Comedy Sequels : Are They Doomed To Fail?
 

With another comedy sequel coming out in a few days (22 Jump Street -- and it looks pretty good actually), I wanted to reflect on the poor, poor history of (live action) comedy sequels.

Thinking back on it, personally I can't really think of any great comedy sequels at all. Sure a cast can reunite for another different movie (Monty Python films, for example), but it seems no matter how big the hit comedy was, the sequel just about never works - something that universally is certainly not the case for action or horror films -- some of those work, others don't. My theory has always been that comedies, when they work, are basically lightning in a bottle. What makes them funny for the most part is that it's something that the audience hasn't seen before or isn't expecting. Comedy sequels seem to make one of a few mistakes 1) They repeat everything that happened in the last movie and it's just less funny the second time around (Airplane 2, The Hangover 2), they mistake louder and more expensive for funnier (Beverly Hills Cop 2, Wayne's World ) 3), they can't really think of a logical reason that the story should continue but write a sequel anyway (Sister Act 2, Home Alone 2, Jewel of the Nile) or 4) they try to recapture the magic and make an okay but clearly inferior and less memorable film (Ghostbusters 2, Anchorman 2). I do think that one thing most comedies must have to make them work is a tidy ending and it does seem that a nicely wrapped-up conclusion to the story does make writing a sequel harder.

I keep thinking back and trying to recall a really good movie sequel and can't really come up with one. I guess the second and third Naked Gun films were alright (though I have much fonder memories of the first one). It looks like 22 Jump Street might be the exception that proves the rule. :fc: on that one.

What are your thoughts on comedy sequels? Can you think of any that were as good or better than the original? (Live action only. I know Pixar and Dreamworks have made some great animated sequels, but that's kind of a different type of movie).

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I enjoyed the Austin Powers sequels.

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Christmas Vacation. A lot of people consider it to be the best of the Vacation films.

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I thought the Naked Gun series was consistently funny (though the first was the best).

I'll also nominate the Pink Panther series for producing several funny sequels.

Abbott and Costello piled up the funny (if you want to consider those a "series")

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First one that came to mind for me was Fierce Creatures, but that falls into the same cast, different movie category.

Clerks 2 is interesting and not mentioned. Funny but had no chance of being as iconic as the original which was a landmark film for GenX.

Great example.

Oh, and the obvious winner (spoilerized for that duh moment)....

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Part 1 was a parody of James Bond.

Parts 2 & 3 were parodies of Part 1.

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Well, animated movies were specifically excluded by the original poster. Which I kind of agree with, since I don't think they're straight up comedies.

I guess Get Him to the Greek isn't really a sequel and more of a spinoff, as I thought that movie was pretty funny. I can't think of many comedy sequels that were decent though.

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:doh: Missed the last sentence, obviously.

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Leonard Part 6 was easily the weakest of that series.

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It is difficult for comedies to top the original, but that doesn't mean there aren't worthy comedy sequels. The two that immediately come to my mind are two that were already mentioned, that being The Naked Gun Trilogy and the Vacation films.

I'd also argue the Back to the Future Trilogy, Bill & Ted's Bogus Journey, and even the Police Academy sequels (although the first is obviously the best).

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Comedy sequels always suck because they try to recycle the same jokes with different situations. The sequels usually have a few funny moments in them, but they never past the test of time when you watch them years later.

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They're by no means 'great' comedies, but both the Brady Bunch and Addams Family sequels are better/funnier than the originals.

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I agree, both Addams Family Values and A Very Brady Sequel were better than the original movies. I also really liked Wayne's World 2 until the finale.

22 Jump Street seems to use the same framing device and plot of 21 Jump Street with better jokes. I'm alright with that (it has a 98% right now on rottentomatoes with 40 reviews), Naked Gun sort of did something similar. And while it fits the "it goes bigger", I will always have a soft spot for Gremlins II.

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Addams Family and Brady Bunch both take the run time of the original movie to establish these actors in those familiar roles. There really isn't much time for plot or much in the way of jokes - it's more about reminding you who the character are in this world. That's why the sequel work - they're free to explore plots and stories (much like how Superman 2 and Spider-Man 2 were better films than their predecessors because they were freed from their familiar origin stories).

