How Fox Can Salvage The Fantastic Four - Financially
08-07-15, 03:03 PM
#51
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Re: How Fox Can Salvage The Fantastic Four - Financially
I wouldn't be surprised if this makes more money then Deadpool. Honestly, I predict it will due to the rating and content. Although FF probably has a much higher budget (looks like $122 million according to Wikipedia) Not sure why that would make you laugh though.
08-07-15, 04:27 PM
#54
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Re: How Fox Can Salvage The Fantastic Four - Financially
Not sure why it's so difficult to make a decent film about this group. I didn't hate the first two, but they were fair at best. With all the good flicks out right now I definitely won't waste my money on something sitting at 10% on RT.
Maybe releasing it in the middle of winter with no other competition would have been better.
08-07-15, 04:31 PM
#55
Re: How Fox Can Salvage The Fantastic Four - Financially
Because everyone is shitting on FF (even the director, if I'm not mistaken) but could still make money. Who knows. Stranger things have happened. And everyone is raving about Deadpool and I just think that it is going to bomb. Outside Buried, when was the last time Ryan has had a success?
08-07-15, 04:41 PM
#56
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Re: How Fox Can Salvage The Fantastic Four - Financially
If you've been following the insane stories of how Trank basically imploded while making this movie, a commentary by Trank himself will probably be more entertaining than either a deadpool track or the movie itself.
08-07-15, 04:53 PM
#57
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Re: How Fox Can Salvage The Fantastic Four - Financially
How Fox can salvage the Fantastic Four:
Team up with DC and put Batman in it.
Is there anything Marvel could legally do to prevent Fox from doing that? That would be seriously f'ed up to see the Fantastic Four in the DC Cinematic Universe. Since Marvel and Fox seem to hate each other, I think Fox is more likely to team with DC than with Marvel assuming there are no legalities preventing Fox from doing so.
(Not that Fox is likely to team with DC either, but it probably is more likely than teaming with Marvel. I believe hell will freeze over before Fox will ever do a co-deal with Marvel like Sony is doing now.)
Team up with DC and put Batman in it.
Is there anything Marvel could legally do to prevent Fox from doing that? That would be seriously f'ed up to see the Fantastic Four in the DC Cinematic Universe. Since Marvel and Fox seem to hate each other, I think Fox is more likely to team with DC than with Marvel assuming there are no legalities preventing Fox from doing so.
(Not that Fox is likely to team with DC either, but it probably is more likely than teaming with Marvel. I believe hell will freeze over before Fox will ever do a co-deal with Marvel like Sony is doing now.)
08-07-15, 05:10 PM
#58
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Re: How Fox Can Salvage The Fantastic Four - Financially
Because everyone is shitting on FF (even the director, if I'm not mistaken) but could still make money. Who knows. Stranger things have happened. And everyone is raving about Deadpool and I just think that it is going to bomb. Outside Buried, when was the last time Ryan has had a success?
That said, as I mentioned earlier given the budget differences I imagine Deadpool won't need to make nearly as much to recoup it's costs as FF does.
08-07-15, 05:54 PM
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Even though I sort of set this off by saying Reynolds has been Box Office Poison, it wasn't to take a shot at him and say there's no chance for Deadpool, I just think that he's been in a string of crappy movies (that would have been crappy movies with or without him) and that has taken considerable shine from his star. I only said it because I found the statement that it was green lighted because Reynolds was attached to be odd.
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08-07-15, 06:23 PM
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08-07-15, 06:48 PM
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Re: How Fox Can Salvage The Fantastic Four - Financially
Fox rushed this to production, kept total control of the work, and then wanted money. This is similar to Alien 3 except I think A3 suffered from lack of budget rather than "hurry up and finish." The suits were trying to beat the deadline of losing the rights to Marvel. By doing another movie, any movie, it keeps it in their studio.
And honestly, when shody work is done, it shows even in films where "CGI hides" or "post fixes" things. Fox has proven with the Marvel licensed films that all they really care about is money. Money at any cost.
Now that Fox smelled Benjamins and Andrews attached to Deadpool, they are using that character to drive FF sales. Remember they didn't want to touch that property until last years SDCC leak when the internet went nuts. There was already Deadpool cross promotion thing with the FF trailer that ended with Deadpool saying that if you see FF, you get to see the trailer for his movie.
And honestly, when shody work is done, it shows even in films where "CGI hides" or "post fixes" things. Fox has proven with the Marvel licensed films that all they really care about is money. Money at any cost.
