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AaronHernandez 01-27-16 09:49 AM

Re: If the Oscars had a do-over?
 

Originally Posted by JeffTheAlpaca (Post 12706805)

Back to the Future might be a fun silly popcorn movie and is not one of those movies you think about during awards season but if Chicago and Shakespeare in Love can win best pictures why not Back to the Future?

Back To The Future 1 has aged poorly whereas 2 and 3 are as good if not better then the day they came out.

AaronHernandez 01-27-16 09:52 AM

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[QUOTE=j Frances Ha was also quite good, although probably not BP-worthy.
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Not BP-worthy?

:sad: Cause it was set in present time

jfoobar 01-27-16 11:05 AM

Re: If the Oscars had a do-over?
 

Originally Posted by AaronHernandez (Post 12708141)
Not BP-worthy?

:sad: Cause it was set in present time

Go back and look at my post and count the number of films set in the present time I said should have won, been nominated or are my personal favorites. It is quite obviously not something I consider to be relevant in determining a film's worth.

Frances Ha was not substantial enough to warrant a nomination, IMHO. I know "substantial" is a nebulous and slippery term, but there it is. I do think Gerwig would have been quite deserving of an acting nomination, though. She did get a GG nomination, at least.

hasslein 01-27-16 03:17 PM

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I never liked Silence of the Lambs either, I thought JFK should have won that year.

inri222 01-27-16 03:22 PM

Re: If the Oscars had a do-over?
 

Originally Posted by hasslein (Post 12708521)
I never liked Silence of the Lambs either, I thought JFK should have won that year.

I like Silence of the Lambs, but I agree about JFK which IMO is Oliver Stone's best film.

JeffTheAlpaca 01-28-16 03:51 AM

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i once said that and some member in here dug in and defended Out of Africa against all reason. Wish you were here then.
LOL I missed that


Back To The Future 1 has aged poorly whereas 2 and 3 are as good if not better then the day they came out.
Really? I thought the first was the best and timeless.

Part 2 is great though most of the stuff set in the future did not happen and maybe that has aged poorly?

I did not care that much about Part 3.

Brack 01-28-16 04:25 AM

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Yeah, BTTF hasn't aged a bit. It's still as fun as when it came out. One of my favorite films that I can watch anytime and still get that sense of joy that you feel only so often with a film like that.

Nick Danger 01-28-16 05:41 AM

Re: If the Oscars had a do-over?
 

Originally Posted by hasslein (Post 12705797)
A few from my list, some not even nominated

1960 Magnificent Seven over The Apartment

Got to disagree with you on that one. The Magnificent Seven was just another dumbed-down remake of an excellent foreign movie. The Apartment was excellent itself.

hasslein 01-28-16 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Nick Danger (Post 12708954)
Got to disagree with you on that one. The Magnificent Seven was just another dumbed-down remake of an excellent foreign movie. The Apartment was excellent itself.

The Apartment is one of my least favorite best pictures. Its not funny, or even remotely interesting, IMHO... The Magnificent Seven is a blast... great cast, beautifully shot, and one of the greatest scores ever!

hasslein 01-28-16 03:29 PM

Re: If the Oscars had a do-over?
 

Originally Posted by EddieMoney (Post 12706939)
The Right Stuff should have won over Terms of Endearment.

I really don't like Terms of Endearment, it is my least favorite best picture, but I was really disappointed when I saw The Right Stuff (it is much better than Terms though, IMHO) ... A Christmas Story isn't really best picture material, but it was my favorite film that year, which was pretty weak...

inri222 01-29-16 09:30 AM

Re: If the Oscars had a do-over?
 

Originally Posted by EddieMoney (Post 12708044)
My choices for same time frame, but including films not nominated.

2007: The Assassination of Jesse James By the Coward Robert Ford

I love that film but that is one tough year for me to pick just one. Might have to be a 6 way tie.

No Country for Old Men
There Will Be Blood
Zodiac
Eastern Promises
Before the Devil Knows You’re Dead
The Assassination of Jesse James By the Coward Robert Ford

EddieMoney 01-29-16 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by inri222 (Post 12709959)
I love that film but that is one tough year for me to pick just one. Might have to be a 6 way tie.

No Country for Old Men
There Will Be Blood
Zodiac
Eastern Promises
Before the Devil Knows You’re Dead
The Assassination of Jesse James By the Coward Robert Ford

No argument here! All are excellent.

EddieMoney 01-29-16 09:47 AM

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Jodie Foster winning for "The Accused." Very average performance in a barely average film.

jfoobar 01-29-16 01:48 PM

Re: If the Oscars had a do-over?
 

