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Old 04-27-15 | 01:18 PM
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Re: Ex Machina -- D: Garland S: Isaac, Vikander -- 2014

I really enjoyed the movie but have one question:

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How did she get the helicopter to show up and take her away?
Old 04-27-15 | 01:46 PM
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She didn't. Think about it. The movie mentions about the timeframe for things coming and going.
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She didn't. Think about it. The movie mentions about the timeframe for things coming and going.
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But still wonder what she said to the pilot to get him to take her up.
Old 04-27-15 | 02:19 PM
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Re: Ex Machina -- D: Garland S: Isaac, Vikander -- 2014

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But still wonder what she said to the pilot to get him to take her up.
She said:

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I'll suck your dick
Old 04-27-15 | 02:23 PM
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The way Oscar Isaac's character played it. I'm guessing that the lack of information or update for something like that, isn't a stretch.
Old 04-27-15 | 02:57 PM
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I'm sure a chick that looks like that didn't have to say much. And she had already proved to be pretty good at manipulating people.
Old 05-02-15 | 05:59 AM
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Saw this movie last night. Maybe I'm just old and cranky, but it didn't really impress me. I thought the plot was pretty predictable and was also struck by the over-the-top misogyny of the whole thing. But it looked nice and the performances were solid.
Old 05-02-15 | 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by wendersfan
Saw this movie last night. Maybe I'm just old and cranky, but it didn't really impress me. I thought the plot was pretty predictable and was also struck by the over-the-top misogyny of the whole thing. But it looked nice and the performances were solid.
Are you referring to the misogyny shown by the characters? Or do you think that the film's ultimate message was misogynistic? If the former, then I think that was sort of the point. If the latter, then I can't say I agree.
Old 05-02-15 | 07:42 AM
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Are you referring to the misogyny shown by the characters? Or do you think that the film's ultimate message was misogynistic?
I haven't been able to unpack that yet. Certainly the characters displayed it, but I'm unsure if I think that means it was represented in the film's overall theme.
Old 05-02-15 | 04:21 PM
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I felt like the overall misogynistic theme was intentional and an indictment of the current tech industry.
Old 05-07-15 | 12:51 AM
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I really liked this. The only 2 candidates I have for best film of 2015 so far are Ex Machina and A Most Violent Year. Both of which star Oscar Isaac. Hopefully I'll be able to include that other film of his coming out later this year on the list as well.
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A most Violent year came out in 2014....on 12/31 for a regular release type of thing. Though it wasn't released it some locations like where I am till like 2 months after. Technically it's a 2014 but... *shrugs shoulders*
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Originally Posted by Solid Snake
A most Violent year came out in 2014....on 12/31 for a regular release type of thing. Though it wasn't released it some locations like where I am till like 2 months after. Technically it's a 2014 but... *shrugs shoulders*
AMVY was 2014 the same way American Sniper was. 2014 for awards purposes, 2015 general release, so you're correct that it's a 2014 flick.
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Re: Ex Machina -- D: Garland S: Isaac, Vikander -- 2014

Just got back from Ex Machina; I really liked it. The pacing was slower but the twists good and message seemed insightful.

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It was brilliant to have one subservient robot and one rebellious one
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Originally Posted by Solid Snake
A most Violent year came out in 2014....on 12/31 for a regular release type of thing. Though it wasn't released it some locations like where I am till like 2 months after. Technically it's a 2014 but... *shrugs shoulders*
I know it was technically 2014. I used to be like you though. For 2012 or 2013 best films of the year thread I took a bunch of people to task for adding films from the wrong year. But then I realized if I see a great movie but its BARELY not the right year, I don't want to exclude it based on a technicality. I couldn't add it in 2014 and even though it got a festival release in 2014 I'm gonna add it to my 2015 list, because a film that good deserves to be mentioned as opposed to being stuck in "what year it really came out in" limbo.
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I thought it was above average, but it's not some sci-fi masterpiece. I liked the pacing, but was a bit letdown by the finale. Maybe I was expecting more. Isaac was terrific. I think he's a potential star, similar to Bradley Cooper and Chris Pratt. I think Garland is definitely a director to watch for. Looks like "Annihilation" is his next film.

I did have a couple of questions:
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What was the purpose of Caleb cutting his arm? Was he showing the Asian bot that he's human? Also, and this is minor, but couldn't Ava figure out how to fly the helicopter? Couldn't she download or search how to fly? She's an advanced robot and had to convince the pilot to take her with him.
Old 05-10-15 | 04:46 PM
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Re: Ex Machina -- D: Garland S: Isaac, Vikander -- 2014

I haven't seen the movie yet, but Alex Garland isn't great with endings (at least the ones he's written), but as long as it doesn't go off the rails, all good.
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I don't know what this movie is about except that it involves scientists and creating an android but it looks good so I will check it out.
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Re: Ex Machina -- D: Garland S: Isaac, Vikander -- 2014

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I thought it was above average, but it's not some sci-fi masterpiece. I liked the pacing, but was a bit letdown by the finale. Maybe I was expecting more. Isaac was terrific. I think he's a potential star, similar to Bradley Cooper and Chris Pratt. I think Garland is definitely a director to watch for. Looks like "Annihilation" is his next film.

