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Damfino 08-20-15 06:07 PM

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Answers sent!

Crocker Jarmen 08-20-15 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by brainee (Post 12566749)
Crocker, I don't know if you ever saw the spreadsheet I put together for scoring these. I'm pretty sure it's still up at Google docs. I made it so that for each question you enter in each player's score, push a button, and have the current standings spit out in a little table.

That would be handy. Where can I find it?

brainee 08-20-15 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Crocker Jarmen (Post 12566914)
That would be handy. Where can I find it?

It's on Google docs: right here.

It was made in Excel 2007 and you need to enable macros for it to work.

ivelostr2 08-21-15 08:29 AM

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My counselor showered with me at camp answers submitted.

davidh777 08-21-15 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by brainee (Post 12566749)
Very nice! If no one responded to this I was going to pretty much write off putting together another one myself. At least 20 is a good number.

20+ is an excellent number these days. My specialty games usually peak around a dozen.


Originally Posted by brainee (Post 12566749)
I think there's some pretty big variation in how Sheepmasters do things. Some like to bang it out quickly ... other spread it out over several days. You can go all-out with putting together the results presentation. Or you can just go: question, answers, current standings, next question (and so on).

This is true, though there are so few games these days you really can do whatever you want. I usually plan on three days for a 20-question game. If I run a game again, it'll probably be more in the 10- to 12-question range to make it more manageable.


Originally Posted by brainee (Post 12566749)
Crocker, I don't know if you ever saw the spreadsheet I put together for scoring these. I'm pretty sure it's still up at Google docs. I made it so that for each question you enter in each player's score, push a button, and have the current standings spit out in a little table.

I highly recommend the macro-enabled spreadsheet. :up:


Originally Posted by ivelostr2 (Post 12567195)
My counselor showered with me at camp answers submitted.

:wacko:

brainee 08-21-15 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ivelostr2 (Post 12567195)
my counselor showered with me at camp answers submitted.

tmi

jjcool 08-21-15 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by brainee (Post 12567657)
tmi

Indeed.

Super X 08-22-15 05:25 PM

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Insanely horrendous answers submitted.

AaronHernandez 08-22-15 10:14 PM

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answers sent

Cardsfan111 08-22-15 11:01 PM

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Sent my answers in. Hoping to avoid last place. :fc:

sleepyhead55 08-23-15 12:37 PM

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Just sent in my set of crappy answers.

Count Dooku 08-23-15 12:56 PM

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I am not sending answers, but I am looking forward to the reveals. Sheep games are always fun.

Crocker Jarmen 08-23-15 02:39 PM

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Okay, we've got 32 players, a good place to close off for entries.

Kgrogers1979
Shannon Nutt
Brainee
Rocket1312
Lord Zarak
Wishbone
Wazootyman
Fumanstan
Decker
Cnicholls44
Drexl
Sauce07
Kel-El
JJcool
Orangecrush
Ivelostr2
Obi-Wan Jabroni
Super X
AaronHernandez
Sleepyhead55
NORML54601
Damfino
A-aron
devilshalo
Cdollaz
Palaver
T-bone22
Davidh777
Dave Ninja
Bradler
Abob Teff
Cardsfan111


Before the game starts, I thought I'd throw a question out to the players I'm having difficulty deciding on:

For the purpose of question 11:
Is Star Wars Episode 1: The Phantom Menace a sequel or is it the start of a whole new series? Is a prequel the same as a sequel?

Is Out of Sight a sequel to Jackie Brown because the Micheal Keaton DEA officer appears in both?

kgrogers1979 08-23-15 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Crocker Jarmen (Post 12568683)
For the purpose of question 11, is Star Wars Episode 1: The Phantom Menace a sequel or is it the start of a whole new series? Is a prequel the same as a sequel?

I would say no. The prequel trilogy and original trilogy are all part of the same franchise, but Episode I is not actually a sequel to anything. Episodes II and III are both prequels and sequels, but Episode I is only a prequel.

Super X 08-23-15 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Crocker Jarmen (Post 12568683)
Okay, we've got 30 players, a good place to close off for entries.

Before the game starts, I thought I'd throw a question out to the players I'm having difficulty deciding on:

For the purpose of question 11:
Is Star Wars Episode 1: The Phantom Menace a sequel or is it the start of a whole new series? Is a prequel the same as a sequel?

