Video store memories?
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I definitely think DVD had a big part in the demise of video rental stores. In the VHS days, the vast majority of films did not go on sale to the public upon release. The studios charged up to $100 per VHS copy. The big stores got a discount on that. Titles didn't drop in price until well after their initial release so that's why everyone rented movies.
And then came DVD, where you could now own the movie outright for $20 or so. Why rent for $6 or whatever when you could just own the movie for just a little bit more. Also, DVD was a far superior format to VHS in every way, which led to people creating home theatres and video libraries in far greater numbers than before. This very website is a testament to that.
Piracy and online streaming are big factors too but I think the rise of DVD was the big one.
And then came DVD, where you could now own the movie outright for $20 or so. Why rent for $6 or whatever when you could just own the movie for just a little bit more. Also, DVD was a far superior format to VHS in every way, which led to people creating home theatres and video libraries in far greater numbers than before. This very website is a testament to that.
Piracy and online streaming are big factors too but I think the rise of DVD was the big one.
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Say what you will, but I still firmly believe that market factors had very little to do with the death of Blockbuster. Blockbuster killed Blockbuster through mismanagement. Hollywood killed itself in the same manner. Blockbuster had no fucking clue or interest in serving its customers -- they only wanted to bleed out every penny of stockholder value. Hollywood had a CEO who couldn't figure out that he couldn't keep his hand in the kitty after he sold the company to stockholders.
There was no direct competition (i.e., Netflix) with a big enough presence to be a threat. Streaming was not viable yet. While many of us DVDTalkers preferred to buy, the general public (far more people than us) did not hold that view. They weren't interested in paying $15 to buy Leprechaun 17: Luck of the Damned. They were happy to fork over $3-4 to rent whatever dreck that came spewing from the bowels of of Tinseltown.
There was no direct competition (i.e., Netflix) with a big enough presence to be a threat. Streaming was not viable yet. While many of us DVDTalkers preferred to buy, the general public (far more people than us) did not hold that view. They weren't interested in paying $15 to buy Leprechaun 17: Luck of the Damned. They were happy to fork over $3-4 to rent whatever dreck that came spewing from the bowels of of Tinseltown.
#128
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Blockbuster was a complete train-wreck their last few years in business. Redbox was killing them on new-release rentals, and they had nothing for people like me who still BOUGHT movies- just a handful of semi-popular titles with a lot of store space wasted on crap that had nothing to do with movies (the "As Seen on TV" items.) Reading inside info on what their leaders were doing, such as ordering staff to push sales of candy and stuff, shows that they had no fucking clue.
#129
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I remember now why we all jumped ship to Blockbuster. When a new release came out they had an entire wall filled with just that one title.
I didn't know that Blockbuster was such a train wreck behind the scenes. I only remember them introducing the "no late fees" policy and getting in trouble for it.
I didn't know that Blockbuster was such a train wreck behind the scenes. I only remember them introducing the "no late fees" policy and getting in trouble for it.
#130
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Haven't read this entire thread (only the last page) so others may have mentioned this, but one big thing I remember was how some stores would have "New Releases" (higher rental) movies on the wall for up to a year after they were released on VHS/DVD.
By the time they were relegated to the $1/night "category" movies, the tapes were often wrinkled & the discs were scratched. I did learn how to open the VHS hinges and check the tape so the VCR wouldn't eat it or there wouldn't be lines running through the whole thing. Same with checking discs; if they were too scratched when they got them out, I'd just hand them back.
By the time they were relegated to the $1/night "category" movies, the tapes were often wrinkled & the discs were scratched. I did learn how to open the VHS hinges and check the tape so the VCR wouldn't eat it or there wouldn't be lines running through the whole thing. Same with checking discs; if they were too scratched when they got them out, I'd just hand them back.
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I managed a couple mom & pop stores in the 80’s! Never was a fan of Blockbuster or Hollywood Video. The 1st store I managed was called Movie Mania! It was located in Ashland Va just north of Richmond. We carried all ratings and had the notorious porn room. I got to know my customers by 1st name and even got to know their taste in movies! Had a special on Saturday’s from 4-6p, 4 movies for $6.99. Store closed at 6p on Saturdays and was closed on Sundays! No wonder they went out of business! Lol!! I became a firefighter during my time managing the 2nd store. I really miss those early years of video!! Now that I’m retired from fire department I wish video stores were still a thing because I’d love to do that all over again!!
