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Why So Blu? 02-15-14 08:48 PM

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Whip It was also pretty good. I have the Blu-ray and Derby Dolls skating is really popular out here. They fuck each other up!

Count Dooku 02-15-14 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperJim88 (Post 12013438)
To normalize means you literally treat whatever you are the same way you would with everything else. Why deny or lie by omission when people ask about it in the first place? Sure it probably isn't any reporter's business but when they asked just answer yes, I'm gay. When you avoid the question or pretend something else, human nature is to keep asking or poke at whatever that's you're hiding. Hence making it bigger deal than it really is. Take your partner out to events, take them out to dinners. The social environment we have today is already open enough that there is no need to hide. You perpetuate the idea that it's a big deal if you keep building the suspense time and time again until you need a big announcement later on. Fuck, more that half of the states in this country is recognizing gay marriages. She's no longer doing the LGBT community a favor at this point. She's perpetuating that it's still not a social norm to be gay.

As of February 2014, seventeen US states, as well as the District of Columbia, have legalized same-sex marriage. Oregon recognizes same-sex marriages performed in other jurisdictions.

First, your math skills obviously suck.

Second, if the society you live in is having heated arguments about whether or not homosexuals should have the right to marry, then homosexuality is not normalized (according to your own fucking definition!!).

Hazel Motes 02-15-14 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperJim88 (Post 12013438)
To normalize means you literally treat whatever you are the same way you would with everything else. Why deny or lie by omission when people ask about it in the first place? Sure it probably isn't any reporter's business but when they asked just answer yes, I'm gay. When you avoid the question or pretend something else, human nature is to keep asking or poke at whatever that's you're hiding. Hence making it bigger deal than it really is. Take your partner out to events, take them out to dinners. The social environment we have today is already open enough that there is no need to hide. You perpetuate the idea that it's a big deal if you keep building the suspense time and time again until you need a big announcement later on. Fuck, more that half of the states in this country is recognizing gay marriages. She's no longer doing the LGBT community a favor at this point. She's perpetuating that it's still not a social norm to be gay.

you're full of shit dude.

Coral 02-15-14 10:26 PM

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Shocking! Next thing you know we'll find out that John Travolta is gay.

JumpCutz 02-15-14 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Coral (Post 12013821)
Shocking! Next thng you know we'll find out that John Travolta, Tom Cruise, Kevin Spacey, Vin Diesel and Hugh Jackman are gay.

Fixed that for you. -wink-

Solid Snake 02-15-14 10:52 PM

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The problem with that is who cares about John Travolta anymore? I guess the 40+ age female demographic maybe?

I'm assuming the Jackman comment is in jest? Guy seems like a straight guy from what I've seen. I'd love to see him do an action movie that isn't as Logan. He does it damn well though.

Giles 02-15-14 10:55 PM

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it's pretty well known that Kevin Spacey is a closeted queen.

Ranger 02-15-14 11:25 PM

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Well, I'm surprised. Good for her. I've only seen her in X3 and Juno.

inri222 02-15-14 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Coral (Post 12013821)
Shocking! Next thing you know we'll find out that John Travolta is gay.

http://www.cineoutsider.com/reviews/...repomn_br2.jpg

Or John Wayne.

DaveyJoe 02-15-14 11:28 PM

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I thought Kevin Spacey came out? Maybe it's just that obvious. And c'mon, Hugh Jackman is the king(queen) of musical theater..

duff beer 02-16-14 01:05 AM

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^^that rob shneider?? What movie is that?

Hazel Motes 02-16-14 01:06 AM

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the guy in the wife beater looks like an overweight Bob Odenkirk.

Perkinsun Dzees 02-16-14 01:20 AM

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Ellen Page's career as a major lead actress is pretty much over. Not because she's gay, but because she still looks and sounds like a 16-year-old teenager and will probably look and sound that way well into her 40s. She's afflicted with what is known in the business as "Ralphmacchio-itis".

However she can still have a long career playing quirky supporting roles and as the lead character's gay best friend.

Michael Corvin 02-16-14 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Perkinsun Dzees (Post 12013910)
Ellen Page's career as a major lead actress is pretty much over. Not because she's gay, but because she still looks and sounds like a 16-year-old teenager and will probably look and sound that way well into her 40s.