Is Out of Sight a sequel to Jackie Brown because the Micheal Keaton DEA officer appears in both?

I would say neither are a sequel. A sequel is a continuation of the story of an earlier work. Episode 1 is not a continuation, but a visitation of events leading up to the original films. Out of Sight is a little trickier, but as Michael Keaton's character wasn't a major character in the film, I wouldn't classify it as a sequel, anymore than I would classify Ant-Man as a sequel to "Avengers: Age of Ultron" or "Captain America: The Winter Soldier" due to the presence of Falcon.

davidh777 08-23-15 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by kgrogers1979 (Post 12568705)
I would say no. The prequel trilogy and original trilogy are all part of the same franchise, but Episode I is not actually a sequel to anything. Episodes II and III are both prequels and sequels, but Episode I is only a prequel.

Agree

kgrogers1979 08-23-15 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Crocker Jarmen (Post 12568683)
Is Out of Sight a sequel to Jackie Brown because the Micheal Keaton DEA officer appears in both?

Just because the same character appears in both movies doesn't mean they are directly related. The Frighteners is not a sequel to Full Metal Jacket even though R. Lee Ermey plays a ghost version of his Full Metal Jacket character in The Frighteners.

sleepyhead55 08-23-15 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Crocker Jarmen (Post 12568683)
Okay, we've got 30 players, a good place to close off for entries.

Before the game starts, I thought I'd throw a question out to the players I'm having difficulty deciding on:

For the purpose of question 11:
Is Star Wars Episode 1: The Phantom Menace a sequel or is it the start of a whole new series? Is a prequel the same as a sequel?

Is Out of Sight a sequel to Jackie Brown because the Micheal Keaton DEA officer appears in both?

My answer would be no on both questions. On the second question, though if a major character appears in both films, I'd consider it a sequel but if it is only a minor character making an appearance, then no.

fumanstan 08-23-15 07:38 PM

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I'd actually call Episode 1 a sequel, but I seem to be in the minority. Prequel/Sequel in this case feel interchangeable to me, but I wouldn't argue against those that disagree.

Out of Sight/Jackie Brown definitely don't count.

ivelostr2 08-23-15 07:46 PM

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I agree that neither are a sequel

cdollaz 08-23-15 08:02 PM

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For movies, I think a sequel is any later installment other than the first-released movie in a series or franchise. Where it falls chronologically in the overall narrative doesn't matter.

kgrogers1979 08-23-15 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by cdollaz (Post 12568851)
For movies, I think a sequel is any later installment other than the first-released movie in a series or franchise. Where it falls chronologically in the overall narrative doesn't matter.

That argument falls apart when you consider reboots though. Franchises are deliberately rebooted to purposefully create a new movie that is NOT considered a sequel to the previous movies in the same franchise.

Cardsfan111 08-23-15 08:51 PM

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I agree with others who have said those examples aren't sequels.

ivelostr2 08-23-15 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by kgrogers1979 (Post 12568860)
That argument falls apart when you consider reboots though. Franchises are deliberately rebooted to purposefully create a new movie that is NOT considered a sequel to the previous movies in the same franchise.

I agree...However, i consider the new star trek movies sequels.

cnicholls44 08-23-15 10:42 PM

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i would say neither are sequels.

fumanstan 08-23-15 10:45 PM

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Seems easy enough to exclude full on reboots that don't have ties to the previous series in that explanation. There's been other series of movies that have entries that take place prior to the events of the first movies, and i'd consider say... Temple of Doom or more recently X-Men First Class as sequels still. But I guess it depends on how literal and picky you want to take the definition; not that Wikipedia is the end all, but it's entry makes the case too.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prequel


All "prequels" are, by definition, essentially sequels in that they "expand on a previous or preceding work."[4] The term is a 20th-century neologism that is a portmanteau of the prefix "pre-" (from Latin prae, "before") and "sequel".
For the record, the Episode 1 answer wasn't mine, so i'm not fighting for my own answer to be correct :p

ivelostr2 08-24-15 08:37 AM

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cnicholls44 08-24-15 09:05 AM

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when do you think this will start? I don't want to work today.

kgrogers1979 08-24-15 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by ivelostr2 (Post 12568926)
I agree...However, i consider the new star trek movies sequels.

True, but Abram's Star Trek was never supposed to be a full reboot. It was a "soft" reboot.