Originally Posted by EddieMoney (Post 12709977)
Jodie Foster winning for "The Accused." Very average performance in a barely average film.

I would gauge her performance as above average but agree about the film on the whole. It was also an extremely "brave" performance, which is largely why she won. I would have given it to Sigourney that year I think, although admittedly it has been so long I barely remember A Cry In the Dark.

AaronHernandez 01-30-16 05:40 AM

Re: If the Oscars had a do-over?
 

Originally Posted by hasslein (Post 12709406)
I really don't like Terms of Endearment, it is my least favorite best picture, but I was really disappointed when I saw The Right Stuff (it is much better than Terms though, IMHO) ... A Christmas Story isn't really best picture material, but it was my favorite film that year, which was pretty weak...

1983 was indeed one of the weakest years for BP Nominee's but that year also gave us Rumble Fish,Lianna,Local Hero and Careful He Might Hear You. And for Non English Language Films certified classics like El Norte,El Sur and Danton. In retrospect the lackluster fare rewarded that year is even more stunning because Careful He Might Hear You and Rumble Fish are the kind of period films usually in Oscars wheelhouse.

johnnysd 01-30-16 08:56 AM

Re: If the Oscars had a do-over?
 

Originally Posted by hasslein (Post 12708521)
I never liked Silence of the Lambs either, I thought JFK should have won that year.

Really? I thin SOTL is a truly great film. Plus it has had tremendous influence on movies in general. I think it is very clearly the best film of that year. And JFK is nothing compared to Platoon.

inri222 01-30-16 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by johnnysd (Post 12710803)
And JFK is nothing compared to Platoon.

Gotta disagree with that one. The only thing that prevents JFK from being a perfect masterpiece is Kevin Costner's shaky accent. Besides that, the film is flawless in every aspect. I like Platoon but I find certain parts of it to be a bit heavy handed. All my opinion of course.

Norm de Plume 01-30-16 10:13 AM

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Another vote here for S.o.t.L. being massively overrated. If only they had silenced that dreadful ham Hopkins.

Nick Danger 01-30-16 08:03 PM

Re: If the Oscars had a do-over?
 

Originally Posted by inri222 (Post 12710810)
Gotta disagree with that one. The only thing that prevents JFK from being a perfect masterpiece is Kevin Costner's shaky accent. Besides that, the film is flawless in every aspect. I like Platoon but I find certain parts of it to be a bit heavy handed. All my opinion of course.

I thought JFK was enjoyable until the last act when Basil Exposition talked for about ten minutes in front of the Lincoln Memorial. That was like watching the Ed Wood film The Violent Years. I never watched JFK again.

Falc04 02-02-16 10:55 AM

Re: If the Oscars had a do-over?
 

Originally Posted by hasslein (Post 12709397)
The Apartment is one of my least favorite best pictures. Its not funny, or even remotely interesting, IMHO... The Magnificent Seven is a blast... great cast, beautifully shot, and one of the greatest scores ever!

The Apartment was awful...shouldn't have even been a blip on the best picture radar. The Alamo would have won the 1960's best picture, going away. But that idiot Chill Wills and his over-the-top campaigning for best supporting actor ruined any chance Duke Wayne had with his film. Most members of the academy went out of their way to not vote for The Alamo, based on Chill's tasteless campaign.

inri222 02-02-16 11:01 AM

Re: If the Oscars had a do-over?
 

Originally Posted by hasslein (Post 12705797)
1960 Psycho over The Apartment

Fixed

hasslein 02-02-16 12:54 PM

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Broken. ^I'd pick Mag 7 over Psycho.

EddieMoney 02-02-16 01:11 PM

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Cinderfella

Mabuse 02-02-16 01:27 PM

Re: If the Oscars had a do-over?
 

Originally Posted by Falc04 (Post 12713055)
The Alamo would have won the 1960's best picture, going away. But that idiot Chill Wills and his over-the-top campaigning for best supporting actor ruined any chance Duke Wayne had with his film. Most members of the academy went out of their way to not vote for The Alamo, based on Chill's tasteless campaign.

Fill me in on this story. I've never heard it.

jfoobar 02-02-16 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Norm de Plume (Post 12710832)
Another vote here for S.o.t.L. being massively overrated. If only they had silenced that dreadful ham Hopkins.

I was and still of the opinion that Brian Cox (Manhunter) played a far more sinister and effective Lector than Hopkins did. I also think that the set design of the Lector cell area in SotL was a little overdone.


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