Now that Fox smelled Benjamins and Andrews attached to Deadpool, they are using that character to drive FF sales. Remember they didn't want to touch that property until last years SDCC leak when the internet went nuts. There was already Deadpool cross promotion thing with the FF trailer that ended with Deadpool saying that if you see FF, you get to see the trailer for his movie.
08-08-15, 02:51 AM
#62
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Re: How Fox Can Salvage The Fantastic Four - Financially
Rifftrax doesn't even do new movies much any more. They have been sticking to shorts and B-movies (ala MST3K) for a couple years now. Their most recent movie releases are Megaforce, Julie and Jack (from the director of Birdemic), and Stone Cold.
08-08-15, 04:18 AM
#63
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Re: How Fox Can Salvage The Fantastic Four - Financially
Fox rushed this to production, kept total control of the work, and then wanted money. This is similar to Alien 3 except I think A3 suffered from lack of budget rather than "hurry up and finish." The suits were trying to beat the deadline of losing the rights to Marvel. By doing another movie, any movie, it keeps it in their studio.
And honestly, when shody work is done, it shows even in films where "CGI hides" or "post fixes" things. Fox has proven with the Marvel licensed films that all they really care about is money. Money at any cost.
And honestly, when shody work is done, it shows even in films where "CGI hides" or "post fixes" things. Fox has proven with the Marvel licensed films that all they really care about is money. Money at any cost.
08-08-15, 04:33 AM
#64
Re: How Fox Can Salvage The Fantastic Four - Financially
I honestly wish that I had come up with this idea, but I didn't. But it's an idea brilliant enough to share with you guys...
HAVE DEADPOOL DO A COMMENTARY FOR THE NEW FANTASTIC FOUR DVD/BLU RAY!!!
Have Deadpool do his thing making fun of the movie and cracking smartass jokes. It would be PHENOMENAL! It would be far better than Mystery Science Theater 3000!
Fox would sell a boatload of these things, AND they'd help promote the Deadpool movie at the same time!
Brilliant.
HAVE DEADPOOL DO A COMMENTARY FOR THE NEW FANTASTIC FOUR DVD/BLU RAY!!!
Have Deadpool do his thing making fun of the movie and cracking smartass jokes. It would be PHENOMENAL! It would be far better than Mystery Science Theater 3000!
Fox would sell a boatload of these things, AND they'd help promote the Deadpool movie at the same time!
Brilliant.
You don't mean this one, do you?
08-08-15, 05:04 AM
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Re: How Fox Can Salvage The Fantastic Four - Financially
Deadpool. Not Dead Pool. Get your goddamn reading glasses, old fuck.
I never saw that Eastwood flick btw. Actually none of the Dirty Harry sequels. They just don't interest me.
I never saw that Eastwood flick btw. Actually none of the Dirty Harry sequels. They just don't interest me.
08-08-15, 09:45 AM
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08-08-15, 10:33 AM
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You are both dead to me.
Rifftrax doesn't even do new movies much any more. They have been sticking to shorts and B-movies (ala MST3K) for a couple years now. Their most recent movie releases are Megaforce, Julie and Jack (from the director of Birdemic), and Stone Cold.
Rifftrax doesn't even do new movies much any more. They have been sticking to shorts and B-movies (ala MST3K) for a couple years now. Their most recent movie releases are Megaforce, Julie and Jack (from the director of Birdemic), and Stone Cold.
08-08-15, 10:34 AM
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Re: How Fox Can Salvage The Fantastic Four - Financially
I love Rifftrax and MST3k, lifelong fan.
08-08-15, 12:59 PM
#71
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Re: How Fox Can Salvage The Fantastic Four - Financially
How Fox can salvage the Fantastic Four:
Team up with DC and put Batman in it.
Is there anything Marvel could legally do to prevent Fox from doing that? That would be seriously f'ed up to see the Fantastic Four in the DC Cinematic Universe. Since Marvel and Fox seem to hate each other, I think Fox is more likely to team with DC than with Marvel assuming there are no legalities preventing Fox from doing so.
(Not that Fox is likely to team with DC either, but it probably is more likely than teaming with Marvel. I believe hell will freeze over before Fox will ever do a co-deal with Marvel like Sony is doing now.)
Team up with DC and put Batman in it.