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They're not doomed to fail, it's just that most do because the studios treat them like an ATM.
Give the audience more of the same and we'll have a great opening weekend." I'd say the sequels where the original creators are involved and allowed to do what they think is best are more likely to be worth anything.

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I disagree with any assessment that the Austin Powers or Naked Gun sequels were remotely worthwhile, but that's why comedy is subjective. The first movies were hilarious. The sequels, not so much. Same with Vacation for that matter. Never got the love for Christmas Vacation, thought it was putrid but given the love for that one it seems I'm in the minority there :shrug:

Would agree with Brady Bunch though (but not Addams Family). But few comedy sequels are any good, and almost all of them are completely unnecessary.

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The American Pie sequels were pretty good.

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I like Gremlins 2, but I don't even really think of the original as a comedy. Sure, it has comedic elements, but the tone is way more serious. The second one dropped any pretense of trying to be scary and just hammed it up.

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The Hope and Crosby "Road to" movies did very well and the 3rd and 4th (Morocco, Utopia), were the funniest.

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You are not alone.

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That's wrong. If studios really did treat movies like ass to mouth, they would be some of the best and biggest movies ever. They never give the audience what they want.

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That's actually a good one, I really liked the American Pie sequels; something was off about Wedding, but 2 and Reunion were pretty good.

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I'll go with you on American Pie 2. Wedding was putrid though. Still haven't caught reunion.

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The first two Cheech & Chong sequels (Next Movie and Nice Dreams) were about up to par with Up in Smoke.

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Is the track record for comedy sequels any worse than the track record for any type of sequel? Most sequels will be crap, just like most adaptations will be crap, just like most original movies will be crap. It's just hard to make a quality film, period.

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Oh there are FAR more misses in comedy sequels than in action films. Think of movies like Aliens, Godfather Part 2, The Empire Strikes Back, Return of the King, The Color of Money, Terminator 2 Judgement Day,, Star Trek 2 The Wrath of Kahn and The Avengers. Here we're throwing out titles like American Pie 2, A Very Brady Sequel and The Spy Who Shagged Me as the best examples we could come up with.

90% of everything is crap?

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I think a lot of the fans of CV were kids that grew up with it being played every year, and are too young to really remember the original, if they've even seen it at all.

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I don't really mind the Naked Gun Sequels, they have less sigh gags and puns, but I don't mind them.

Austin Powers...not so much. The first movie is fantastic. I love it so much, I have it with my James Bond movies.

Austin Powers 2 disgusted me to the point I wanted to punch Mike Meyers in the face for making it. I've seen the opening of "Goldmember", I thought the Austin Powers movie that was just like a serious James Bond movie was smart, but I didn't want to see any more than that.

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Christmas Vacation is the best comedy sequel of all time. :)

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Agreed, we're having a hell of a lot harder time coming up with good comedy sequels versus anything else.

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I enjoyed Ace Ventura 2 a lot more than the first one.

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Naked Gun trilogy is pretty solid, sure one might be weaker than the other but it's still inline with itself.

Austin Powers yes 2 and 3 were parodies of 1 … sucked completely.

Pink Panther original franchise was solidly intact tho.

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I've said it before and I'll say it again, while Ghostbusters 2 is almost a carbon copy of the original, I believe its both the scarier and funnier of the two films.

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Hot Shots Part Deux
The Father of the Bride Part 2
Army of Darkness
A Shot In The Dark.
Waynes World 2
Bill & Ted's Bogus Journey

all almost as good, just as good or better than their previous installments.

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I usually don't like the first comedy in a series enough to go see the sequels, although HOME ALONE, WAYNE'S WORLD and ADDAMS FAMILY were exceptions, chiefly because my daughter wanted to see the sequels. I took her to see PROBLEM CHILD 2 but not to PROBLEM CHILD (she may have seen that with her mom or rented it or something).

I went to see ANIMAL HOUSE on the big screen in 1978 and have yet to see any other National Lampoon movies.

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National Lampoon is just a title that they throw in front of stuff. The movies don't have anything to do with each other, except ones that are a series, like the Vacation movies. None of them are sequels to Animal House though.

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American Reunion was way better than American Wedding... holy shit was that movie horrible...

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But American Wedding gave us one of the greatest dance offs every put on film.