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I managed a couple mom & pop stores in the 80’s! Never was a fan of Blockbuster or Hollywood Video. The 1st store I managed was called Movie Mania! It was located in Ashland Va just north of Richmond. We carried all ratings and had the notorious porn room. I got to know my customers by 1st name and even got to know their taste in movies! Had a special on Saturday’s from 4-6p, 4 movies for $6.99. Store closed at 6p on Saturdays and was closed on Sundays! No wonder they went out of business! Lol!! I became a firefighter during my time managing the 2nd store. I really miss those early years of video!! Now that I’m retired from fire department I wish video stores were still a thing because I’d love to do that all over again!!
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#134
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We are getting a "Vidiots" store and theater in Eagle Rock next year, so hopefully that will fill the gap left when Cinefamily closed down. It'll at least be closer than the one in Santa Monica for us folk that do not like trekking it to the westside.
https://www.lamag.com/culturefiles/v...rn-eagle-rock/
Even in a city of cinephiles, keeping a video store afloat is a tricky proposition. In early 2017, beloved brick-and-mortar temple to home video Vidiots closed its doors, 32 years after it was founded in Santa Monica by Patty Polinger and Cathy Tauber. The store withstood a number of changes to the way people watch movies at home, but streaming had become its most formidable challenger yet, even as the technology’s promise to put all things at all people’s fingertips all the time proved to be greatly exaggerated.At the time, the storefront’s closing was bad news but not the worst news—executive director Maggie Mackay had vowed that the store-turned-nonprofit Vidiots Foundation would return, but until today it wasn’t clear when, where, or in what capacity. Let’s just say the future looks as bright as a neon marquee.In fall of 2020, Vidiots will relaunch as a video store and repertory movie theater at the 90-year-old Eagle Theatre on Eagle Rock Boulevard. The space—most recently a church with a recognizable sign instructing passersby to “STOP SUFFERING”—is a long way from were Vidiots began, but Mackay says by phone that the adjustment in geography and mission are part of a well-plotted plan.
“We knew that for our longterm survival, rethinking our financial model was going to be a thing we did one way or another, as it became increasingly clear we weren’t going to stay in Santa Monica,” Mackay says. “Changing neighborhoods, changing costs and rents—they are what they are.” Around the time the video store shuttered, Vidiots announced that it was partnering with Annapurna Pictures. Working under the umbrella of Megan Ellison’s production company, the foundation was able to work with a team of advisors, board members, and analysts to “hunker down and figure out what we needed to be,” as Mackay puts it.To negotiate a longterm lease on the Eagle Theatre space, they hooked up with Jeffrey Birkmeyer, who became development partner and will provide support throughout the project. The project has also relied on some notable “founding members” for fundraising support, including married actors Mark Duplass and Katie Aselton, and film critic-podcaster Karina Longworth and her husband, director Rian Johnson. Director Jason Reitman is donating a 35mm projection system.When the space launches in 2020, expect film screenings and series curated by both outside and in-house programmers, food and bev collaborations, and, most importantly, the return of Vidiots’ 50,000-plus collection of DVDs and rare VHS tapes for rental. The return of the video store as a space for the next generation of movie buffs is particularly exciting for Mackay, a self-described latchkey kid who was raised by the cassettes she brought home from a SoHo video store.“Watching little kids run around in a video store is a stark reminder that physical space is important and browsability in a video store environment is important,” she says. “It gives them agency.”In the meantime, Vidiots will continue raising funds, plotting membership options (“A lot of people ask about the video store membership,” Mackay says. “That’s the reason we’re doing all of this, is to make that collection available to the public”), and continuing to host screenings and programs at partner venues, including the Bootleg in Historic Filipinotown and downtown’s new Alamo Drafthouse.“We love streaming services, they’re not the enemy, but it doesn’t mean they should eradicate other ways of accessing art,” Mackay says. “A human being can’t be replaced with an algorithm, especially when it comes to talking about art and making recommendations.”