Is there anything Marvel could legally do to prevent Fox from doing that? That would be seriously f'ed up to see the Fantastic Four in the DC Cinematic Universe. Since Marvel and Fox seem to hate each other, I think Fox is more likely to team with DC than with Marvel assuming there are no legalities preventing Fox from doing so.
(Not that Fox is likely to team with DC either, but it probably is more likely than teaming with Marvel. I believe hell will freeze over before Fox will ever do a co-deal with Marvel like Sony is doing now.)
08-08-15, 01:16 PM
#72
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Re: How Fox Can Salvage The Fantastic Four - Financially
They can still salvage this. All they have to do is CGI in a white guy to replace black Johnny Storm.
08-08-15, 02:19 PM
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Re: How Fox Can Salvage The Fantastic Four - Financially
“Fantastic Four” is struggling to find its footing at the box office this weekend, suggesting that not even superheroes are immune to poor reviews.
Early estimates show the 20th Century Fox release struggling to hit $30 million for the weekend, which is well below the anticipated mid-$40 million mark. Should the estimates keep plummeting, the opening could prove disastrous for the studio, which spent $120 million on the pic.
Thursday night previews for “Fantastic Four” pulled in a lukewarm $2.7 million at 2,900 locations.
The last major superhero release to premiere under $35 million was Sony’s “The Green Hornet” in 2011 ($33.5 million).
In addition to “Fantastic Four’s” not-so-fantastic 9% rating on Rotten Tomatoes, a damning tweet from the film’s own director, Josh Trank, suggested that even he was disappointed with the final cut. Kate Mara, Michael B. Jordan, Jamie Bell and Miles Teller star in the reboot.
Last weekend’s champ, “Mission Impossible: Rogue Nation,” which is close behind “Fantastic Four” with an estimated $27 million weekend. Tom Cruise’s fifth installment in the Paramount franchise should reach $100 million domestically by Monday.
This weekend’s other domestic releases include thriller “The Gift,” which is on track for $8.5 million for the weekend. Joel Edgerton, Rebecca Hall and Jason bateman star in the STX Entertainment release.
Meryl Streep starrer “Ricki and the Flash” is performing similarly to “The Gift.” The TriStar release, about an aging rocker reconnecting with her family, looks poised for a debut between $6 million and $7 million.
The animated “Shaun the Sheep” bowed Wednesday to a disappointing $852,000, suggesting a weekend total around $6 million
Early estimates show the 20th Century Fox release struggling to hit $30 million for the weekend, which is well below the anticipated mid-$40 million mark. Should the estimates keep plummeting, the opening could prove disastrous for the studio, which spent $120 million on the pic.
Thursday night previews for “Fantastic Four” pulled in a lukewarm $2.7 million at 2,900 locations.
The last major superhero release to premiere under $35 million was Sony’s “The Green Hornet” in 2011 ($33.5 million).
In addition to “Fantastic Four’s” not-so-fantastic 9% rating on Rotten Tomatoes, a damning tweet from the film’s own director, Josh Trank, suggested that even he was disappointed with the final cut. Kate Mara, Michael B. Jordan, Jamie Bell and Miles Teller star in the reboot.
Last weekend’s champ, “Mission Impossible: Rogue Nation,” which is close behind “Fantastic Four” with an estimated $27 million weekend. Tom Cruise’s fifth installment in the Paramount franchise should reach $100 million domestically by Monday.
This weekend’s other domestic releases include thriller “The Gift,” which is on track for $8.5 million for the weekend. Joel Edgerton, Rebecca Hall and Jason bateman star in the STX Entertainment release.
Meryl Streep starrer “Ricki and the Flash” is performing similarly to “The Gift.” The TriStar release, about an aging rocker reconnecting with her family, looks poised for a debut between $6 million and $7 million.
The animated “Shaun the Sheep” bowed Wednesday to a disappointing $852,000, suggesting a weekend total around $6 million
08-08-15, 05:29 PM
#75
DVD Talk Legend
Re: How Fox Can Salvage The Fantastic Four - Financially
Make a deal with Disney.
Fox Gets:
TV rights/profit sharing with Disney for 'Xmen' TV rights.
Profit sharing on Merchandise
Small percentage of $$ from FF universe characters
Disney Gets:
FF & universe
Fox Gets:
TV rights/profit sharing with Disney for 'Xmen' TV rights.
Profit sharing on Merchandise
Small percentage of $$ from FF universe characters
Disney Gets:
FF & universe