Linda Cardellini has the same "problem(?)" and she does just fine.

Why So Blu? 02-16-14 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Solid Snake (Post 12013843)
The problem with that is who cares about John Travolta anymore? I guess the 40+ age female demographic maybe?

I'm assuming the Jackman comment is in jest? Guy seems like a straight guy from what I've seen. I'd love to see him do an action movie that isn't as Logan. He does it damn well though.

People fuck with Jackman cuz dude does musicals, theater, and hosts Toni Award shows.

Why So Blu? 02-16-14 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Giles (Post 12013846)
it's pretty well known that Kevin Spacey is a closeted queen.

Is it? Link that shit.

Perkinsun Dzees 02-16-14 03:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Michael Corvin (Post 12013918)
Linda Cardellini has the same "problem(?)" and she does just fine.

Linda Cardellini has never been a major lead actress in Hollywood movies. Even in the Scooby Doo flicks she was part of an ensemble cast.

Winona Ryder is another major actress whose career hit a sinkhole because she never really "aged" enough to make a successful transition to lead adult roles (plus the shoplifting). It's only been in recent years that she's actually started to look mature enough to play "mom" roles (and even then she was barely believable as Spock's mom).

However, I will say that Natalie Portman has managed to overcome her petite size and youthful look to still be a major star into her 30s, but she is way more beautiful in a Hollywood glamor type way than Ellen Page.

Solid Snake 02-16-14 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Perkinsun Dzees (Post 12013910)
Ellen Page's career as a major lead actress is pretty much over. Not because she's gay, but because she still looks and sounds like a 16-year-old teenager and will probably look and sound that way well into her 40s. She's afflicted with what is known in the business as "Ralphmacchio-itis".

However she can still have a long career playing quirky supporting roles and as the lead character's gay best friend.

RM has never been as good of an actor compared to EP.

Timber 02-16-14 05:39 AM

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I thought she already came out a few years ago?

JumpCutz 02-16-14 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Why So Blu? (Post 12013934)
People fuck with Jackman cuz dude does musicals, theater, and hosts Toni Award shows.

There's a little more to it than that actually. Google John Palermo and his longtime "business partnership" with Hugh. Also you might want to look a little closer at HJ's Marriage to Deborah Furness. My understanding is that it's a not so hidden secret in the business that there's perhaps some bearding going on in that relationship. They have adopted two children.

Either way, rumors have been circulating a long time, and Hugh is supposedly a very sweet man, a true professional, very nice to everyone, and is quite the multi talented performer... so people don't like to dig too deep.

There's a lot of other stuff out there too in regards to Hugh's proclivities its just how far you want to dig. Make of it what you will :shrug:

Solid Snake 02-16-14 06:15 AM

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They did In Vitro but Had two miscarrages out of it. Seems like they couldn't make one normally? But I'm iffy on those details. I'm not patient enough to dig into it.

Gay or not. He is awesome. I wish him nothing but continued success in being awesome. I'd like to see him work with Aronofsky again. So close to a 2nd flick with them.

Josh-da-man 02-16-14 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by inri222 (Post 12013871)

I could totally see John Wayne being gay. He just sort of gives off a gay vibe sometimes...

Mr. Salty 02-16-14 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Why So Blu? (Post 12013935)
Is it? Link that shit.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/1..._n_797575.html

TomOpus 02-16-14 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Salty (Post 12014108)


Still, Spacey possibly alludes to the
answer, saying, "Look, at the end of the
day people have to respect people's
differences. I am different than some
people would like me to be."
The problem is to know which group he meant by "some people": people that think he's gay and people that don't think he's gay. Without clarification we can only continue guessing.

There's always the thought that when someone sidesteps the question, they don't want the truth out just yet.

dugan 02-16-14 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Solid Snake (Post 12013843)
I'm assuming the Jackman comment is in jest? Guy seems like a straight guy from what I've seen. I'd love to see him do an action movie that isn't as Logan. He does it damn well though.

He's done two. Swordfish and Van Helsing. Both were awful.


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