Hell or High Water -- D: Mackenzie S: Foster, Pine, Bridges -- 2016
#51
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Hell or High Water -- D: Mackenzie S: Foster, Pine, Bridges -- 2016
Isn't this coming to Amazon Prime or Netflix this week?
Also Katy Mixon is the most annoying actress I've seen in years.
Also Katy Mixon is the most annoying actress I've seen in years.
#53
Re: Hell or High Water -- D: Mackenzie S: Foster, Pine, Bridges -- 2016
I didn't love this as much as everyone else. But that last scene was beyond perfect. The best line-exchanging since Pacino & Deniro in Heat, imo.
#54
Re: Hell or High Water -- D: Mackenzie S: Foster, Pine, Bridges -- 2016
I don't think Jeff Bridges, while good, deserves as much praise as he's getting. I thought Chris Pine and Ben Foster were far more effective as the two brothers.
#55
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Hell or High Water -- D: Mackenzie S: Foster, Pine, Bridges -- 2016
I'm sorry it took me so long to watch this, excellent movie from the story, to the score (Not surprising when I learned Nick Cave was involved), to the aesthetics of the camera work. Best film I've seen this year.
#56
RIP
Re: Hell or High Water -- D: Mackenzie S: Foster, Pine, Bridges -- 2016
#58
DVD Talk Gold Edition
Re: Hell or High Water -- D: Mackenzie S: Foster, Pine, Bridges -- 2016
I am about an hour into this and I am really struggling to finish. Not getting the praise for this at all. Pine and Foster are decent although Foster is playing pretty much the same variation of almost every role he takes but Bridges is once again doing the same marble mouth drawl he likes to do for some unknown reason just like in RIPD which is the extreme version but this is similar in my opinion. He doesn't talk like that normally or all the time so it bugs that he chooses to do it in so many roles. Takes me right out of any movie when he affects that voice and vocal cadence.
I am hoping the last 40 minutes pick up but so far this movie does not deserve the kudos I have heard about it. If not then it just wasn't for me I guess.
I am hoping the last 40 minutes pick up but so far this movie does not deserve the kudos I have heard about it. If not then it just wasn't for me I guess.
#59
DVD Talk Hero
Re: Hell or High Water -- D: Mackenzie S: Foster, Pine, Bridges -- 2016
Hey, if you're an hour into it and the movie isn't working for you, give it up. Life's too short to watch movies that bore you.
#60
DVD Talk Gold Edition
Re: Hell or High Water -- D: Mackenzie S: Foster, Pine, Bridges -- 2016
I hear ya but I tend to want to finish things if possible. Otherwise it will nag at me and I will end up eventually watching it anyway. I don't hate it, but it isn't blowing me away like it has others and while it is a struggle to finish, it isn't unbearable, just not something I would have normally watched. I only decided to watch based on the praise in this thread.
#61
DVD Talk Gold Edition
Re: Hell or High Water -- D: Mackenzie S: Foster, Pine, Bridges -- 2016
I didn't think it was a struggle to finish, but I do struggle to understand all the praise it's getting. It just seems way overhyped to me and I'm wondering if it's because Jeff Bridges is in it? No Country for Old Men was much, much better.
#63
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Hell or High Water -- D: Mackenzie S: Foster, Pine, Bridges -- 2016
I did like Bridges and his partner and their interaction. And Foster was good. I often find him annoyingly over-the-top, but I thought he was about the right amount of crazy in this.
As a Texan, I immediately thought "this looks like it was filmed in New Mexico." Looked it up and confirmed. Oh, well. (and, yes, parts of No Country were filmed in NM as well, but it's not as obvious)
#64
Moderator
Re: Hell or High Water -- D: Mackenzie S: Foster, Pine, Bridges -- 2016
A variety section piece from the LA Times appeared in our local paper this weekend about how Hell or High Water fits in a sort of blue collar, working class film sub-genre about the American Dream meets/vs. the American Reality. Interesting read, putting it's subject matter/mood alongside On the Waterfront and Winter's Bone (the latter of which I haven't seen). I thought this quote was particularly striking, wondering anyone here thinks he's on to something:
[Out of the Furnace director Scott Cooper] believes the suspicion and disillusionment in the Rust Belt, Appalachia and other regions "come from an ideological and cultural isolation from the rest of America. These are groups of people who see themselves as outsiders, but they were really the backbone of America, especially in the 1940s, 50s, and 60s. But lost jobs have led to lost pride and vices. ...The American dream is dead, and it is not really coming back."
