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Hazel Motes 11-24-14 02:15 AM

Little known but very interesting movie facts.
 
The genesis for this thread comes from a fact I just read on wikipedia.

Walt Disney, in his lifetime, won 22 Academy Awards. The most Academy awards won by anyone ever.

And here I didn't know he even won once.

For some reason this blew my mind.

Ash Ketchum 11-24-14 07:45 AM

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Terence Young's western, RED SUN (1972), was the first time a member of the original Seven Samurai (Toshiro Mifune) and the original Magnificent Seven (Charles Bronson) teamed up in a film together. (THE MAGNIFICENT SEVEN was the 1960 Hollywood remake of THE SEVEN SAMURAI, 1954.) Later films, like MIDWAY (1976), had cast members from each but they didn't share the screen like they do in RED SUN.

inri222 11-24-14 08:20 AM

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Frank Sinatra (73 at the time) was originally offered the role of John McClane

Ash Ketchum 11-24-14 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by inri222 (Post 12312311)
Frank Sinatra (73 at the time) was originally offered the role of John McClane

That's because the book DIE HARD was based on, "Nothing Lasts Forever," was a sequel to "The Detective" by the same author (Roderick Thorp) which had been made into an earlier movie, THE DETECTIVE (1968), which starred Sinatra, although the character name was different in the movie (Joe Leland).

inri222 11-24-14 09:01 AM

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Robin Williams' voice is the only thing in AI that was actually directed by Stanley Kubrick. It was done way before Steven Spielberg was attached to the movie.

Solid Snake 11-24-14 09:05 AM

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Really?

Why So Blu? 11-24-14 09:37 AM

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Bruce Lee was originally going to play Kane in Kung-Fu but it went to David Carradine, because the studios did not thing an Asian would be popular with American audiences.

mrhan 11-24-14 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Ash Ketchum (Post 12312327)
That's because the book DIE HARD was based on, "Nothing Lasts Forever," was a sequel to "The Detective" by the same author (Roderick Thorp) which had been made into an earlier movie, THE DETECTIVE (1968), which starred Sinatra, although the character name was different in the movie (Joe Leland).

Interesting. After reading the synopsis for this and the follow up novel it's basically a Die Hard prequel. I wouldn't mind seeing this as a remake to put it in line with the rest of the series.


Originally Posted by Why So Blu? (Post 12312395)
Bruce Lee was originally going to play Caine in Kung-Fu but it went to David Carradine, because the studios did not think an Asian would be popular with American audiences.

I think the studios got it right....if I was putting up the money for a series back then I wouldn't even consider Lee...and I'm Asian. Lee understood this.

He wasn't even credited in the series. I believe the original concept was more in line with the movie he was trying to make with Stirling Siliphant titled "The Silent Flute"...a sort of East meets West journey to find enlightement with a shitload of violence. This was later made into "Circle of Iron" starring Carradine. It had almost nothing to do with Lee's original concept.

Shannon Nutt 11-24-14 02:49 PM

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- Adam West turned down the role of James Bond in DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER.

- The score for 2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY was Kubrick's temp track for the movie. He actually had an original score written by composer Alex North, but when it came time to premiere the movie, North was surprised that Kubrick left the temp track in (Kubrick hadn't told him he was keeping it). The two men barely spoke to each other again.

Solid Snake 11-24-14 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Why So Blu? (Post 12312395)
Bruce Lee was originally going to play Kane in Kung-Fu but it went to David Carradine, because the studios did not thing an Asian would be popular with American audiences.

I don't think that is little known. It's widely known, no?

van der graaf 11-24-14 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Solid Snake (Post 12312809)
I don't think that is little known. It's widely known, no?

Considering it was shown in "Dragon: The Bruce Lee Story," I would say yes.

Paff 11-24-14 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by mrhan (Post 12312419)
I think the studios got it right....if I was putting up the money for a series back then I wouldn't even consider Lee...and I'm Asian. Lee understood this.

