The Batman (2022, D: Matt Reeves) S: Pattinson
10-30-15 | 10:30 PM
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The sad thing is I'd love for stories like this to be adapted into films but the way they're doing it just seems so sad backwards.
10-31-15 | 02:10 AM
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10-31-15 | 06:01 AM
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Re: The Batman (D: Ben Affleck)
This. I'm excited to see wtf an actual filmmaker that gives a damn about making quality can do w/ this.
10-31-15 | 04:13 PM
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I've liked all of Affleck's directorial efforts but I'm not convinced that this film will be good solely because of his name being attached for starring and directing. His films so far have been crime dramas for the most part and one rescue mission drama. I think he'll be a good choice but we haven't seen him direct something close to a superhero film in scale.
11-01-15 | 01:18 PM
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I've liked all of Affleck's directorial efforts but I'm not convinced that this film will be good solely because of his name being attached for starring and directing. His films so far have been crime dramas for the most part and one rescue mission drama. I think he'll be a good choice but we haven't seen him direct something close to a superhero film in scale.
The 2nd unit director will help him with all the big action scenes. They always hire a veteran 2nd unit director when they hire an action newb as the main director.
11-01-15 | 01:38 PM
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While I do wish the same actor would play the character in the movies forever for continuity's sake, that is an impossible expectation in the real world. I can't realistically expect Michael Keaton to still be playing Batman 25 years later. Imagine if Sean Connery was still playing James Bond. Who wants an 80 year old James Bond? 
11-01-15 | 02:48 PM
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Re: The Batman (D: Ben Affleck)
While I do wish the same actor would play the character in the movies forever for continuity's sake, that is an impossible expectation in the real world. I can't realistically expect Michael Keaton to still be playing Batman 25 years later. Imagine if Sean Connery was still playing James Bond. Who wants an 80 year old James Bond?
11-01-15 | 05:34 PM
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Dalton's films were sort of odd; TLD seemed like it was trying to be an 80s action flick, while LTK was an extended episodeof Miami Vice.
When I watched Brosnan's films, I was sort of surprised that they as bad as I thought they would be.
11-01-15 | 05:47 PM
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Dalton did gritty Bond before Craig got all the credit for it.
11-01-15 | 06:11 PM
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Re: The Batman (D: Ben Affleck)
I'm really surprised that people are angry they aren't going to get more backstory on Batman. Do we really need to see Thomas and Martha gunned down in an alley AGAIN?
11-01-15 | 09:35 PM
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The impact of said events isn't meant for the viewer, it's meant to establish Batman's frame of mind in the film.
11-01-15 | 09:53 PM
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Regardless of that using that storyline as part of the set up and story for this film without establishing any of those characters beforehand is dumb because it makes those events lose pretty much all meaning. There are a ton of ways to show how fucked up Batman's frame of mind is, he's one of the easiest characters to establish that with. Using characters and events of a storyline that aren't shown are just going to make a lot of casual viewers feel lost in my opinion. Besides that even if it is about establishing Batman's mindset in this film the viewer should still care why he is that way. Ultimately a storyline like this at this point does nothing but lead to confusion for people unfamiliar with the source material.
11-02-15 | 07:14 AM
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11-02-15 | 07:57 AM
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Re: The Batman (D: Ben Affleck)
someone please report this thread to a mod... essentially spoils the ending of BvS
oJ. Now I know that Batman lives.
oJ. Now I know that Batman lives.
11-02-15 | 11:53 AM
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I'm dumbfounded why you need everything spelled out on film. I don't need to know the backstory of a dead character. It's a plot device. I think you're under the assumption that because this character has a history that he deserves screen time. That's a false assumption. Do you need an entire film dedicated to Thomas and Martha Wayne to accept Batman's mindset or enjoy a Batman film? Of course not, you accept it because it's a plot device to establish a character. I don't see how this is any different.
11-02-15 | 12:12 PM
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There's a difference though.
Thomas and Martha Wayne dying is all you need. We all have parents, most of us, and we can understand the horror of losing them in such a manner. It's a shitty thing. It's also a simple thing to construct emotion and motivation from.
Having someone, as rumored, like that is all kinds of different. We might care about Bats' emotions cuz it's Bats and we just easily position that but we don't get the warranted emotion of the loss. We can understand his loss but we won't get the depth of his loss. For us to feel the shock or surprise of that? It has to be earned. Cap's films have done well w/ that. It's earned and the surprise is stronger.
Thomas and Martha Wayne dying is all you need. We all have parents, most of us, and we can understand the horror of losing them in such a manner. It's a shitty thing. It's also a simple thing to construct emotion and motivation from.
Having someone, as rumored, like that is all kinds of different. We might care about Bats' emotions cuz it's Bats and we just easily position that but we don't get the warranted emotion of the loss. We can understand his loss but we won't get the depth of his loss. For us to feel the shock or surprise of that? It has to be earned. Cap's films have done well w/ that. It's earned and the surprise is stronger.
11-02-15 | 01:27 PM
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11-02-15 | 06:58 PM
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I'm dumbfounded why you need everything spelled out on film. I don't need to know the backstory of a dead character. It's a plot device. I think you're under the assumption that because this character has a history that he deserves screen time. That's a false assumption. Do you need an entire film dedicated to Thomas and Martha Wayne to accept Batman's mindset or enjoy a Batman film? Of course not, you accept it because it's a plot device to establish a character. I don't see how this is any different.
It seems to me like DC is making too many assumptions that people are familiar with the Batman mythos or just that people will accept whatever they stick Batman in with just because without establishing shit. It's shitty story telling in my opinion.
11-02-15 | 07:46 PM
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11-02-15 | 08:00 PM
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Okay? I'm trying to be purposefully vague so as not to get ragged on for spoilers.
11-02-15 | 11:47 PM
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I dare them to call this movie The Goddamn Batman.
11-03-15 | 05:45 AM
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