#65
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Hell or High Water -- D: Mackenzie S: Foster, Pine, Bridges -- 2016
I think there's a trend these days for anything that isn't completely derivative or a remake to get high praise simply because we're so starved for good content.
#66
DVD Talk Hero
Re: Hell or High Water -- D: Mackenzie S: Foster, Pine, Bridges -- 2016
A variety section piece from the LA Times appeared in our local paper this weekend about how Hell or High Water fits in a sort of blue collar, working class film sub-genre about the American Dream meets/vs. the American Reality. Interesting read, putting it's subject matter/mood alongside On the Waterfront and Winter's Bone (the latter of which I haven't seen). I thought this quote was particularly striking, wondering anyone here thinks he's on to something:
#67
Moderator
Re: Hell or High Water -- D: Mackenzie S: Foster, Pine, Bridges -- 2016
I'd forgotten about Southern Gothic as a genre. You may be right.
#68
DVD Talk Hero
Re: Hell or High Water -- D: Mackenzie S: Foster, Pine, Bridges -- 2016
^ It's a genre that seems to be making a comeback of sorts in recent years. Jeff Nichols and David Gordon Greene have made several Southern Gothic films that have mostly been met with praise. I'd place Hell or High Water squarely in that same sub-genre. Although I'd compare Hell or High Water with No Country for Old Men, I'm not sure I've heard of NCfOM described as Southern Gothic by anyone so it's possible there's a sub-sub-genre I'm missing.
I've been meaning to see Out of the Furnace for awhile now and just haven't gotten around to it yet.
It's actually a type of movie I really enjoy assuming it doesn't get too bleak. Winter's Bone felt a bit too bleak for me.
I've been meaning to see Out of the Furnace for awhile now and just haven't gotten around to it yet.
It's actually a type of movie I really enjoy assuming it doesn't get too bleak. Winter's Bone felt a bit too bleak for me.
#69
DVD Talk Ultimate Edition
Re: Hell or High Water -- D: Mackenzie S: Foster, Pine, Bridges -- 2016
Finally got around watching this film last night, tt was really good. Though it was never boring, the the second half is where things pick up more. Love all the characters and Ben Foster was great, he was not playing the same psycho as in 3:10 to Yuma this guy had a completely different vibe.
Something i loved about this film is the Texas aesthetic. It looked like a completely different country with its own set of rules and it felt so real. And i see people commenting on the women too, I loved them all too, they felt and looked like real people
The final exchange between Pines and Bridges was great and a very satisfying conclusion. All in all a very plausible story without feeling like a fake Hollywood take on a heist.
PS: If we going to compare, "No Country for Old Men" is probably still the better film, but i think each film has different objectives, so its a bit unfair to compare them
Something i loved about this film is the Texas aesthetic. It looked like a completely different country with its own set of rules and it felt so real. And i see people commenting on the women too, I loved them all too, they felt and looked like real people
The final exchange between Pines and Bridges was great and a very satisfying conclusion. All in all a very plausible story without feeling like a fake Hollywood take on a heist.
PS: If we going to compare, "No Country for Old Men" is probably still the better film, but i think each film has different objectives, so its a bit unfair to compare them
#70
DVD Talk Limited Edition
Re: Hell or High Water -- D: Mackenzie S: Foster, Pine, Bridges -- 2016
Finally got to see this today. Recorded from Shotime. That final exchange was fantastic.
#71
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Hell or High Water -- D: Mackenzie S: Foster, Pine, Bridges -- 2016
Solid movie by the way.