“We knew that for our longterm survival, rethinking our financial model was going to be a thing we did one way or another, as it became increasingly clear we weren’t going to stay in Santa Monica,” Mackay says. “Changing neighborhoods, changing costs and rents—they are what they are.” Around the time the video store shuttered, Vidiots announced that it was partnering with Annapurna Pictures. Working under the umbrella of Megan Ellison’s production company, the foundation was able to work with a team of advisors, board members, and analysts to “hunker down and figure out what we needed to be,” as Mackay puts it.To negotiate a longterm lease on the Eagle Theatre space, they hooked up with Jeffrey Birkmeyer, who became development partner and will provide support throughout the project. The project has also relied on some notable “founding members” for fundraising support, including married actors Mark Duplass and Katie Aselton, and film critic-podcaster Karina Longworth and her husband, director Rian Johnson. Director Jason Reitman is donating a 35mm projection system.When the space launches in 2020, expect film screenings and series curated by both outside and in-house programmers, food and bev collaborations, and, most importantly, the return of Vidiots’ 50,000-plus collection of DVDs and rare VHS tapes for rental. The return of the video store as a space for the next generation of movie buffs is particularly exciting for Mackay, a self-described latchkey kid who was raised by the cassettes she brought home from a SoHo video store.“Watching little kids run around in a video store is a stark reminder that physical space is important and browsability in a video store environment is important,” she says. “It gives them agency.”In the meantime, Vidiots will continue raising funds, plotting membership options (“A lot of people ask about the video store membership,” Mackay says. “That’s the reason we’re doing all of this, is to make that collection available to the public”), and continuing to host screenings and programs at partner venues, including the Bootleg in Historic Filipinotown and downtown’s new Alamo Drafthouse.“We love streaming services, they’re not the enemy, but it doesn’t mean they should eradicate other ways of accessing art,” Mackay says. “A human being can’t be replaced with an algorithm, especially when it comes to talking about art and making recommendations.”
https://www.lamag.com/culturefiles/v...rn-eagle-rock/
#135
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In 2014, there were still three video rental stores in my area. I thought the phenomenon was wonderfully unusual so I made a documentary short about it:
As of this year, there is only one left (Film is Truth) and it's a non-profit operation now.
As of this year, there is only one left (Film is Truth) and it's a non-profit operation now.
#136
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I wonder if the amount of time and energy I spent over my lifetime walking through video rental stores is equivalent to the amount of time and energy I've spent over my lifetime scrolling through internet crap on my phone.
Nnnnno, it's more time in video stores, definitely video stores.
Nnnnno, it's more time in video stores, definitely video stores.
#137
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I guess this qualifies as a video store memory. Back in high school, the cutest girl at my part time job asked me to her junior prom. It was my first big date. Group of us went to a house afterwards for a scary movie. We stopped at the Blockbuster in Oakton. I had heard good things about Evil Dead and made the choice. Needless to say, I lost the chance for action that night, or a second date, after the tree in the woods scene, if not before.
#138
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In 2014, there were still three video rental stores in my area. I thought the phenomenon was wonderfully unusual so I made a documentary short about it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IF8mRefOejU
As of this year, there is only one left (Film is Truth) and it's a non-profit operation now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IF8mRefOejU
As of this year, there is only one left (Film is Truth) and it's a non-profit operation now.
We still have one video rental store, in town. Not far from me, but I can't remember the last time I rented anything. I do go there, on occasion, to do used CD hunting.
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The very first I heard of renting films on VHS was from Fotomat (the drive-up photo developers) and I think it was something like $8 a rental (maybe more). This was before stand-alone rental stores as far as I know.
I remember having credit at a record store and using it to buy a used copy of "Superman The Movie" for $40.
I remember having credit at a record store and using it to buy a used copy of "Superman The Movie" for $40.
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I remember the first time I watched Goodfellas. A buddy loaned it to me. It was a VHS screener aimed at video stores. I’d never seen one before. It opened with a specially made commercial telling viewers Goodfellas was a hit and probable Oscar winner and that you should buy in quantity. Like 6, 12, or 18 copies.
#142
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Four-year-&-nine-month thread bump and it picked up right where it left off.
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My best memory of working at a video store in college was making out with my manager after hours on the floor near the new releases
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Definitely the thing that stands out in my mind is the VHS cover for Jason Goes to Hell: The Final Friday, which as a child fascinated/terrified me whenever I'd see it in the Blockbuster, Hollywood Video, or whatever we had. To this day, I haven't seen more than the opening scene of that film, but by all accounts it's terrible.
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#148
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Definitely the thing that stands out in my mind is the VHS cover for Jason Goes to Hell: The Final Friday, which as a child fascinated/terrified me whenever I'd see it in the Blockbuster, Hollywood Video, or whatever we had. To this day, I haven't seen more than the opening scene of that film, but by all accounts it's terrible.
#149
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A memory I have of a long-gone video store was lusting over this stand-up display:
The store used to give their displays away, after a while, but I missed out on it.
Spoiler:
The store used to give their displays away, after a while, but I missed out on it.
#150
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Going to Blockbuster and all 20 copies of the latest movies on VHS are all checked out.
There was a local store called Video USA where I rented movies for maybe 2 or 3 years and then he went out of business in 1998 before Netflix arrived.
There was a local store called Video USA where I rented movies for maybe 2 or 3 years and then he went out of business in 1998 before Netflix arrived.