I did have a couple of questions:
Spoiler:
What was the purpose of Caleb cutting his arm? Was he showing the Asian bot that he's human? Also, and this is minor, but couldn't Ava figure out how to fly the helicopter? Couldn't she download or search how to fly? She's an advanced robot and had to convince the pilot to take her with him.
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He was starting to question if he was human. It's been like 3 weeks but I don't think she works like that. I could be wrong, it has been a while. Even if she could download the abilities. The pilot knows that he has to be there. He knows jack about the location's details. So a girl coming to him for him to pick up, especially with all the secrecy involved, isn't far fetched for him to just accept to take her out. She just has to tell him that instead of the guy... she is being picked up.
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Re: Ex Machina -- D: Garland S: Isaac, Vikander -- 2014

Originally Posted by Solid Snake
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He was starting to question if he was human. It's been like 3 weeks but I don't think she works like that. I could be wrong, it has been a while. Even if she could download the abilities. The pilot knows that he has to be there. He knows jack about the location's details. So a girl coming to him for him to pick up, especially with all the secrecy involved, isn't far fetched for him to just accept to take her out. She just has to tell him that instead of the guy... she is being picked up.
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Caleb was definitely questioning whether he was AI/the actual subject of the Turin Test. I began suspecting he might be, early on, as I read there was a twist ending. The movie also foreshadowed this possibility with his back story about his parents dying when he was young and spending a lot of time in a hospital. I figured that was possibly when he was brought "on-line".
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Re: Ex Machina -- D: Garland S: Isaac, Vikander -- 2014

I'm glad it didn't go that way. I've seen enough of that happen in movies. Rocshemp saw that kind of nature to it via the trailer but I never saw it.
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Blu-Ray dropping on July 14.
Old 05-11-15 | 07:51 PM
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I think A24 was hoping for a bigger boost this past weekend with the expansion.

This played out like a long, higher budget episode of Black Mirror, and while a tad slow was really enjoyable. Props for them working in logical tasteful nudity.

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Re: Ex Machina -- D: Garland S: Isaac, Vikander -- 2014

Saw it last night and thought it was great. I'm not sure if it'll make my own top 10, but it was thought-provoking and kept me guessing. I honestly expected
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Nathan to be an android, and kept waiting for the reveal,

so that might have affected my experience with the film.

Originally Posted by PopcornTreeCt
I felt like the overall misogynistic theme was intentional and an indictment of the current tech industry.
Yeah, that's kind of what I took away from it as well. I felt like the character of Nathan was responsible, and subtly criticized for that.

Originally Posted by Chadm
I know it was technically 2014. I used to be like you though. For 2012 or 2013 best films of the year thread I took a bunch of people to task for adding films from the wrong year. But then I realized if I see a great movie but its BARELY not the right year, I don't want to exclude it based on a technicality. I couldn't add it in 2014 and even though it got a festival release in 2014 I'm gonna add it to my 2015 list, because a film that good deserves to be mentioned as opposed to being stuck in "what year it really came out in" limbo.
I agree. It's a bit complex, and kind of depends on the person's own chances of seeing it within the "original" release year or when it gets a "wider" release.
For me, if it's a new film and I see it at my local film festival, I consider it a release for the year in which I saw it. If it gets a wide release the following year, I don't hold it against anyone for adding it to that year's year-end list, either.
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Re: Ex Machina -- D: Garland S: Isaac, Vikander -- 2014

I saw this a couple of days ago. I enjoyed it, though I think reviews may be overrating this a bit. While well done, the story wasn't anything new. There were teases of plot wrinkles, but in the end the most surprising thing was the lack of surprises. Though maybe I've just seen too many of these kinds of movies

I did really like how the isolated environment helped create this atmosphere of growing tension and menace. I wonder how many of the audience were disappointed since the trailers suggested a killer-robot thriller, while most the movie was dialog.

One thing that maybe I missed ... did Nathan have any other staff besides Kyoko? If so, where were they hiding? If not, who kept that huge place clean? I know, it's just a movie ... but when a movie invites you to think about things, these are some of the things that come to mind

There seems to be a spate of these "AI developing consciousness" movies in the last couple of years. "Her", "Chappie", "Avengers: Age of Ultron". I saw a few other good ones very recently on Netflix: "Automata" (with Antonio Banderos), "Eva" and "The Machine". The last two in particular seemed very close to the ideas and story of "Ex Machina". And I thought it interesting how each went for a different tone and ultimate direction from essentially the same setup. "Eva" went for touching melodrama while "The Machine" becomes the kind of thriller that the trailers "Ex Machina" deceptively suggest (but with a cool retro 80's style).


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