Yeah, well we all know how you feel about Bruce Lee, Mr. Han

Ash Ketchum 11-24-14 03:51 PM

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Bruce Lee was originally going to play Kane in Kung-Fu but it went to David Carradine, because the studios did not thing an Asian would be popular with American audiences.
I said it before and I'll say it again:

It's Caine, not Kane!

http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/3/5/4...4795577_tp.jpg
http://www.veggiedude.com/kungfu/images/kwaichang.jpg


Bruce Lee was never in line to play Kane:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ATx6PC7ss0...son-welles.jpg

Norm de Plume 11-24-14 04:18 PM

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I don't remember who first mentioned this here, but I found it fascinating: Tarkovsky's lavish original version of Stalker was destroyed in a fire, so the gloriously minimalist, cerebral sci-fi film we ended up with was a fluke (Thank Fire).

Mondo Kane 11-24-14 04:27 PM

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Japan made a King Kong movie in the 1930s
http://cdn.denofgeek.us/sites/denofg...-king-kong.jpgi

Mabuse 11-24-14 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Norm de Plume (Post 12312893)
I don't remember who first mentioned this here, but I found it fascinating: Tarkovsky's lavish original version of Stalker was destroyed in a fire, so the gloriously minimalist, cerebral sci-fi film we ended up with was a fluke (Thank Fire).

It's a little more complicated than that.

I only have my phone right now. So I can't type whole story. Maybe someone else will chime in.

Solid Snake 11-24-14 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Mondo Kane (Post 12312902)
Japan made a King Kong movie in the 1930s
http://cdn.denofgeek.us/sites/denofg...-king-kong.jpgi

Wow. It's called.... King Kong Appears in Edo. Came out in 1938, and it either disappeared via carelessness or.... it was destroyed during the bombings in Japan during WWII. Wow. That's crazy shit. Guy who made that suit later helped make the Godzilla suit from 1954. Crazy.

Made w/o the permission of RKO.

Damn. never heard of this thing. Fascinating.

hanshotfirst1138 11-24-14 05:23 PM

I'm a longtime monster movie and Kong fan and is never heard of it. Fascinating indeed.

Ash Ketchum 11-24-14 06:26 PM

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Marlon Brando won the Best Actor Oscar for ON THE WATERFRONT (1954) while three of his male co-stars were nominated for Best Supporting Actor but didn’t win. (Steiger, Malden, Cobb)

Marlon Brando won the Best Actor Oscar for THE GODFATHER (1972) while three of his male co-stars were nominated for Best Supporting Actor but didn’t win. (Duvall, Pacino, Caan)

Both films won Best Picture.

Interesting coincidences: in both years, a black actress was up for Best Actress: Dorothy Dandridge for CARMEN JONES in 1954 and Diana Ross for LADY SINGS THE BLUES in 1972. Neither won and no black actress was nominated in the years in between.
Judy Garland was also up for Best Actress in 1954 (for A STAR IS BORN), but didn't win. Her daughter, Liza Minnelli won for Best Actress in 1972 (for CABARET). Garland had starred in THE WIZARD OF OZ (1939) and Diana Ross starred in its remake, THE WIZ (1978).

Numanoid 11-24-14 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by inri222 (Post 12312344)
Robin Williams' voice is the only thing in AI that was actually directed by Stanley Kubrick. It was done way before Steven Spielberg was attached to the movie.

[citation needed]

Nick Danger 11-24-14 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Shannon Nutt (Post 12312781)
- The score for 2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY was Kubrick's temp track for the movie. He actually had an original score written by composer Alex North, but when it came time to premiere the movie, North was surprised that Kubrick left the temp track in (Kubrick hadn't told him he was keeping it). The two men barely spoke to each other again.

It happens. Boorman commissioned a score for Excalibur, but ended up keeping the library tracks of Wagner and Orff.

Solid Snake 11-24-14 07:10 PM

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Yeah. I never heard that about A.I.

mrhan 11-25-14 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Paff (Post 12312849)
Yeah, well we all know how you feel about Bruce Lee, Mr. Han

:lol:

Norm de Plume 11-25-14 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Paff (Post 12312849)
Yeah, well we all know how you feel about Bruce Lee, Mr. Han

Ooh, the claws are coming out.

johnnysd 11-25-14 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Nick Danger (Post 12313081)
It happens. Boorman commissioned a score for Excalibur, but ended up keeping the library tracks of Wagner and Orff.


