hanshotfirst1138

AOE has made over a billion dollars worldwide. How on earth has it underperformed?

Artman

T4 is quite a bit lower domestically than the previous films (20-30% not counting ticket inflation), so that isn't up for debate. But it doesn't matter much since foreign is more than making up for it. Similar thing happened with the 4th Pirates film.

Found this interesting - from BOM:
Guardians of the Galaxy wound up having a ton of appeal with women: exit polling indicated that the audience was 44 percent female, which is the biggest share ever for a Marvel Cinematic Universe movie (the previous high was 40 percent for The Avengers). Meanwhile, the audience was 55 percent over the age of 25.

Maxflier

I did actually notice a large number of females at my showing.

fumanstan

Here's the comparison of Transformers movies. There's no question it has under-performed domestically compared to the previous entries in the series.

http://boxofficemojo.com/franchises/...ansformers.htm

But yeah, foreign box office has exploded the last few years to really make up that difference.

dan30oly

TF4 is only $17M away from being the number 1 movie of the year.
(the number 1 spot being held by the criminally overrated Captain America: Winter Soldier)

Having only been in the theaters for 6 weeks it can overcome.

That being said, it is NOT always about the money a movie brings in.
Michael Bay films are more about the experience you feel when you leave teh theater.
In that aspect he always delivers!
I always leave in an excited and euphoric state after seeing a Bay film.

Thank you.

Supermallet

It's the Chris Pratt effect. My girlfriend made a noise to herself when he got shirtless in the prison.

But she loved the movie as a whole. She was even more enthusiastic about it than I was, and I was fucking stoked.

Matthew Chmiel

Paramount also gave up the Chinese rights to the film, which is also where the film has made most of its money. However, I guess the trade-off there is they were able to produce the film at a reduced cost.

Transformers: $320M domestic; $390M international
Transformers 2: $402M domestic; $434M international
Transformers 3: $353M domestic; $771M international
Transformers 4: $241M+ domestic; $764M+ international ($301M+ being in China alone)

At the rate its currently going, AOE won't cross $250M domestically. That's underperforming compared to the last three especially given ticket inflation alongside 3D and IMAX distribution.

hanshotfirst1138

To whom did they give up the Chinese rights? The Chinese government?

Draven

God. There are so many things wrong with this post.

So glad to see GotG do so well. I've been excited since the initial announcement. I ordered their Star Wars-esque poster for my home theater room, I'll probably see it again in theaters and it's a day 1 Blu-ray purchase for me.

RichC2

Yeah, Transformers 4 underperformed domestically but performed well abroad. It was a co-production with a few chinese companies, but Paramount still received 25% of the ticket sales.

superdeluxe

Final numbers trickling out:

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/new...-amazes-723049

OldBoy

at least it made back most of its production costs. now, everything from here on out is pure profit!

fumanstan

I'm most impressed that it managed to make nearly as much as an established brand like Captain America, which was also well reviewed and still off the heals of Avengers. Kind of crazy.

TomOpus

New here?

There's still marketing costs.

bluetoast

Not exactly, since there's still marketing costs to be considered and probably a few other factors.

Edit: Beaten by Opus!

RichC2

Plus the studio only gets what, like 65% of that domestic (first weekend) and about 40% of that international take (depending on territory)?

RichC2

Actuals:

<<Last Weekend <Last Year	View Index: By Year | By Weekend
TW LW Title (click to view) Studio Weekend Gross % Change Theater Count / Change Average Total Gross Budget* Week # 1 N Guardians of the Galaxy BV $94,320,883 - 4,080 - $23,118 $94,320,883 $170 1 2 1 Lucy Uni. $18,252,590 -58.4% 3,202 +29 $5,700 $79,539,975 $40 2 3 N Get On Up Uni. $13,585,915 - 2,468 - $5,505 $13,585,915 font size="2">- 1 4 2 Hercules (2014) Par. $11,010,367 -63.1% 3,595 - $3,063 $52,658,415 $100 2 5 3 Dawn of the Planet of the Apes Fox $8,690,314 -48.2% 3,283 -385 $2,647 $189,319,987 $170 4 6 5 Planes: Fire & Rescue BV $6,044,003 -36.6% 3,241 -598 $1,865 $47,216,209 $50 3 7 4 The Purge: Anarchy Uni. $5,853,245 -44.2% 2,656 -200 $2,204 $63,264,220 $9 3 8 6 Sex Tape Sony $3,522,201 -41.8% 2,500 -562 $1,409 $33,880,665 $40 3 9 8 And So It Goes CE $3,261,935 -29.7% 1,816 +54 $1,796 $10,390,718 - 2 10 10 A Most Wanted Man RAtt. $3,240,980 +20.6% 726 +365 $4,464 $6,975,629 - 2 11 14 Boyhood IFC $2,398,683 +36.1% 310 +203 $7,738 $7,442,063 $4 4 12 7 Transformers: Age of Extinction Par. $2,241,072 -52.3% 1,732 -744 $1,294 $241,206,987 $210 6 13 9 Tammy WB $1,568,002 -54.6% 1,415 -1,147 $1,108 $81,530,707 $20 5 14 13 Maleficent BV $1,272,342 -30.7% 681 -396 $1,868 $234,740,473 $180 10 15 12 How to Train Your Dragon 2 Fox $1,216,629 -45.6% 861 -497 $1,413 $168,570,686 $145 8 16 11 22 Jump Street Sony $1,180,532 -54.6% 828 -785 $1,426 $188,441,614 $50 8 17 25 Magic in the Moonlight SPC $740,759 +79.8% 65 +48 $11,396 $1,323,095 - 2 18 15 Begin Again Wein. $668,236 -57.6% 727 -517 $919 $13,755,573 - 6 19 21 Chef ORF $657,530 -13.9% 350 -55 $1,879 $28,309,610 - 13 20 22 Edge of Tomorrow WB $629,586 +19.8% 402 +49 $1,566 $98,621,346 $178 9 21 18 Wish I Was Here Focus $610,109 -47.2% 753 +128 $810 $3,054,075 - 3 22 17 The Fluffy Movie ORF $530,206 -59.6% 432 - $1,227 $2,370,158 - 2 - 16 Earth to Echo Rela. $470,536 -66.1% 536 -736 $878 $36,978,205 $13 5 - 19 Kick UTV $439,304 -59.0% 162 -18 $2,712 $2,100,041 - 2

Lucy held up waaaay better than I thought it would. Overflow perhaps?

OldBoy

well, yeah, i meant after that...

superdeluxe

Disney is not going to be hurting for money. With all the merchandise out there. Hell, if they get that (Spoiler because its from the Movie) out there. Look out.

Solid Snake

I've always been lost on the sales of merchandise. How much financial does that stuff actually add?

Mondo Kane

While on the Disney tip, any chance for a quicker-than-expected disc release of this? Remember that Frozen certainly didn't waste much time.

RichC2

November 27th -> Feb 25th for Frozen (digital release, DVD on March 18th) is roughly 3 months.

3 Months from now on this would be November 4th which is too early to take advantage of the holiday crush, i would say a mid-november or mid-december release, so 3.5 - 4.5 months. My money is on Black Friday for retail disc (so either November 25th or November 28th).

From Cars (2006): Related merchandise, including scale models of several of the cars, broke records for retail sales of merchandise based on a Disney·Pixar film,[2] bringing an estimated $10 billion in 5 years since the film's release.

Marvel had a merchandising revenue of about $5.6b in 2010.

superdeluxe

Apparently the ladies loved GOTG:

Solid Snake

Damn.

superdeluxe

Frozen just passed Cars as the #2 disney merchandise of the year.