Lord Zarak 08-24-15 09:45 AM

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I would say Episode I is a sequel to Star Wars, even though it takes place before. A prequel is a form of sequel, only distinguished by chronology.

Also, I would say the first Avengers movie is not a sequel to anything despite picking up plot points from other movies.

And my response here has no bearing on the answers I provided to the sheep question.

kgrogers1979 08-24-15 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Lord Zarak (Post 12569090)
I would say Episode I is a sequel to Star Wars, even though it takes place before. A prequel is a form of sequel, only distinguished by chronology.

Also, I would say the first Avengers movie is not a sequel to anything despite picking up plot points from other movies.

That's odd because I view both Episode I and Avengers as being in the same situation.

Both are part of a large movie franchise.
Both are not the first movie in the franchise.
Both pick up plot points from earlier movies in the franchise.

So either both or them are sequels or neither of them are. It doesn't make sense for one to be a sequel but not the other.

It's like I said earlier in the thread, just because two movies are in the same franchise does not mean one is the sequel to another. The Marvel Cinematic Universe is a good example of that. Avengers is not a sequel to Iron Man, for example. Similarly Episode I is not a sequel to any other Star Wars movie. I view the original trilogy and prequel trilogy as two entirely different trilogies within the same franchise. Just like how Iron Man, Captain America, and Thor all have separate trilogies within the overall MCU franchise.

Lord Zarak 08-24-15 10:47 AM

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I think Avengers is more of a "crossover event" movie, not a direct continuation of any of the movies before (though a strong argument could be made for Captain America). I see Episode 1 as continuing a saga that already established it had three missing chapters.

devilshalo 08-24-15 10:56 AM

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Crocker Jarmen 08-24-15 11:43 AM

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01. <FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #F9DF00">S:</FONT> Name a super-hero movie released this summer

http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/x...psyybuibfb.jpg

Spoiler:

Ant-Man 10
A-aron {sd} -20
devilshalo {sd} -20
Palaver{sd} -20
T-bone22 {sd} -20
Davidh777 {sd} -20
Dave Ninja{sd} -20
Bradler {sd} -20
Cdollaz
Abob Teff
Cardsfan111

Crocker Jarmen 08-24-15 11:46 AM

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http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/x...pse17qf2mg.jpg

Spoiler:

Fantastic Four 2
Damfino {sd} -4
NORML54601

Crocker Jarmen 08-24-15 11:48 AM

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http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/x...psb90rgunz.jpg


Spoiler:

Age of Ultron 20
Kgrogers1979{sd} -40
Shannon Nutt {sd} -40
Brainee{sd} -40
Rocket1312{sd} -40
Lord Zarak {sd} -40
Wishbone{sd} -40
Wazootyman{sd} -40
Fumanstan {sd} -40
Cnicholls44 {sd} -40
Drexl {sd} -40
Sauce07 {sd} -40
Kel-El{sd} -40
JJcool{sd} -40
Orangecrush {sd} -40
Obi-Wan Jabroni{sd} -40
Super X {sd} -40
Sleepyhead55{sd} -40
Decker
Ivelostr2
AaronHernandez

Crocker Jarmen 08-24-15 11:49 AM

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Scores After Question 1

Kgrogers1979 -40
Shannon Nutt -40
Brainee -40
Rocket1312 -40
Lord Zarak -40
Wishbone -40
Wazootyman -40
Fumanstan -40
Cnicholls44 -40
Drexl -40
Sauce07 -40
Kel-El -40
JJcool -40
Orangecrush -40
Obi-Wan Jabroni -40
Super X -40
Sleepyhead55 -40
Decker -20
Ivelostr2 -20
AaronHernandez -20
A-aron -20
devilshalo -20
Palaver -20
T-bone22 -20
Davidh777 -20
Dave Ninja -20
Bradler -20
Cdollaz -10
Abob Teff -10
Cardsfan111 -10
Damfino -4
NORML54601 -2

davidh777 08-24-15 11:50 AM

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Forgot The Avengers was this summer it seems so long ago. :brickwl2:

Thanks to the others with short memories for saving me from a bootsy.

ivelostr2 08-24-15 11:50 AM

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Dammit.

I thought that would be more spread out

Crocker Jarmen 08-24-15 11:54 AM

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02. <FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #F9DF00">S:</FONT> Name a country visited by Indiana Jones

http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/x...psxftfp4gc.jpg


Spoiler:
United States 0
Kgrogers1979


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