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#1176
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Re: Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Abrams, 2015) — The Reviews Thread
Though nothing is worse than Marty McFly's hair in the BttF sequels. It was too long compared to the original.
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He would have no need to stop at Supercuts. His hair was shorter at the end of BttF compared to the beginning of Part II. Really bad continuity error if you ask me.
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Agree on Chewbacca. I forgot how much I loved that character. I thought he was used brilliantly throughout.
Amazing that George's dog helped inspire both the "great Chewbacca" and Indiana Jones.
Amazing that George's dog helped inspire both the "great Chewbacca" and Indiana Jones.
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Seriously... not enough can be said for Chewie. That was the greatest bit of development for anyone. Not saying Rey and Finn weren't great cuz they were but we've had Chewie for 4 films (3 w/ actual character value and development value to a point). Just to see him react that way w/ losing Han was amazing. He fucking snapped. And he was taking everyone that he could down. Han's boy or not, Chewie wanted to kill Ren.
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Re: Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Abrams, 2015) — The Reviews Thread
The New York Times weighs in today with a piece on Lucas' criticism of the new film:
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/31/mo...ef=todayspaper
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/31/mo...ef=todayspaper
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I don't understand George's angle. And he mentions that he didn't think his "experimental" films could sustain the company, but then states he was getting ready to do the sequel trilogy himself and had the stories ready. He isn't making sense. It's sad.
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The retro comment is similarly baffling. The whole idea behind both Star Wars and Indiana Jones was that they were retro, intended to harken back to the serials of his youth.
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Seriously... not enough can be said for Chewie. That was the greatest bit of development for anyone. Not saying Rey and Finn weren't great cuz they were but we've had Chewie for 4 films (3 w/ actual character value and development value to a point). Just to see him react that way w/ losing Han was amazing. He fucking snapped. And he was taking everyone that he could down. Han's boy or not, Chewie wanted to kill Ren.
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Seriously... not enough can be said for Chewie. That was the greatest bit of development for anyone. Not saying Rey and Finn weren't great cuz they were but we've had Chewie for 4 films (3 w/ actual character value and development value to a point). Just to see him react that way w/ losing Han was amazing. He fucking snapped. And he was taking everyone that he could down. Han's boy or not, Chewie wanted to kill Ren.
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Re: Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Abrams, 2015) — The Reviews Thread
Also, the car, windows and plants behind them are different. And Jennifer changed into a completely different person!
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I though they messed this up at the end. When they returned to base did anyone else notice how Chewbacca and Leia just walked right by each other like nothing happened? Not even a sad soulful gaze between the two or a hug with Chewy howling at the sky but Leia goes on the hug it out with someone she just met?
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That takes me out of the movie every time. Granted, most of the audience is too invested in Rey's journey to notice. The scene provides some emotional closure for her character... but looking at it from Leia's perspective, it doesn't make a lick of sense. Han was the love of her life and Chewie was his closest ally for 40+ years. Forget eye contact, they just walks past each other like complete strangers. What the hell?
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(1) look for partners/money to make experiments/sequels;
(2) Disney make "offer he can't refuse" to outright buy everything rather than partner;
(3) he agrees to sell;
(3.5, 4) they agree he'll consult and he turns over existing/puts down on paper ideas for the sequels;
(5) Disney read and politely reject them but casually still invite him to stay on as consultant;
(6) he EITHER reads between the lines OR acts aggrieved (perhaps rightly, or perhaps completely over-reacts) and decides/feels he's been requested to step aside completely.
And then (7) he realises he completely regrets taking the offer.
Which, if there were a theoretical caveat, an assumption or a misleading pseudo-promise that the buyout was broadly to make the films he'd thought to make... is not an unlikely regret. That's kind of the point of "offers too good to refuse" - the offer is too buy something the seller doesn't want to sell, but feels obligated to (often for a number of ancillary reasons).
[Actually, I'm reminded of Alan Moore - Watchmen, ABC/WildStorm and TLoEG/LXG/films.]
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I'm not saying this to be flippant, but if he had his own ideas for sequels, why sell the whole franchise? I don't mean that to be an ass, it just seems like the whole MO makes no sense.
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Re: Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Abrams, 2015) — The Reviews Thread
He's saying thag the whole shebang is rooted in early ideas, but that once it's rooted once it should grow in its own way. Indiana Jones and Kingdom of Aliens actually did that side of things reasonably well. It took the character and broad ideas and then made up its own novel story. It was just badly, badly misjudged and executed. (The execution here is (very) good - it's the being hamstrung by nostalgia mining and, judgement and novelty that he - and some viewers - are confused/saddened/disappointed/annoyed by.)
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I presume either Lucas approached Disney or Disney approached Lucas (or Lucas approached Fox and Fox said 'no' first), over financing or distribution, and such talks evolved into an outright offer.
There may even be a Marvel angle - if we know that Marvel were unhappy to lose the SW licence to Dark Horse, and we know someone at Disney liked Marvel enough for Disney to buy it... maybe we can assume that someone at Marvel, or Disney or both was also looking for a way to get that licence back, and it escalated into buying out Lucas..? (DC - allegedly - bought WildStorm for Jim Lee and Alan Moore... so there's a ppssible angle there.)
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