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Sub-Zero 05-11-16 06:45 PM

Sequels that are also a semi-reboot?
 
What sequels are also a semi-reboot?

DJariya 05-11-16 06:55 PM

Re: Sequels that are also a semi-reboot?
 
Star Trek (2009)

It's a "sequel" in that it Leonard Nimoy makes an appearance, but also a reboot since it had a mostly new cast.

Sub-Zero 05-11-16 07:05 PM

Re: Sequels that are also a semi-reboot?
 

Originally Posted by DJariya (Post 12799432)
Star Trek (2009)

It's a "sequel" in that it Leonard Nimoy makes an appearance, but also a reboot since it had a mostly new cast.

Thanks for the reply, and I had forgotten about Star Trek.

Also, I just remembered:

Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides

Transformers: Age of Extinction

movieguru 05-11-16 07:17 PM

Re: Sequels that are also a semi-reboot?
 
On Her Majestry's Secret Service
Live & Let Die
The Living Daylights
Golden Eye
Casino Royal

The Incredible Hulk

Superman Returns

Guru Askew 05-11-16 07:21 PM

Re: Sequels that are also a semi-reboot?
 

Originally Posted by movieguru (Post 12799442)
On Her Majestry's Secret Service
Live & Let Die
The Living Daylights
Golden Eye
Casino Royal

Have you ever seen these movies?

Live and Let Die and The Living Daylights especially are about as similar to their predecessors as it gets. OHMSS seems more like a one-off due to its one-off director than it does for having a one-off Bond, and EON essentially did a de-boot by hiring the director of the best Bond movie to do the 3 subsequent ones.

Ash Ketchum 05-11-16 07:28 PM

Re: Sequels that are also a semi-reboot?
 
THE BLACK BIRD (1975) - 34-years later sequel to THE MALTESE FALCON. Two of the original cast are in it.

INTERNATIONAL VELVET (1978) - 34-years later sequel to NATIONAL VELVET. None of the original cast are in it, although they could have gotten Liz Taylor and Mickey Rooney easily enough.

TARZAN'S MAGIC FOUNTAIN (1949) - first Tarzan movie with Lex Barker following the Johnny Weissmuller series, yet Brenda Joyce continues as Jane, a role she'd played in the last four Weissmuller Tarzans.

ANGELS WITH DIRTY FACES (1938) - sort-of sequel/reboot of DEAD END and the beginning of Warners' Dead End Kids series. And then the first East Side Kids movie (BOYS OF THE CITY) and the first Bowery Boys movie (LIVE WIRES) might qualify also, more reboots although part of the whole continuity that began with DEAD END and ended in 1957 with IN THE MONEY, the last Bowery Boys movie and with Huntz Hall, the only original DEAD END cast member to stick with it to the bitter end.

HN 05-11-16 07:30 PM

Re: Sequels that are also a semi-reboot?
 
Jurassic World
Mad Max: fury road

Hailey G 05-11-16 07:31 PM

Re: Sequels that are also a semi-reboot?
 

Originally Posted by movieguru (Post 12799442)

The Incredible Hulk

The Incredible Hulk is a reboot that seems like a semi-sequel only because it picks up in South America.

HN 05-11-16 07:37 PM

Re: Sequels that are also a semi-reboot?
 
Creed
Deadpool

movieguru 05-11-16 07:46 PM

Re: Sequels that are also a semi-reboot?
 

Originally Posted by Guru Askew (Post 12799448)
Have you ever seen these movies?

Live and Let Die and The Living Daylights especially are about as similar to their predecessors as it gets. OHMSS seems more like a one-off due to its one-off director than it does for having a one-off Bond, and EON essentially did a de-boot by hiring the director of the best Bond movie to do the 3 subsequent ones.

but they're all semi-reboots and sequels per the op's question.

Guru Askew 05-11-16 07:53 PM

Re: Sequels that are also a semi-reboot?
 

Originally Posted by movieguru (Post 12799469)
but they're all semi-reboots and sequels per the op's question.

