great, because they were actually shot with 3-D cameras.

jjcool 07-26-16 11:01 AM

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I've seen several "3D" presentations both in theater and in a home setting. I have yet to see anything that makes me think it is anything beyond a useless gimmick meant to separate fools and their money.

Alan Smithee 07-26-16 11:53 AM

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Jungle Book was shot in real 3D- and apparently we'll have to import that one again on disc. Conversions CAN look good, there's been several where I've sworn they were shot in real 3D (like Piranha) but it does seem rather lazy to do that. The upcharges have just got to go though. In the 50s they didn't charge extra for 3D because they were just happy you were going to the theater at all!

astrochimp 07-26-16 02:20 PM

Re: 3D no longer works for me
 

Originally Posted by Quatermass (Post 12858859)
Could be a tumor.

http://i.memecaptain.com/gend_images/tM-SuA.jpg

Jon2 07-26-16 07:51 PM

Re: 3D no longer works for me
 

Originally Posted by Eric F (Post 12859380)
That must be it. WebMD always tells me so anyways...:lol:

No, it's not my eyesight, I have an eye exam every year. I have another coming up in a couple of months. I'll mention it but I'm sure that's not it.

If I remember correctly something I read a few years ago, the problem that some people have with 3D is not a issue with the eyes. It's neurological issue.

OldBoy 07-26-16 08:11 PM

Re: 3D no longer works for me
 

Originally Posted by jjcool (Post 12859674)
I've seen several "3D" presentations both in theater and in a home setting. I have yet to see anything that makes me think it is anything beyond a useless gimmick meant to separate fools and their money.

And yet you paid for the theater and at home, so what does that make you?

Lara Means 07-26-16 08:32 PM

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Post-converted 3D may have been a piece of shit at the beginning with Clash of the Titans, but the technology has been perfected.

Do some movies have terrible 3D and great 3D? Of course! Its no different with the quality of visual effects in movies. Some are good, some suck. 3D is a tool not a gimmick when used correctly. Life of Pi, Hugo, Gravity, Guardians of the Galaxy , Ant-Man, and Ghostbusters are just a few examples of studios and directors who really knocked it out of the park.

Your opinion is worthless if you just enjoy shitting on 3D yet don't actually go watch them in a optimal presentation theater.

jjcool 07-27-16 07:04 AM

Re: 3D no longer works for me
 

Originally Posted by OldBoy (Post 12860101)
And yet you paid for the theater and at home, so what does that make you?

Nice try. Where in my post did I say I threw my money away on the useless gimmick?
We get it. You have a hardon for 3d. Most likely because you need to justify the extra expense for the hardware and the software on what is essentially a fad gimmick. It's ok.

Eric F 07-27-16 09:20 AM

Re: 3D no longer works for me
 

Originally Posted by Jon2 (Post 12860087)
If I remember correctly something I read a few years ago, the problem that some people have with 3D is not a issue with the eyes. It's neurological issue.

Clearly my sciatica has something to do with it.:lol:

Trevor 07-27-16 09:29 AM

Re: 3D no longer works for me
 

Originally Posted by jjcool (Post 12860267)
Nice try. Where in my post did I say I threw my money away on the useless gimmick?
We get it. You have a hardon for 3d. Most likely because you need to justify the extra expense for the hardware and the software on what is essentially a fad gimmick. It's ok.

No need to be uncool. That you bought 3D tickets and own a 3D setup is a natural assumption from a quick read of your post.

And 3D is no more a gimmick than HD or color are gimmicks. All are just enhancements to video entertainment. We each decide what each possible upgrade is worth to us. No reason to belittle people that appreciate different things than you.

jjcool 07-27-16 11:42 AM

Re: 3D no longer works for me
 

Originally Posted by Trevor (Post 12860348)
No need to be uncool. That you bought 3D tickets and own a 3D setup is a natural assumption from a quick read of your post.

And 3D is no more a gimmick than HD or color are gimmicks. All are just enhancements to video entertainment. We each decide what each possible upgrade is worth to us. No reason to belittle people that appreciate different things than you.

Simply responded in kind to the trollish post of a user that thinks it is his personal responsibility to reply to every single post I make on certain topics. His time would be better spend learning how to use the search function or Google.
I do not agree that me saying that I have seen 3d films leads someone to the natural assumption that I have bought a home 3d setup. Surely I could see a 3d film without buying a 3d setup, right?

As to it being a gimmick, it most definitely is. When it becomes as widespread as HD, or color in film is, then we can talk about it being more than a gimmick. In fact, at what point do HD and color stop being "enhancements" and start being the norm? Arent the vast majority of releases now in HD and/or color? It is definitely a vastly higher number than the releases in 3d, thats for sure.

TomOpus 07-27-16 11:55 AM

Re: 3D no longer works for me
 
Jesus...

Numanoid 08-18-16 03:07 AM

Re: 3D no longer works for me
 

Originally Posted by Why So Blu? (Post 12859439)
I don't care for 3-D films, because 90% of them are shitty post-conversions and the lame masses have not caught up to the studios game. Guess what? If it wasn't shot in 3-D it's going to suck. Pure and fucking simple. The last film(s) that I saw in actual 3-D were Hugo and Resident Evil: Afterlife. They looked great, because they were actually shot with 3-D cameras.

Mad Max: Fury Road. Post-converted. Amazing in 3D.

clckworang 08-18-16 03:25 PM

Re: 3D no longer works for me
 
I still enjoy watching films in 3D. My problem, especially when viewing at home, is not seeing any pop-out effects. I don't need things to pop out to enjoy the 3D experience, but I'll see people post about seeing things popping out of their TV by several feet. I don't get that same experience. In fact, it's rare that I can perceive something coming out of my screen. It's typically just depth.

Jon2 08-18-16 04:36 PM

Re: 3D no longer works for me
 

Originally Posted by clckworang (Post 12877547)
I still enjoy watching films in 3D. My problem, especially when viewing at home, is not seeing any pop-out effects. I don't need things to pop out to enjoy the 3D experience, but I'll see people post about seeing things popping out of their TV by several feet. I don't get that same experience. In fact, it's rare that I can perceive something coming out of my screen. It's typically just depth.

You probably need to adjust your TV's 3D settings. Have a 72" Sony and do it for almost every 3D movie I watch. No particular setting seems to be the best for all 3D movies.

But maybe it's just me.

The Bus 08-19-16 05:59 AM

Re: 3D no longer works for me
 

Originally Posted by Numanoid (Post 12877082)
Mad Max: Fury Road. Post-converted. Amazing in 3D.

This was probably the last good 3D movie I saw.


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