An awesome move. It is the best "soundtrack" of any movie in my opinion. I looked for the Excalibur soundtrack for years before someone informed me it was Wagner and Orff. Arguably the greatest symphonic piece and greatest choral piece ever written in one movie.

Solid Snake 11-25-14 05:46 PM

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that was funny.

inri222 11-25-14 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Numanoid (Post 12313053)
[citation needed]

I read it somewhere online a while ago and can't find it. Now the only place I find it is on the IMDB trivia for the film.

hanshotfirst1138 11-25-14 07:11 PM


Originally Posted by johnnysd (Post 12314298)
An awesome move. It is the best "soundtrack" of any movie in my opinion. I looked for the Excalibur soundtrack for years before someone informed me it was Wagner and Orff. Arguably the greatest symphonic piece and greatest choral piece ever written in one movie.

Nicholas Meyer wanted to use Holst's The Planets as the score for Star Trek VI originally, from what I understand.

mrhan 11-25-14 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Norm de Plume (Post 12314281)
Ooh, the claws are coming out.

Man....you guys come right out of a comic book.

Numanoid 11-25-14 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by hanshotfirst1138 (Post 12314366)
Nicholas Meyer wanted to use Holst's The Planets as the score for Star Trek VI originally, from what I understand.

He essentially got a version of Mars:




Shannon Nutt 11-26-14 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by hanshotfirst1138 (Post 12314366)
Nicholas Meyer wanted to use Holst's The Planets as the score for Star Trek VI originally, from what I understand.

That's not exactly true...but he did want a score similar to Holst's The Planets.

Jason 11-26-14 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Solid Snake (Post 12312961)
Wow. It's called.... King Kong Appears in Edo. Came out in 1938, and it either disappeared via carelessness or.... it was destroyed during the bombings in Japan during WWII. Wow. That's crazy shit. Guy who made that suit later helped make the Godzilla suit from 1954. Crazy.

Made w/o the permission of RKO.

Damn. never heard of this thing. Fascinating.

I used to be pretty heavy into the Godzilla stuff, and I never heard of this either.

Found this very brief clip on Youtube, but further searching debunked it pretty easily as footage from "Yeti: Giant of the 20th Century".

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/L_2jUC60Ye4" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Edit: The entire film may be a hoax.

http://badassdigest.com/2013/07/27/k...ppears-in-edo/

Solid Snake 11-26-14 05:19 PM

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that looks new. Manipulated to look old but it is new.

Hazel Motes 12-09-14 12:29 AM

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Weeks before the release of the film "The Land Before Time" Judith Barsi, the 10 year old girl who voiced Ducky was murdered along with her mother by their Dad/Husband, who eventually turned the gun on himself.

At 10 years old she had over 25 film and television credits to her name including Cheers, Growing Pains, Punky Brewster, Cagney & Lacey, All Dog's Go To Heaven and Jaws: The Revenge.

DaveyJoe 12-09-14 12:30 AM

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http://ib3.huluim.com/video/7596082?...S&size=600x400

Hazel Motes 12-09-14 12:38 AM

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Super Dave Osbourne and Albert Brooks are brothers.

Super Dave Osbourne's real name is Bob Einstein, making Albert's real name (and stop me if you see where this is going) Albert Einstein.

Hazel Motes 12-09-14 12:45 AM

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For a period of time, before any of them were remotely famous, Robert Duvall, Dustin Hoffman and Gene Hackman shared an apartment.

Hazel Motes 12-09-14 12:47 AM

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Halle Berry once stormed off the set of X2 and threatened to quit when Bryan Singer was openly fingering a go go boys ass in his Directors chair between shots.

Hazel Motes 12-09-14 12:50 AM

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Liz Sheridan was once the girlfriend of James Dean and the two were even briefly engaged. Liz Sheridan played Jerry Seinfelds mother on Seinfeld.

Hazel Motes 12-09-14 01:35 AM

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A photograph exists of Marlon Brando with another mans dick in his mouth.


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