Based on what? I mean, obviously it's just a list of the first Bond movie for each actor. If anything the series is known for maintaining traditions from film to film and trying to reassure audiences that the movies aren't reboots. There are entire scenes devoted to it in OHMSS and DAD.

Casino Royale aside, your list would fit perfectly in a thread about movie series where a main role was recast with no rebooting going on whatsoever.

Groucho 05-11-16 07:58 PM

Re: Sequels that are also a semi-reboot?
 
Shaft (2000)

DJariya 05-11-16 08:02 PM

Re: Sequels that are also a semi-reboot?
 

Originally Posted by Groucho (Post 12799483)
Shaft (2000)

Good one. Roundtree had a cameo as the original John Shaft. Sam Jackson played his nephew.

rennervision 05-11-16 08:08 PM

Re: Sequels that are also a semi-reboot?
 
The one obvious Bond sequel wasn't even mentioned. For Your Eyes Only was an attempt to return the Bond films to a more realistic spy series after the fantastical sci-fi Moonraker.

movieguru 05-11-16 08:31 PM

Re: Sequels that are also a semi-reboot?
 

Originally Posted by Guru Askew (Post 12799477)
Based on what? I mean, obviously it's just a list of the first Bond movie for each actor. If anything the series is known for maintaining traditions from film to film and trying to reassure audiences that the movies aren't reboots. There are entire scenes devoted to it in OHMSS and DAD.

Casino Royale aside, your list would fit perfectly in a thread about movie series where a main role was recast with no rebooting going on whatsoever.

Unless James Bond doesn't age, then each actor is playing a slightly different version of Bond. Occasionally they make references to something that happened in a previous movie played by another actor, but the james bond in the first movie can't be the same Bond played by Bronsan in his movie as they're 30+ years apart.

majorjoe23 05-11-16 08:38 PM

Re: Sequels that are also a semi-reboot?
 
X-Men: Days of Future Past.

Guru Askew 05-11-16 08:50 PM

Re: Sequels that are also a semi-reboot?
 

Originally Posted by movieguru (Post 12799509)
Unless James Bond doesn't age, then each actor is playing a slightly different version of Bond. Occasionally they make references to something that happened in a previous movie played by another actor, but the james bond in the first movie can't be the same Bond played by Bronsan in his movie as they're 30+ years apart.

Bond did age for 23 years. So did Moneypenny and Q and M. And then when they recast a substantially younger Bond they didn't even refer to the fact and made Bond one of many characters throughout the history of fiction that don't age in real time. The Living Daylights also has the Gogol and Keane characters that were otherwise exclusively used in the Moore films and that's on top of the obvious fact that it also had the same Q and M. How any of this pertains to reboots is beyond me.

I'll give you this though: had this thread been a trivia contest about the first Bond film starring each EON Bond actor you woulda passed with flying colors.

Michael Corvin 05-11-16 09:15 PM

Re: Sequels that are also a semi-reboot?
 
I know, I know! Pick me, pick me!

Ghostbusters!

stingermck 05-12-16 07:59 AM

Re: Sequels that are also a semi-reboot?
 
GI Joe Retaliation

d2cheer 05-12-16 11:45 AM

Re: Sequels that are also a semi-reboot?
 
Escape from L.A.

Bluelitespecial 05-12-16 11:47 AM

Re: Sequels that are also a semi-reboot?
 
I fully expect the new TMNT movie to fit this description.

BrewCrew 05-12-16 12:00 PM

Re: Sequels that are also a semi-reboot?
 
Return to Oz, Vacation.

Quatermass 05-12-16 12:16 PM

Re: Sequels that are also a semi-reboot?
 
Evil Dead II

nando820 05-12-16 12:22 PM

Re: Sequels that are also a semi-reboot?
 
Star Wars - The Force Awakens ?

Groucho 05-12-16 02:48 PM

Re: Sequels that are also a semi-reboot?
 
A Shot in the Dark


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